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Which Party do you intend to vote for in the 2024 England and Technically Wales Local Elections?

Labour
7
30%
Conservative
1
4%
Liberal Democrats
2
9%
Green Party (England and Wales)
3
13%
Reform UK
1
4%
Plaid Cymru (In Four Police Commissioner Elections only)
0
No votes
Independent / Others / Regional Party (Please say in Comments)
1
4%
Not Voting / Not Eligible to Vote
8
35%
 
Total votes : 23

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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:03 am

At this point I wonder if Sunak regrets not calling an election sooner. The loss of two more ministers and the awful choice of having to pick Gullis as deputy head (in order to appeal to the right I suppose) pushes him further adrift in a sea of empty policy. Is he waiting for some great event to suddenly sway public opinion?
Quite looking forward to seeing an end to the dithering of both he and Yousaf and their respective parties being ousted from power. We need out of this endless political mire, or at very least a change of wind to bring fresh perspective.
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Postby Philjia » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:24 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:At this point I wonder if Sunak regrets not calling an election sooner. The loss of two more ministers and the awful choice of having to pick Gullis as deputy head (in order to appeal to the right I suppose) pushes him further adrift in a sea of empty policy. Is he waiting for some great event to suddenly sway public opinion?
Quite looking forward to seeing an end to the dithering of both he and Yousaf and their respective parties being ousted from power. We need out of this endless political mire, or at very least a change of wind to bring fresh perspective.

It would seem to be rather more prudent for the Prime Minister to accept that he's doomed rather than delay and open up the possibility of being turbodoomed with knobs on.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:31 am

Private Eye today points out that none of Sunak, Yousaf or Gething were put into their jobs by the respective electorates.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:01 am

Philjia wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:At this point I wonder if Sunak regrets not calling an election sooner. The loss of two more ministers and the awful choice of having to pick Gullis as deputy head (in order to appeal to the right I suppose) pushes him further adrift in a sea of empty policy. Is he waiting for some great event to suddenly sway public opinion?
Quite looking forward to seeing an end to the dithering of both he and Yousaf and their respective parties being ousted from power. We need out of this endless political mire, or at very least a change of wind to bring fresh perspective.

It would seem to be rather more prudent for the Prime Minister to accept that he's doomed rather than delay and open up the possibility of being turbodoomed with knobs on.

I want to believe that they know how badly they are viewed by the country, but that then suggests they are dragging this out further and causing additional misery from their own ineptitude on purpose....
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:03 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I have to wonder who will be the shadow cabinet after the next general election. Will there be any names we recognise?

Members of the current government and their seat prospects, based largely on Electoral Calculus and to a lesser extent electionmaps.uk.
=PM and Cabinet Office=
Sunak: hold
Oliver Dowden, Deputy PM: hold
John Glen, Cabinet Office: Lab gain
Richard Holden, Chairman of the Party: seat abolished, unclear what he's going to do given he's refused to stand in any of the four constituencies his seat is being split into.
Johnny Mercer, Veterens Affairs Minister: Lab gain
Esther McVey, Minister without Portfolio: Lab gain
Nus Ghani, Minister for Investment Security Unity/Industry and Economic Security: Likely Hold
Alex Burghart: Parliamentary Secretary for Cab Office: Hold

=Business and Trade=
Kemi Badenoch, Secretary of State: Likely hold
Greg Hands, Trade Policy: Lab Gain
Kevin Hollinrake, Enterprise, Markets and Small Business: Hold

=Defence=
Grant Shapps, Secretary of State: Lab gain
James Heappey, Armed Forces: standing down at next election, likely Lib Dem Gain
James Cartlidge, Defence Procurement: Likely Lab Gain
Andrew Murrison, Defence People and Families: Likely Lab Gain

=Culture, Media and Sport=
Lucy Frazer, Secretary of State: Toss-up between Con and Lib Dems with Lab close behding (35, 35, 30)
Julia Lopez, Media, Tourism and Creative Industries, also Minister of State for Data and Digital Infrastructure: Hold

