Israel attacks Aid workers (Israel megathred)

[Caninope]

loving all the israel apologists

i always find it hilarious that the oh so persecuted race that is the jews make the most of their freedom by treating those peaky muslims like vermin.

israel needs to learn to count to 10 and realize that even though the UN fully supports the extermination of muslims you have to keep it on the down low (its political correctness gone mad!)

Many of the people on the ships weren't muslim.

yeah but the ship was going to aid muslims, that was its crime

No, it's crime was not going through the right hoops.

but me giving change to a tramp on the street is being charitable without going through the right hoops (i should really give that money to a charity for homeless people) does that mean i should be shot in the face?

The difference is that you didn't try to rush through a bunch of armed guards.

[Lelouche]

That was quick

and hillarious

[Upper North Yorkshire]

The Israelis checked for weapons BAM! The workers started a fight Israelis using selfdefence kil 10 to 20 ppl.

with a name like 'holland israel and us' i'm not surprised at the lack of objective argument!

[Thurask]

Israelis were cheking for weapons because the violent past from Gaza to Israel. Randomly people started attacking the soldiers and the defended thereselfs. If Gaza wasnt so G-D damn violent they wouldnt be suspicious!

While violating international law. Yet they have the balls to complain about the Holocaust pretty damn ironic if you ask me.

International Law? Where the hell was International Law when Iraq was gassing Kurds, or when North Korea was firing nuclear missiles into the ocean? International Law apparently only affects people who have a right to do so...

Oh and do we need to bring up Godwin's Law...

Godwin's Law should be used only in times of desperate need for a thread lock, given the immediate cessation of argument once it is called.

[Holland Israel and USA]

The Israelis checked for weapons BAM! The workers started a fight Israelis using selfdefence kil 10 to 20 ppl.

with a name like 'holland israel and us' i'm not surprised at the lack of objective argument!

I may have to admit i am a lil pro Israel but im not anti muslim or any arab country i have muslim friends

[Iyndolen]

loving all the israel apologists

i always find it hilarious that the oh so persecuted race that is the jews make the most of their freedom by treating those peaky muslims like vermin.

israel needs to learn to count to 10 and realize that even though the UN fully supports the extermination of muslims you have to keep it on the down low (its political correctness gone mad!)

Many of the people on the ships weren't muslim.

yeah but the ship was going to aid muslims, that was its crime

No, it's crime was not going through the right hoops.

The right hoops of an illegal blockade? Well that is a new one.

It might be illegal, but it's still there.

Like I was once told: "The boss isn't always right, but he's the boss."

Now work equals international law? I'll be damned I didn't think you could make this more asinine but you did.

I'm beast like that.

My point was that while might shouldn't necessarily make right, it seems to have done so in this case.

Way too early to call that. Israel is running out of its backing it has in the States and the International Community hasn't responded yet. Remember not to count your chickens till the eggs hatch.

As I said earlier nothing is going to happen to them, they still serve the western needs by existing there simply put:

The west doesn't Give a S***t about the middle east in terms of what Israel does, the middle east is to s***t pants of the west to do anything to Israel and the east cares even less though they cant' even get there so it doesn't matter. The status quo will continue simple as that.

[Lelouche]

loving all the israel apologists

i always find it hilarious that the oh so persecuted race that is the jews make the most of their freedom by treating those peaky muslims like vermin.

israel needs to learn to count to 10 and realize that even though the UN fully supports the extermination of muslims you have to keep it on the down low (its political correctness gone mad!)

Many of the people on the ships weren't muslim.

yeah but the ship was going to aid muslims, that was its crime

No, it's crime was not going through the right hoops.

The right hoops of an illegal blockade? Well that is a new one.

The legality is a matter of debate
UN says one thing, but they aint the boss of Israel
Israel consistently proves this.

[Upper North Yorkshire]

The Israelis checked for weapons BAM! The workers started a fight Israelis using selfdefence kil 10 to 20 ppl.

with a name like 'holland israel and us' i'm not surprised at the lack of objective argument!

I may have to admit i am a lil pro Israel but im not anti muslim or any arab country i have muslim friends

fair play then

[Thurask]

loving all the israel apologists

i always find it hilarious that the oh so persecuted race that is the jews make the most of their freedom by treating those peaky muslims like vermin.

israel needs to learn to count to 10 and realize that even though the UN fully supports the extermination of muslims you have to keep it on the down low (its political correctness gone mad!)

