Whose football wins and why

[Maurepas]

football is the wuss' game.

Go rugby

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Rugby's a code of football.

Umm, yes?

Just saying that to say "football is a wuss' game", would be to say that all codes of football are a wuss' game, and therefore, Rugby would be too by that logic.

[Southern Rynisia]

My football!

[Blouman Empire]

football is the wuss' game.

Go rugby

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Rugby's a code of football.

Umm, yes?

Just saying that to say "football is a wuss' game", would be to say that all codes of football are a wuss' game, and therefore, Rugby would be too by that logic.

Oh I didn't see that. The only version of football which is a wuss game is American Football, fancy using all that protection take your tackles and knocks like a real man.

[Maurepas]

football is the wuss' game.

Go rugby

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Rugby's a code of football.

Umm, yes?

Just saying that to say "football is a wuss' game", would be to say that all codes of football are a wuss' game, and therefore, Rugby would be too by that logic.

Oh I didn't see that. The only version of football which is a wuss game is American Football, fancy using all that protection take your tackles and knocks like a real man.

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

[Blouman Empire]

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

So they never used to use padding and helmets till it turned professional and into big business?

[Maurepas]

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

So they never used to use padding and helmets till it turned professional and into big business?

Not really no, I think they wore a leather cap back in the day, but, IIRC, that was about it. Big business and a fear of injuries in schools are what prompted the pads I believe.

Hell, back then you couldn't pass, so, you didn't have a choice but to take the hit, >_>

[Blouman Empire]

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

So they never used to use padding and helmets till it turned professional and into big business?

Not really no, I think they wore a leather cap back in the day, but, IIRC, that was about it. Big business and a fear of injuries in schools are what prompted the pads I believe.

Hell, back then you couldn't pass, so, you didn't have a choice but to take the hit, >_>

Interesting.

[Maurepas]

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

So they never used to use padding and helmets till it turned professional and into big business?

Not really no, I think they wore a leather cap back in the day, but, IIRC, that was about it. Big business and a fear of injuries in schools are what prompted the pads I believe.

Hell, back then you couldn't pass, so, you didn't have a choice but to take the hit, >_>

Interesting.

The passing thing can thank California about, you still have people down here that bitch about that,

[Blouman Empire]

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

So they never used to use padding and helmets till it turned professional and into big business?

Not really no, I think they wore a leather cap back in the day, but, IIRC, that was about it. Big business and a fear of injuries in schools are what prompted the pads I believe.

Hell, back then you couldn't pass, so, you didn't have a choice but to take the hit, >_>

Interesting.

The passing thing can thank California about, you still have people down here that bitch about that,

Haha, doesn't it make it a one man against a team game without passing?

[Maurepas]

Not when I play it, they just do that cause they sink shit-tonnes of money into those guys...Noone's done so to me and my friends, so we do them pretty hardcore, no pads,

So they never used to use padding and helmets till it turned professional and into big business?

Not really no, I think they wore a leather cap back in the day, but, IIRC, that was about it. Big business and a fear of injuries in schools are what prompted the pads I believe.

Hell, back then you couldn't pass, so, you didn't have a choice but to take the hit, >_>

Interesting.

The passing thing can thank California about, you still have people down here that bitch about that,

Haha, doesn't it make it a one man against a team game without passing?

Not really, basically it entailed alot more running, and alot more laterals, did you ever see the "River City Relay" play? It's kinda like that.

Minus the pass at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Od9C2dKiCI

That was an incredibly disappointing game though, >_>

[Gordonopia]

American football wins every time. The players are bigger, faster and have more athletic prowess. Also, the sport is way more fun to watch. Finally, American football has the BEST team on the planet (yes, I'm plugging):




Oh yeah... That's some good stuff right there.

[Blouman Empire]

Not really, basically it entailed alot more running, and alot more laterals, did you ever see the "River City Relay" play? It's kinda like that.

Minus the pass at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Od9C2dKiCI

That was an incredibly disappointing game though, >_>

So like that put without all the passing?

Though that did look pretty intense and I forgot you had blockers.

[Maurepas]

Not really, basically it entailed alot more running, and alot more laterals, did you ever see the "River City Relay" play? It's kinda like that.

Minus the pass at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Od9C2dKiCI

That was an incredibly disappointing game though, >_>

So like that put without all the passing?

Though that did look pretty intense and I forgot you had blockers.

I forgot, technical terminology I guess,

A lateral in American Football is different from a Pass, a lateral can be thrown to the side and behind you, a pass can be thrown forward.

Basically, back in the day, you couldn't throw in front of you. So, there was only one pass in that play, the first throw.

[Blouman Empire]

I forgot, technical terminology I guess,

A lateral in American Football is different from a Pass, a lateral can be thrown to the side and behind you, a pass can be thrown forward.

Basically, back in the day, you couldn't throw in front of you. So, there was only one pass in that play, the first throw.

Oh ok, that makes a bit more sense.

Rugby league still has that old rule passing the ball must be behind the play not forward.

[Maurepas]

I forgot, technical terminology I guess,

A lateral in American Football is different from a Pass, a lateral can be thrown to the side and behind you, a pass can be thrown forward.

Basically, back in the day, you couldn't throw in front of you. So, there was only one pass in that play, the first throw.

Oh ok, that makes a bit more sense.

Rugby league still has that old rule passing the ball must be behind the play not forward.

Definitely lends credence to the theory that American Football was based on Rugby.

[Blouman Empire]

I forgot, technical terminology I guess,

A lateral in American Football is different from a Pass, a lateral can be thrown to the side and behind you, a pass can be thrown forward.

Basically, back in the day, you couldn't throw in front of you. So, there was only one pass in that play, the first throw.