=Education=
Gillian Keegan, Secretary of State: Lab Gain
Robert Halfon, Skills, Apprenticeships and Higher Education: standing down at next election, likely Lab gain
Damian Hinds, Schools: Hold
David Johnston, Children, Families and Wellbeing: Likely Lab gain

=Energy Security and New Zero=
Claire Coutinho, Secretary of State: Likely Lab gain
Graham Stuart, Minister of State: Lab gain
Andrew Bowie, Nuclear and Networks: Likely hold (in Scotland?? Really??)
Amanda Solloway, Energy Consumers and Affordability: Lab gain

=Environment, Food and Rural Affairs=
Steve Barclay, Secretary of State: Hold
Mark Spencer, Food, Farming and Fisheries: Lab gain
Robbie Moore, Water and Rural Growth: Lab gain
Rebecco Pow, Nature: Lib Dem gain

=Equalities=
Maria Caulfield, Women, also Mental Health and Women's Health Strategy: Tossup, leans Lib Dem
Stuart Andrew, Equalities, also Sport, Gambling and Civil Society: Seat abolished, not standing in new one in same area, which will go Labour

=Foreign, Commonwealth and Development=
Andrew Mitchell, Development and Africa: Likely Lab
Anne-Marie Trevelyan, Indo-Pacific: Lab gain
David Rutley, Americas and Caribbean and Overseas Territories: Lab gain
Leo Docherty, Europe: Lab gain

=Health and Social Care=
Victoria Atkins, Secretary of State: Hold
Helen Whately, Social Care: Likely hold
Andrew Stephenson, Health and Secondary Care: Lab gain
Andrea Leadsom, Public Health, Start for Life and Primary Care: Hold

=Home=
James Cleverly, Secretary of State: Hold
Tom Tugendhat, Security: Hold
Michael Tomlinson, Illegal Migration: Lib Dem gain
Tom Pursglove, Legal Migration and Delivery: Lab gain
Chris Philp, Crime, Policing and Fire: Lab gain
Laura Farris, Victims and Safeguarding: Lean Lib Dem gain

=Justice=
Alex Chalk, Secretary of State: Lib Dem gain
Edward Argar, Prisons, Parole and Probation: seat being abolished, plans to stand in new seat of Melton and Syston rather than Mid Leicestershire where most of his current seat of Charnwood will be absorbed into. Both seats are likely Lab gains.
Mike Freer, Courts and Legal Services: standing down at the next election following campaign of harrassment by Islamists which culminated in an arson attack on his constituency office in December 2023. Lab likely gain his former seat.
Gareth Bacon, Sentencing: Tossup Lab Con

=Levelling Up, Housing and Communities=
Michael Gove, Secretary of State: Hold
Lee Rowley, Housing, Planning and Building Safety: Lab gain
Jacob Young, Levelling Up: Lab gain
Felicity Buchan, Housing and Homelessness: seat being abolished but running in new seat of Kensington and Bayswater which is much the same - Lab gain
Simon Hoare, Local Government: Hold

=Northern Ireland=
Chris Heaton-Harris, Secretary of State: Likely hold
Steve Baker, Minister of State for NI and also Cabinet Office Minister: Lab Gain

=Science, Innovation and Technology=
Michelle Donelan, Secretary of State: currently Chippenham, standing in new seat of Melksham and Devizes. Chippenham is Lib Dem gain, Melksham is likely Con win
Andrew Griffith, Science, Research and Innovation: Likely hold
Saqib Bhatti, Tech and the Digital Economy: Current seat being renamed from Meriden to Meriden and Solihull East to reflect new boundaries. Toss-up.

