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Dyakovo wrote:1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.
2: Derivative of, not copy of.
3: Exaggeration, to say the least and commercial breaks aren't a part of the game.
4: "Soccer" players (as would rugby players) would wear as much padding as American football players if they had to endure they same kind of hits...
5: Not more skill, simply a different skill set.
6: As do American football players...

American football: The National Football League (NFL) requires that its games have twenty commercial breaks, with ten in each half (an exception is the overtime period which has none). These intervals run either one or two minutes in length. Of the ten per half, two are mandatory (the end of the quarter and the two-minute warning) and the remaining eight are optional. Such timeouts can be applied after field goal tries, conversion attempts for both one and two points following touchdowns, changes in possession either by punts or turnovers, and kickoffs with the exception of the ones that start each half or are within the last five minutes of such. They are also called during stoppages due to injury, instant replay challenges, when either of the participating teams uses one of its set of timeouts, and if the network needs to catch up on its commercial advertisement schedule. The arrangement for college football contests is similar, except for the absence of the two-minute warning.

The Archregimancy wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.
2: Derivative of, not copy of.
3: Exaggeration, to say the least and commercial breaks aren't a part of the game.
4: "Soccer" players (as would rugby players) would wear as much padding as American football players if they had to endure they same kind of hits...
5: Not more skill, simply a different skill set.
6: As do American football players...

Commercial breaks are a part of American football, or at least NFL football.

Some years ago, I went to an Atlanta Hawks game (against an Elway-led Denver Broncos, I think, though my memory's a bit sketchy on this point).

Every now and then, at the end of a play, the players would mill around aimlessly on the field, the cheerleaders would step forward and perform a routine, and that was it for about 2-3 minutes. Then the cheerleaders would move back, the players would form a huddle again, and play would resume.

Eventually we worked out (with a bit of help from the people sitting next to us) that what appeared to us to be random and inexplicable extended breaks in the action were commercial time-outs inserted into the game to allow the broadcasting network to fit in the requisite amount of advertising.

A quick Google search for 'television timeout' brings up a Wiki article that confirms this isn't just my memory playing tricks on me:

American football: The National Football League (NFL) requires that its games have twenty commercial breaks, with ten in each half (an exception is the overtime period which has none). These intervals run either one or two minutes in length. Of the ten per half, two are mandatory (the end of the quarter and the two-minute warning) and the remaining eight are optional. Such timeouts can be applied after field goal tries, conversion attempts for both one and two points following touchdowns, changes in possession either by punts or turnovers, and kickoffs with the exception of the ones that start each half or are within the last five minutes of such. They are also called during stoppages due to injury, instant replay challenges, when either of the participating teams uses one of its set of timeouts, and if the network needs to catch up on its commercial advertisement schedule. The arrangement for college football contests is similar, except for the absence of the two-minute warning.

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

The "World Series" is baseball not American football...
Also, they didn't "steal the name" of another sport.

Dyakovo wrote:Television timeouts for the NFL are to make the game more tv friendly, not an intrinsic part of the game.

SD_Film Artists wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

The "World Series" is baseball not American football...
Also, they didn't "steal the name" of another sport.

1: Okay, though still an American sport

2: How so?

football wrote:any of various games played with a ball (round or oval) in which two teams try to kick or carry or propel the ball into each other's goal

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

The "World Series" is baseball not American football...
Also, they didn't "steal the name" of another sport.

1: Okay, though still an American sport

2: How so?

1: But a completely different sport and thus has no bearing on the discussion at hand...
2: Both fit the definition of a "football" game...

football wrote:any of various games played with a ball (round or oval) in which two teams try to kick or carry or propel the ball into each other's goal

SD_Film Artists wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

The "World Series" is baseball not American football...
Also, they didn't "steal the name" of another sport.

1: Okay, though still an American sport

2: How so?

1: But a completely different sport and thus has no bearing on the discussion at hand...
2: Both fit the definition of a "football" game...

football wrote:any of various games played with a ball (round or oval) in which two teams try to kick or carry or propel the ball into each other's goal

1: Yes.
2: Well not really, it's more like Rugby. And besides, there's already a sport called Football.

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

The "World Series" is baseball not American football...
Also, they didn't "steal the name" of another sport.

1: Okay, though still an American sport

2: How so?

1: But a completely different sport and thus has no bearing on the discussion at hand...
2: Both fit the definition of a "football" game...

football wrote:any of various games played with a ball (round or oval) in which two teams try to kick or carry or propel the ball into each other's goal

1: Yes.
2: Well not really, it's more like Rugby. And besides, there's already a sport called Football.

Rugby is a football game...