Oh ok, that makes a bit more sense.

Rugby league still has that old rule passing the ball must be behind the play not forward.

Definitely lends credence to the theory that American Football was based on Rugby.

Yeah it does.

[Errinundera]

As an Australian Rules fan I'd have to say that soccer is more interesting to watch than grid-iron. There's far too much time when nothing is happening in grid-iron although the tactics are fascinating.

The different body types that pre-dominate in the sports are also interesting. The best soccer players are usually short and have a low centre of gravity. Grid-iron players are tall and strong, Australian Rules players are moderate to tall in height but very fast.

Oh. And rugby players have no necks.

[Starblaydia]

Not really, basically it entailed alot more running, and alot more laterals, did you ever see the "River City Relay" play? It's kinda like that.

Do that for a whole match and it's... Rugby. Essentially.

[Dyakovo]

American football wins every time. The players are bigger, faster and have more athletic prowess.

Uh-huh...

[The Zoogie People]

American football wins every time. The players are bigger, faster and have more athletic prowess.

Uh-huh...

Not that having better physique means anything. Gymnastics or weightlifting requires some of the most intensive physiques, but that doesn't make them more fun to watch than soccer. But NFL players are big and strong and fast, and there's no sense cherrypicking some fat guy - who is still incredibly powerful into trying to prove a point.

[Andrewboy]

football:
they cant take a hit without 60 pounds of protection

its a copy of rugby

very few people outside North America care about it

They break for comercials every 2 seconds

soccer:
more people like it, in fact its the most popluar sport in the world

It takes more skill

theres about the same amount of tactics, except soccer players have to have the mental ablitity to change those tactics depending on what oponents do.

Its tougher(soccer players only have shin pads, and trust me, they dont do much)

It has bigger franchises

it dosent need a draft every year to keep people whos teams suck intrested.

[South Norwega]

football:
they cant take a hit without 60 pounds of protection

Actually they probably can. But it's safer with the protection.

its a copy of rugby

Hardly. They can throw forwards.

very few people outside North America care about it

Oh noes. That is irrelevant.

They break for comercials every 2 seconds

Exaggeration

soccer:
more people like it, in fact its the most popluar sport in the world

Arguable. Probably true, but still arguable.

It takes more skill

Again arguable. Dodging 150 kilogram things running at you is fairly skilful.

theres about the same amount of tactics, except soccer players have to have the mental ablitity to change those tactics depending on what oponents do.

And you're saying that American Football players can't do this?

Its tougher(soccer players only have shin pads, and trust me, they dont do much)

Oh noes.

It has bigger franchises

A couple larger, many of the top few are NFL sides.

it dosent need a draft every year to keep people whos teams suck intrested.

That's because they don't have relegation. It's so you don't get dominated by 4 or 5 teams, unlike things like the Premier League, Serie A and the Spanish League whatever it's called.

[Dyakovo]

football:
they cant take a hit without 60 pounds of protection⁴

its a copy of rugby²

very few people outside North America care about it¹

They break for comercials every 2 seconds³

soccer:
more people like it, in fact its the most popluar sport in the world¹

It takes more skill⁵

theres about the same amount of tactics, except soccer players have to have the mental ablitity to change those tactics depending on what oponents do.⁶

Its tougher(soccer players only have shin pads, and trust me, they dont do much)⁴

It has bigger franchises¹

it dosent need a draft every year to keep people whos teams suck intrested.

1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.
2: Derivative of, not copy of.
3: Exaggeration, to say the least and commercial breaks aren't a part of the game.
4: "Soccer" players (as would rugby players) would wear as much padding as American football players if they had to endure they same kind of hits...
5: Not more skill, simply a different skill set.
6: As do American football players...

[Andrewboy]

football:
they cant take a hit without 60 pounds of protection⁴

its a copy of rugby²

very few people outside North America care about it¹

They break for comercials every 2 seconds³

soccer:
more people like it, in fact its the most popluar sport in the world¹

It takes more skill⁵

theres about the same amount of tactics, except soccer players have to have the mental ablitity to change those tactics depending on what oponents do.⁶

Its tougher(soccer players only have shin pads, and trust me, they dont do much)⁴

It has bigger franchises¹

it dosent need a draft every year to keep people whos teams suck intrested.

1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.
2: Derivative of, not copy of.
3: Exaggeration, to say the least and commercial breaks aren't a part of the game.
4: "Soccer" players (as would rugby players) would wear as much padding as American football players if they had to endure they same kind of hits...
5: Not more skill, simply a different skill set.
6: As do American football players...

your points token, but on number 6 and 5, soccer players do it better

[Dyakovo]

football:
they cant take a hit without 60 pounds of protection⁴

its a copy of rugby²

very few people outside North America care about it¹

They break for comercials every 2 seconds³

soccer:
more people like it, in fact its the most popluar sport in the world¹

It takes more skill⁵

theres about the same amount of tactics, except soccer players have to have the mental ablitity to change those tactics depending on what oponents do.⁶

Its tougher(soccer players only have shin pads, and trust me, they dont do much)⁴

It has bigger franchises¹

it dosent need a draft every year to keep people whos teams suck intrested.

1: More popular doesn't mean objectively better.
2: Derivative of, not copy of.
3: Exaggeration, to say the least and commercial breaks aren't a part of the game.
4: "Soccer" players (as would rugby players) would wear as much padding as American football players if they had to endure they same kind of hits...
5: Not more skill, simply a different skill set.
6: As do American football players...

your points token, but on number 6 and 5, soccer players do it better

6: The games are different, association football is more free-form by design than American football
5: Association football players are better at having a different skill set than American football players?