=Scotland=
Alister Jack, Secretary of State: standing down at next election, seat leans Con with SNP and Lab close behind
John Lamont, Under-Secretary of State: Hold

=Transport=
Mark Harper, Secretary of State: Lab gain
Huw Merriman, Rail and HS2: Hold
Guy Opperman, Roads and Local Transport: Lab gain
Anthony Browne, Decarbonisation and Technology: moving to new seat of St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire from South Cambridgeshire. St Neots is Lab gain, South Cambridgeshire is Lib Dem gain.

=Treasury=
Jeremy Hunt, Chancellor: Current seat being abolished, split into Farnham and Bordon and Godalming and Ash. Hunt is standing in the latter seat. Godalming is likely Con hold, Farnham is Con hold.
Laura Trott, Chief Secretary: Likely hold
Nigel Huggleston, Financial Secretary: seat being renamed to Droitwich and Evesham, Con hold
Bim Afolami, Economic Secretary: standing in new seat of Hitchin after current seat abolished, Lab gain
Gareth Davies, Exchequer Secretary: Hold in renamed seat of Grantham and Bourne

=Wales=
David TC Davies, Secretary of State: Standing in new seat of Monmouthshire after current seat is being split into that and Torfaen. Both seats are Lab gain
Fay Jones, Under-Secretary of State: Hold

=Work and Pensions=
Mel Stride, Secretary of State: Lab gain
Jo Churchill, Employment: Boundary changes mean his seat will be renamed Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket, likely Lab gain
Mims Davies, Disabled People, Health and Work: Changing seat from Mid Sussex to East Grinstead and Uckfield, both seats are likely Con
Paul Maynard, Pensions: Lab gain

=Attorney General's Office=
Victoria Prentis, Attorney General: Lab gain
Robert Courts, Solicitor General: Hold

=House Leader and Whips=
Penny Mordaunt, House Leader: Lab gain
Simon Hart, Chief Whip: Seat is being abolished. Standing in new seat of Caerfyrddin one of two made from his seat. The other is Mid and South Pembrokeshire. Caerfyrddin (mistakenly known as Carmarthen on certain websites) is Plaid gain, the other is Lab gain.
Marcus Jones, Deputy Chief Whip: Lab gain
Rebecca Harris, Senior Whip: Hold
Stuart Anderson, Senior Whip: Changing seat from Wolverhampton South West (which is being renamed to Wolverhampton West) to Shropshire South. Shropeshire South is hold, Wolverhampton West is Lab gain.
Scott Mann, Home Office and DoJ Whip: Lib Dem gain
Amanda Milling, Whip: Tossup between Con and Lab
Joy Morrissey, Whip: Hold
Mike Wood, Whip: Seat being abolished, moving to new seat of Kingswinford and South Staffordshire, which is Con hold.
Robert Largant, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
Ruth Edwards, Assistant Whip: the seat Kenneth Clarke held for almost 50 years for the Tories is a LAB GAIN.
Gagan Mohindra, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
Aaron Bell, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
Mark Fletcher, Assistant Whip: Dennis Skinner's old seat is a Lab gain
Mark Jenkinson, Assistant Whip: Seat is being abolished, he's standing in new seat of Penrith and Solway which is a Lab gain. The majority of the his old seat is becoming Whitehaven and Workington, which is also a Lab gain. (Have that, you transphobic berk)
Suzanne Webb, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:27 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:At this point I wonder if Sunak regrets not calling an election sooner. The loss of two more ministers and the awful choice of having to pick Gullis as deputy head (in order to appeal to the right I suppose) pushes him further adrift in a sea of empty policy.


Picking Gullis is almost certainly also a move to stop the Stoke North MP defecting to Reform. Appointing a hard-right populist as deputy chair obviously worked brilliantly with Lee Anderson, so let's see how this goes.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:44 am

Philjia wrote:The Speaker of the House decides.
Ministers of the Crown Act 1937 wrote:If any doubt arises as to which is or was at any material time the party in opposition to His Majesty's Government having the greatest numerical strength in the House of Commons, or as to who is or was at any material time the leader in that House of such a party the question shall be decided for the purposes of this Act by the Speaker of the House of Commons, and his decision, certified in writing under his hand, shall be final and conclusive.