The Archregimancy wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.
2: Derivative of, not copy of.
3: Exaggeration, to say the least and commercial breaks aren't a part of the game.
4: "Soccer" players (as would rugby players) would wear as much padding as American football players if they had to endure they same kind of hits...
5: Not more skill, simply a different skill set.
6: As do American football players...

Commercial breaks are a part of American football, or at least NFL football.

Some years ago, I went to an Atlanta Hawks game (against an Elway-led Denver Broncos, I think, though my memory's a bit sketchy on this point).

Every now and then, at the end of a play, the players would mill around aimlessly on the field, the cheerleaders would step forward and perform a routine, and that was it for about 2-3 minutes. Then the cheerleaders would move back, the players would form a huddle again, and play would resume.

Eventually we worked out (with a bit of help from the people sitting next to us) that what appeared to us to be random and inexplicable extended breaks in the action were commercial time-outs inserted into the game to allow the broadcasting network to fit in the requisite amount of advertising.

A quick Google search for 'television timeout' brings up a Wiki article that confirms this isn't just my memory playing tricks on me:

American football: The National Football League (NFL) requires that its games have twenty commercial breaks, with ten in each half (an exception is the overtime period which has none). These intervals run either one or two minutes in length. Of the ten per half, two are mandatory (the end of the quarter and the two-minute warning) and the remaining eight are optional. Such timeouts can be applied after field goal tries, conversion attempts for both one and two points following touchdowns, changes in possession either by punts or turnovers, and kickoffs with the exception of the ones that start each half or are within the last five minutes of such. They are also called during stoppages due to injury, instant replay challenges, when either of the participating teams uses one of its set of timeouts, and if the network needs to catch up on its commercial advertisement schedule. The arrangement for college football contests is similar, except for the absence of the two-minute warning.

Blouman Empire wrote:Don't know if you ever went to an AFL match when in Australia but a similar thing happens after every goal. The umpire before bouncing the ball will wait for a light to flash from the commentary boxes to signify that the ads are over.

The Archregimancy wrote:

Blouman Empire wrote:Don't know if you ever went to an AFL match when in Australia but a similar thing happens after every goal. The umpire before bouncing the ball will wait for a light to flash from the commentary boxes to signify that the ads are over.

I did. Collingwood versus somebody, though I forget whom.

One of the reasons I could never really get into AFL was because practically every time someone scored a goal in a televised match, the network would cut away to an advert. So where the uninitiated might want to see some replays to gain a better understanding of what had just happened, instead I was treated to a couple of bogans trying to entice me into eating at Red Rooster. All televised matches assume you already know what's happening.

You can sort of see why it didn't quite work for me...

And I still don't know how far you're allowed to run before you have to bounce the ball.

Holland Israel and USA wrote:

The Archregimancy wrote:

Blouman Empire wrote:Don't know if you ever went to an AFL match when in Australia but a similar thing happens after every goal. The umpire before bouncing the ball will wait for a light to flash from the commentary boxes to signify that the ads are over.

I did. Collingwood versus somebody, though I forget whom.

One of the reasons I could never really get into AFL was because practically every time someone scored a goal in a televised match, the network would cut away to an advert. So where the uninitiated might want to see some replays to gain a better understanding of what had just happened, instead I was treated to a couple of bogans trying to entice me into eating at Red Rooster. All televised matches assume you already know what's happening.

You can sort of see why it didn't quite work for me...

And I still don't know how far you're allowed to run before you have to bounce the ball.

Soccer is the most played and watched sport, thats a FACT!

SD_Film Artists wrote:In a very broad sence, perhaps. It's in their hands the majority of the time.

New Chalcedon wrote:ARF for the win!

Seriously, Australian Rules Football is far cooler, more stylish and more athletically demanding than that over-muscled idiocy you play in America!

SD_Film Artists wrote:I don't like American football with its American-centricness (how can it be a "World Series" if only one nation bar Hati plays it?) and stealing the name of another sport, but it does have better team names.

The Archregimancy wrote:

Blouman Empire wrote:Don't know if you ever went to an AFL match when in Australia but a similar thing happens after every goal. The umpire before bouncing the ball will wait for a light to flash from the commentary boxes to signify that the ads are over.

I did. Collingwood versus somebody, though I forget whom.

One of the reasons I could never really get into AFL was because practically every time someone scored a goal in a televised match, the network would cut away to an advert. So where the uninitiated might want to see some replays to gain a better understanding of what had just happened, instead I was treated to a couple of bogans trying to entice me into eating at Red Rooster. All televised matches assume you already know what's happening.

You can sort of see why it didn't quite work for me...

And I still don't know how far you're allowed to run before you have to bounce the ball.

Blouman Empire wrote:

And I still don't know how far you're allowed to run before you have to bounce the ball.

Either do I, I think the umpires make it uo as they go along.

Dyakovo wrote:1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.