Many of the people on the ships weren't muslim.

yeah but the ship was going to aid muslims, that was its crime

No, it's crime was not going through the right hoops.

The right hoops of an illegal blockade? Well that is a new one.

The legality is a matter of debate
UN says one thing, but they aint the boss of Israel
Israel consistently proves this.

Like getting UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 revoked?

[Lelouche]

loving all the israel apologists

i always find it hilarious that the oh so persecuted race that is the jews make the most of their freedom by treating those peaky muslims like vermin.

israel needs to learn to count to 10 and realize that even though the UN fully supports the extermination of muslims you have to keep it on the down low (its political correctness gone mad!)

Many of the people on the ships weren't muslim.

yeah but the ship was going to aid muslims, that was its crime

No, it's crime was not going through the right hoops.

but me giving change to a tramp on the street is being charitable without going through the right hoops (i should really give that money to a charity for homeless people) does that mean i should be shot in the face?

The difference is, the Israel isn't trying to stop from giving change to a homeless person, in fact nobody is, or ever will.
The will however try to stop you from giving aid to Palestine, on the grounds that that aid might be weapons.

[Holland Israel and USA]

The Israelis checked for weapons BAM! The workers started a fight Israelis using selfdefence kil 10 to 20 ppl.

with a name like 'holland israel and us' i'm not surprised at the lack of objective argument!

I may have to admit i am a lil pro Israel but im not anti muslim or any arab country i have muslim friends

fair play then

I am 100 % against racism to any race or nation and you should be as well

[Lelouche]

loving all the israel apologists

i always find it hilarious that the oh so persecuted race that is the jews make the most of their freedom by treating those peaky muslims like vermin.

israel needs to learn to count to 10 and realize that even though the UN fully supports the extermination of muslims you have to keep it on the down low (its political correctness gone mad!)

Many of the people on the ships weren't muslim.

yeah but the ship was going to aid muslims, that was its crime

No, it's crime was not going through the right hoops.

The right hoops of an illegal blockade? Well that is a new one.

The legality is a matter of debate
UN says one thing, but they aint the boss of Israel
Israel consistently proves this.

Like getting UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 revoked?

Resolutions mean Dick to those who don't care for them
Revoke or not, it doesn't matter.
Nobody is stopping them
Law is only valid if it can be enforced, and nobody from the UN is stopping them.

[Upper North Yorkshire]

The Israelis checked for weapons BAM! The workers started a fight Israelis using selfdefence kil 10 to 20 ppl.

with a name like 'holland israel and us' i'm not surprised at the lack of objective argument!

I may have to admit i am a lil pro Israel but im not anti muslim or any arab country i have muslim friends

fair play then

I am 100 % against racism to any race or nation and you should be as well

i am! i marched against racism on saturday (not on my own btw)

[Holland Israel and USA]

The Israelis checked for weapons BAM! The workers started a fight Israelis using selfdefence kil 10 to 20 ppl.

with a name like 'holland israel and us' i'm not surprised at the lack of objective argument!

I may have to admit i am a lil pro Israel but im not anti muslim or any arab country i have muslim friends

fair play then

I am 100 % against racism to any race or nation and you should be as well

i am! i marched against racism on saturday (not on my own btw)

So there you have it maybe Israel shouldnt just have boarded the ship but the workers if muslm or not should not throw a soldier in the water and beat soldiers with rods!

[The Corparation]

The Isreali Commandos should learn from this.

[North Calaveras]

I can't believe how ridicules many of these comments are, people do realize that they were armed with paintball guns right? they switched to real ammunition when people started to fire upon them. Why doesn't the opening post show this?

[Pirate Sea Ports]

I will grant that attacking the aid workers was very much out of line, but you can at least understand why Israel is so twitchy. They are constantly under attack and have been for the past 60 years, if you were living in a situation like that, you'd be a bit trigger happy as well.

[Shofercia]

I will grant that attacking the aid workers was very much out of line, but you can at least understand why Israel is so twitchy. They are constantly under attack and have been for the past 60 years, if you were living in a situation like that, you'd be a bit trigger happy as well.

I don't see Marines shooting civvies in Iraq on a massive scale. I see contractors, such as Blackwater doing that. If people have very few morals, and think they can get away with it, they do it. USMC does not.