The potential for a constitutional clusterf*ck is immense there given the privileges in place for the official opposition compared to the third-place party; though I suppose the Speaker may have the opportunity for amending those privileges in this situation.

That said, the simple solution would seem to be for the Speaker to base their decision on the basis of which party had the higher percentage of the vote where two parties have an identical number of seats.

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:53 pm

I just feel certain that if the Conservatives and Lib Dems got the same number of seats, the Speaker would favour the Conservatives.
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Postby Atrito » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:55 pm

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I just feel certain that if the Conservatives and Lib Dems got the same number of seats, the Speaker would favour the Conservatives.

The Conservatives do have more Peers, so they would (theoretically) provide a better Official Opposition in the Lords.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:05 pm

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I just feel certain that if the Conservatives and Lib Dems got the same number of seats, the Speaker would favour the Conservatives.


Given how good the LibDems are at targetting, that would probably match Arch's popular vote recipe. A more interesting (although unlikely) case IMHO would be if the SNP (or another party which did not compete across the whole UK) were a candidate. Would their share where standing be used, or their UK-wide share?
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Postby Forsher » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:37 pm

Celritannia wrote:Rishi Sunak’s family firm Infosys set for millions of government money

The most corrupt UK Prime Minister is heading the most corrupt UK Government.


Bring back Boris. It's time to clean up Number 10.
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Postby Tillania » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:09 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:At this point I wonder if Sunak regrets not calling an election sooner. The loss of two more ministers and the awful choice of having to pick Gullis as deputy head (in order to appeal to the right I suppose) pushes him further adrift in a sea of empty policy. Is he waiting for some great event to suddenly sway public opinion?

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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:31 am

Forsher wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Rishi Sunak’s family firm Infosys set for millions of government money

The most corrupt UK Prime Minister is heading the most corrupt UK Government.


Bring back Boris. It's time to clean up Number 10.


He'd make a good charman.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:34 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Bring back Boris. It's time to clean up Number 10.


He'd make a good charman.


He'd make a good mop.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:36 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I just feel certain that if the Conservatives and Lib Dems got the same number of seats, the Speaker would favour the Conservatives.


Given how good the LibDems are at targetting, that would probably match Arch's popular vote recipe. A more interesting (although unlikely) case IMHO would be if the SNP (or another party which did not compete across the whole UK) were a candidate. Would their share where standing be used, or their UK-wide share?


Let's acknowledge that we're talking about a vanishingly unlikely scenario under which the SNP are tied with the Conservatives or LibDems for the second-largest number of seats post-election. In this case, I can't see how the Speaker would make the SNP the official opposition. Their vote share in Scotland is only relevant to how they position themselves as representing Scotland, not their vote share in the UK-wide Parliament; they can't claim to be a national opposition on the basis of their Scottish vote share.

If, however, the SNP were to win the second-highest number of seats in their own right, we would have the constitutional precedent of Canada following the 1993 Canadian General Election - and I would still urge thread participants to be familiar with the outcome of an election that saw Canada's Progressive Conservative Party go from holding a majority of seats in Ottawa to just two seats. I'm not arguing that we'll have an exact repeat in the UK, but there are obvious similarities, including an unelected PM who came to power via the resignation of her predecessor, an increasingly influential right-wing populist party called 'Reform' that chipped away at the vote of the traditional conservative party, and a strong nationalist region-specific pro-independence movement. The ruling party ended up coming dead last in seats won despite narrowly coming third behind Reform on vote share.

Anyway, that's a digression. The point I was trying to make was that the Bloc Quebecois ended up forming Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition in Ottawa because they won the second-highest number of seats solely on the back of their support in Quebec (though they won a higher national percentage of the vote than the SNP can ever hope to win because Quebec holds 22% of Canada's population, and though there are significant disparities between province population the overall population distribution across provinces is more evenly spread than across the four nations of the UK). So we do have a precedent within a Commonwealth nation using a Westminster system for a party that wants independence for its home region forming the official opposition.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:16 am

Solid inf, thanks Arch.

I'll look into the Canadian thing.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:52 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I have to wonder who will be the shadow cabinet after the next general election. Will there be any names we recognise?

Members of the current government and their seat prospects, based largely on Electoral Calculus and to a lesser extent electionmaps.uk.
=PM and Cabinet Office=
Sunak: hold
Oliver Dowden, Deputy PM: hold
John Glen, Cabinet Office: Lab gain
Richard Holden, Chairman of the Party: seat abolished, unclear what he's going to do given he's refused to stand in any of the four constituencies his seat is being split into.
Johnny Mercer, Veterens Affairs Minister: Lab gain
Esther McVey, Minister without Portfolio: Lab gain
Nus Ghani, Minister for Investment Security Unity/Industry and Economic Security: Likely Hold
Alex Burghart: Parliamentary Secretary for Cab Office: Hold

=Business and Trade=
Kemi Badenoch, Secretary of State: Likely hold
Greg Hands, Trade Policy: Lab Gain
Kevin Hollinrake, Enterprise, Markets and Small Business: Hold

=Defence=
Grant Shapps, Secretary of State: Lab gain
James Heappey, Armed Forces: standing down at next election, likely Lib Dem Gain
James Cartlidge, Defence Procurement: Likely Lab Gain
Andrew Murrison, Defence People and Families: Likely Lab Gain

=Culture, Media and Sport=
Lucy Frazer, Secretary of State: Toss-up between Con and Lib Dems with Lab close behding (35, 35, 30)
Julia Lopez, Media, Tourism and Creative Industries, also Minister of State for Data and Digital Infrastructure: Hold

=Education=
Gillian Keegan, Secretary of State: Lab Gain
Robert Halfon, Skills, Apprenticeships and Higher Education: standing down at next election, likely Lab gain
Damian Hinds, Schools: Hold
David Johnston, Children, Families and Wellbeing: Likely Lab gain

=Energy Security and New Zero=
Claire Coutinho, Secretary of State: Likely Lab gain
Graham Stuart, Minister of State: Lab gain
Andrew Bowie, Nuclear and Networks: Likely hold (in Scotland?? Really??)
Amanda Solloway, Energy Consumers and Affordability: Lab gain

=Environment, Food and Rural Affairs=
Steve Barclay, Secretary of State: Hold
Mark Spencer, Food, Farming and Fisheries: Lab gain
Robbie Moore, Water and Rural Growth: Lab gain
Rebecco Pow, Nature: Lib Dem gain

=Equalities=
Maria Caulfield, Women, also Mental Health and Women's Health Strategy: Tossup, leans Lib Dem
Stuart Andrew, Equalities, also Sport, Gambling and Civil Society: Seat abolished, not standing in new one in same area, which will go Labour

=Foreign, Commonwealth and Development=
Andrew Mitchell, Development and Africa: Likely Lab
Anne-Marie Trevelyan, Indo-Pacific: Lab gain
David Rutley, Americas and Caribbean and Overseas Territories: Lab gain
Leo Docherty, Europe: Lab gain

=Health and Social Care=
Victoria Atkins, Secretary of State: Hold
Helen Whately, Social Care: Likely hold
Andrew Stephenson, Health and Secondary Care: Lab gain
Andrea Leadsom, Public Health, Start for Life and Primary Care: Hold

=Home=
James Cleverly, Secretary of State: Hold
Tom Tugendhat, Security: Hold
Michael Tomlinson, Illegal Migration: Lib Dem gain
Tom Pursglove, Legal Migration and Delivery: Lab gain
Chris Philp, Crime, Policing and Fire: Lab gain
Laura Farris, Victims and Safeguarding: Lean Lib Dem gain