[Panzerjaeger]

So now foreign relations = farming?

Even I couldn't pull that one off.

That has nothing to do with farming. Then again someone as obtuse as you wouldn't get the analogy.

[Minotzia]

I will grant that attacking the aid workers was very much out of line, but you can at least understand why Israel is so twitchy. They are constantly under attack and have been for the past 60 years, if you were living in a situation like that, you'd be a bit trigger happy as well.

I don't see Marines shooting civvies in Iraq on a massive scale. I see contractors, such as Blackwater doing that. If people have very few morals, and think they can get away with it, they do it. USMC does not.

I don't think you really refuted his point there, the US hasn't had a threat of invasion for the last 30 years at least, and hasn't been territorially invaded for around a century. Israel is under constant threat for attack from nearly every nation in its world region by people who don't just want to destroy the state of Israel, but annihilate the people.

[DaWoad]

I will grant that attacking the aid workers was very much out of line, but you can at least understand why Israel is so twitchy. They are constantly under attack and have been for the past 60 years, if you were living in a situation like that, you'd be a bit trigger happy as well.

I don't see Marines shooting civvies in Iraq on a massive scale. I see contractors, such as Blackwater doing that. If people have very few morals, and think they can get away with it, they do it. USMC does not.

not USMC buuut still
Fair play: some of this is fairly gruesome and there is some emotive music in the background

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpBxToUPwQ

[Sel Appa]

Wow a 44 page Israel hatefest. I shouldve gotten here earlier.

This video tells us all we need to know:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
Israeli commandos were brutally attacked and beaten and thrown overboard the minute they got on board. This wasnt even resistance against people shooting at you (which didnt happen). They literally were beating the hell out of soldiers and throwing them off the ship.

Israel thought it was dealing with standard crazy protesters that would just be punching at them at worst. If they knew they were going to be attacked, they would have seized control differently or used more force. I think its better that they underestimated because now the world can see how the other side really acts.

This charade served no purpose other than politics. Israel and Egypt both offered to screen and allow the goods through, but the crazies declined because they had secret weapons on board or they were interested in setting up an incident (or both).

If any other country in the world boarded a ship with guns blazing, no one would care. When Israel boards a ship without even using their paintball guns at first, a UNSC meeting is called.

Either it was impossible to do it on the left, they didnt expect to be attacked that brutally, or the areas originally were not like the mob on the right.

I don't see Marines shooting civvies in Iraq on a massive scale. I see contractors, such as Blackwater doing that. If people have very few morals, and think they can get away with it, they do it. USMC does not.

The USMC wouldve just bombed the ship, or come on board with guns blazing and dozens would be dead.

Finally, where are the "Peace and Freedom Flotillas" for the starving oppressed people of North Korea? Sudan? Or any other country that doesnt have overflowing supermarkets, first class restaurants, and new swimming pools?

How do all you Israel haters sleep with yourselves at night?

[Jaunty tunes]

The Isreali Commandos should learn from this.

When a ship is passing through an internaitonally recognised blockade without going throught the proper channels than the military that is running the blockade has put in place and proceeds to beat the military with rods

the military will
a) fire
b) stand there and say "please stop"
c) do the hokey pokey
d) Pack up and leave

i see this whole event as deliberately staged to attack the Israeli policies. If they really believed the blockade was immoral that is their own belief which they are entitled to. But when they want to attack one countries soldiers with weapons and claim that the soldiers overreacted afterwards it is really a hypocritical statement

[Utvara]

For those of you who still believe that a huge number of Israeli Jews aren't raised to hate Arabs, and that Israeli Arabs aren't second class citizens...

[Panzerjaeger]

The Isreali Commandos should learn from this.

When a ship is passing through an internaitonally recognised blockade without going throught the proper channels than the military that is running the blockade has put in place and proceeds to beat the military with rods

the military will
a) fire
b) stand there and say "please stop"
c) do the hokey pokey
d) Pack up and leave

i see this whole event as deliberately staged to attack the Israeli policies. If they really believed the blockade was immoral that is their own belief which they are entitled to. But when they want to attack one countries soldiers with weapons and claim that the soldiers overreacted afterwards it is really a hypocritical statement

To bad it isn't an internationally recognized blockade but an Internationally recognized Illegal Blockade.