=Justice=
Alex Chalk, Secretary of State: Lib Dem gain
Edward Argar, Prisons, Parole and Probation: seat being abolished, plans to stand in new seat of Melton and Syston rather than Mid Leicestershire where most of his current seat of Charnwood will be absorbed into. Both seats are likely Lab gains.
Mike Freer, Courts and Legal Services: standing down at the next election following campaign of harrassment by Islamists which culminated in an arson attack on his constituency office in December 2023. Lab likely gain his former seat.
Gareth Bacon, Sentencing: Tossup Lab Con

=Levelling Up, Housing and Communities=
Michael Gove, Secretary of State: Hold
Lee Rowley, Housing, Planning and Building Safety: Lab gain
Jacob Young, Levelling Up: Lab gain
Felicity Buchan, Housing and Homelessness: seat being abolished but running in new seat of Kensington and Bayswater which is much the same - Lab gain
Simon Hoare, Local Government: Hold

=Northern Ireland=
Chris Heaton-Harris, Secretary of State: Likely hold
Steve Baker, Minister of State for NI and also Cabinet Office Minister: Lab Gain

=Science, Innovation and Technology=
Michelle Donelan, Secretary of State: currently Chippenham, standing in new seat of Melksham and Devizes. Chippenham is Lib Dem gain, Melksham is likely Con win
Andrew Griffith, Science, Research and Innovation: Likely hold
Saqib Bhatti, Tech and the Digital Economy: Current seat being renamed from Meriden to Meriden and Solihull East to reflect new boundaries. Toss-up.

=Scotland=
Alister Jack, Secretary of State: standing down at next election, seat leans Con with SNP and Lab close behind
John Lamont, Under-Secretary of State: Hold

=Transport=
Mark Harper, Secretary of State: Lab gain
Huw Merriman, Rail and HS2: Hold
Guy Opperman, Roads and Local Transport: Lab gain
Anthony Browne, Decarbonisation and Technology: moving to new seat of St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire from South Cambridgeshire. St Neots is Lab gain, South Cambridgeshire is Lib Dem gain.

=Treasury=
Jeremy Hunt, Chancellor: Current seat being abolished, split into Farnham and Bordon and Godalming and Ash. Hunt is standing in the latter seat. Godalming is likely Con hold, Farnham is Con hold.
Laura Trott, Chief Secretary: Likely hold
Nigel Huggleston, Financial Secretary: seat being renamed to Droitwich and Evesham, Con hold
Bim Afolami, Economic Secretary: standing in new seat of Hitchin after current seat abolished, Lab gain
Gareth Davies, Exchequer Secretary: Hold in renamed seat of Grantham and Bourne

=Wales=
David TC Davies, Secretary of State: Standing in new seat of Monmouthshire after current seat is being split into that and Torfaen. Both seats are Lab gain
Fay Jones, Under-Secretary of State: Hold

=Work and Pensions=
Mel Stride, Secretary of State: Lab gain
Jo Churchill, Employment: Boundary changes mean his seat will be renamed Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket, likely Lab gain
Mims Davies, Disabled People, Health and Work: Changing seat from Mid Sussex to East Grinstead and Uckfield, both seats are likely Con
Paul Maynard, Pensions: Lab gain

=Attorney General's Office=
Victoria Prentis, Attorney General: Lab gain
Robert Courts, Solicitor General: Hold

=House Leader and Whips=
Penny Mordaunt, House Leader: Lab gain
Simon Hart, Chief Whip: Seat is being abolished. Standing in new seat of Caerfyrddin one of two made from his seat. The other is Mid and South Pembrokeshire. Caerfyrddin (mistakenly known as Carmarthen on certain websites) is Plaid gain, the other is Lab gain.
Marcus Jones, Deputy Chief Whip: Lab gain
Rebecca Harris, Senior Whip: Hold
Stuart Anderson, Senior Whip: Changing seat from Wolverhampton South West (which is being renamed to Wolverhampton West) to Shropshire South. Shropeshire South is hold, Wolverhampton West is Lab gain.
Scott Mann, Home Office and DoJ Whip: Lib Dem gain
Amanda Milling, Whip: Tossup between Con and Lab
Joy Morrissey, Whip: Hold
Mike Wood, Whip: Seat being abolished, moving to new seat of Kingswinford and South Staffordshire, which is Con hold.
Robert Largant, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
Ruth Edwards, Assistant Whip: the seat Kenneth Clarke held for almost 50 years for the Tories is a LAB GAIN.
Gagan Mohindra, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
Aaron Bell, Assistant Whip: Lab gain
Mark Fletcher, Assistant Whip: Dennis Skinner's old seat is a Lab gain
Mark Jenkinson, Assistant Whip: Seat is being abolished, he's standing in new seat of Penrith and Solway which is a Lab gain. The majority of the his old seat is becoming Whitehaven and Workington, which is also a Lab gain. (Have that, you transphobic berk)
Suzanne Webb, Assistant Whip: Lab gain

Thanks for the list, very handy.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:23 am

Labour lead by 33% in Wales. Lowest Conservative vote % EVER in our Welsh polling. Wales Westminster VI (23-24 Mar):

LAB: 49% (+4)
CON: 16% (-6)
RFM:15% (+2)
PLAID: 10% (–)
LDEM: 5% (–)
GRN: 5% (–)
OTH: 1% (–)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton

Election Maps UK Seat model:

LAB: 29 (+11)
PLAID: 2 (=)
LDM: 1 (+1)
CON: 0 (-12)

Changes w/ GE2019 Notionals.

edit: Reform at 1% behind the Conservatives in Wales, hot diggity dog.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:27 am

Labour leads by 15% in constituency VI for a Senedd election. Senedd Constituency VI (23-24 Mar)

LAB: 36% (+2)
PLAID: 21% (+2)
CON: 21% (–)
RFM: 11% (-2)
ABL: 3% (-3)
LDEM: 3% (-1)
GRN: 3% (–)
OTH: 1% (+1)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton

Labour leads by 14% in regional list VI for a Senedd election. Senedd Regional VI (23-24 Mar):

LAB: 32% (+3)
PLAID: 18% (-7)
CON: 16% (–)
RFM: 11% (+1)
GRN: 9% (+5)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
ABL: 6% (-1)
OTH: 1% (–)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:23 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour leads by 15% in constituency VI for a Senedd election. Senedd Constituency VI (23-24 Mar)

LAB: 36% (+2)
PLAID: 21% (+2)
CON: 21% (–)
RFM: 11% (-2)
ABL: 3% (-3)
LDEM: 3% (-1)
GRN: 3% (–)
OTH: 1% (+1)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton

Labour leads by 14% in regional list VI for a Senedd election. Senedd Regional VI (23-24 Mar):

LAB: 32% (+3)
PLAID: 18% (-7)
CON: 16% (–)
RFM: 11% (+1)
GRN: 9% (+5)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
ABL: 6% (-1)
OTH: 1% (–)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton


Why poll the Welsh parliament when the next election isn’t for a few years?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Labour leads by 15% in constituency VI for a Senedd election. Senedd Constituency VI (23-24 Mar)

LAB: 36% (+2)
PLAID: 21% (+2)
CON: 21% (–)
RFM: 11% (-2)
ABL: 3% (-3)
LDEM: 3% (-1)
GRN: 3% (–)
OTH: 1% (+1)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton

Labour leads by 14% in regional list VI for a Senedd election. Senedd Regional VI (23-24 Mar):

LAB: 32% (+3)
PLAID: 18% (-7)
CON: 16% (–)
RFM: 11% (+1)
GRN: 9% (+5)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
ABL: 6% (-1)
OTH: 1% (–)

Changes +/- 18 Feb. @RedfieldWilton


Why poll the Welsh parliament when the next election isn’t for a few years?

Its good to do regular polls.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:52 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why poll the Welsh parliament when the next election isn’t for a few years?

Its good to do regular polls.

A good poll is its own reward.
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