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Postby Starblaydia » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:54 am

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Barringtonia wrote:American football is all tactics and no skill,

You mean like reliably coordinating throwing a ball to a precise point on the field at a certain time, and another player being at that exact point on the field at that exact time regardless of what obstacles are in his way? Or recognizing how an offensive lineman is moving to block you so you can make sure you avoid him to get to the runner or quarterback?

All of which takes place on a Marks-Set-Go system of set plays, rather than the totally free-form play (barring Corners & Free Kicks, which even then don't have the kick-taker yelling out the moment they're going to kick the ball) of Football/Soccer. Guiding a ball to a precise point of the field because you've seen where someone might be running to for them to latch on to is no less skillful than a set of drills to do the same thing - arguably it relies on a whole different set of skills.

Brewdomia wrote:American cause it requires more intelligence, you have to be aware at all times, and have the ability to be hit thousands of times over the course of a season.

It must be a certain kind of intelligence to be hit thousands of times over the course of a season, certainly. Not that rugby is any different in that regard, though.
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Postby Georgism » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:05 am

Association football and Rugby. Gaelic football is quite amusing and all. :)
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Postby Nort Eurasia » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:07 am

Nobody wins. Sports are pointless and primal.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:24 am

Nort Eurasia wrote:Nobody wins. Sports are pointless and primal.

And yet make billions every year....
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:29 am

Nort Eurasia wrote:Nobody wins. Sports are pointless and primal.


Actually, taking your children to a sports match is one of the most socially healthy things a parent can do.
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So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

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Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:31 am

James Bluntus wrote:Australian. Rugby League. Not that weird AFL.


It is Australian Rules Football or Aussies Rules not AFL.

Nothing pisses me off more than when people call the sport AFL. The sport it not AFL that is the league it would be like saying that AC Milan play EPL.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:32 am

Central World Alliance wrote:Does American football beat regular football and why.


Clearly it doesn't, because, like the name would suggest, football shouldn't be played with the hand.
Also, American football is nothing more than a cheap knock-off of the real thing, which would be Rugby Union.
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Postby Brewdomia » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:56 pm

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Brewdomia wrote:Plus, American Football has some of the richest sports franchises in the world, and thats just one country.


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Postby The Zoogie People » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:02 pm

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/34/biz ... 40001.html

http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html

ManU value: $1.8 bn in 2007

Wash Redskins: $1.1 bn in ... 2009? (they rank first in the NFL)

I love American football and everything, but I think those Euro, etc football clubs are bigger.
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Postby Brewdomia » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:09 pm

The Zoogie People wrote:http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/34/biz_soccer08_Manchester-United_340001.html

http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html

ManU value: $1.8 bn in 2007

Wash Redskins: $1.1 bn in ... 2009? (they rank first in the NFL)

I love American football and everything, but I think those Euro, etc football clubs are bigger.


http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/13/nfl-cowboys-yankees-biz-media-cx_tvr_0113values_slide_4.html

I never said Euro clubs were not the richest. I am trying to say that a single league in one country has 6 of 10 richest franchises in the world.

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Postby Australien » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:24 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:Soccer is far and away the most skilled of the football codes.

A story comes to mind. In 1964 the best players of the Victorian Football League (who played Australian rules football) challenged the Victorian soccer champions, Slavia, to a game of soccer. They reasoned that since soccer players were such pansies, the VFL team, with a bit of training, could easily win. Long story short, Slavia won 8-0. Over two 50 minute halves. VFL hard man Ron Barassi sustained an injury that eventually forced him to give up football.

And these were only the best soccer players in Victoria, against the best Aussie rules players in the world. Imagine if it was a genuine team of soccer champions, and the game was full length. What would the score have been, 3206-0?


Epic lawl, "Best soccer players in Victoria against the best Aussie rules players in the world" How many countries have a major AFL league? One: AUSTRALIA! And what is the main state for AFL? VICTORIA! So you're pretty much wording up this to make it sound worse than it was.

And as has been mentioned, let's see that happen if Slavia played them at AFL.
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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:10 pm

Australien wrote:Epic lawl, "Best soccer players in Victoria against the best Aussie rules players in the world" How many countries have a major AFL league? One: AUSTRALIA! And what is the main state for AFL? VICTORIA! So you're pretty much wording up this to make it sound worse than it was.


If only one country plays the sport, then by default, they're the best in the world. Duh.

Australien wrote:And as has been mentioned, let's see that happen if Slavia played them at AFL.


And as I said, they weren't stupid enough to think that they could beat trained professionals at their own game. The VFL players were.
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Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:11 pm

Brewdomia wrote:I never said Euro clubs were not the richest. I am trying to say that a single league in one country has 6 of 10 richest franchises in the world.


Yeah, and that country has 300m people. Do you see the difference there?
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby South Norwega » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:10 am

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Australien wrote:Epic lawl, "Best soccer players in Victoria against the best Aussie rules players in the world" How many countries have a major AFL league? One: AUSTRALIA! And what is the main state for AFL? VICTORIA! So you're pretty much wording up this to make it sound worse than it was.


If only one country plays the sport, then by default, they're the best in the world. Duh.

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:11 am

South Norwega wrote:Aussie Rules is the most popular sport in Nauru...


I meant professionally. I'm pretty sure that there are no other fully professional leagues apart from the AFL.
Strykyh wrote:I wasn't trying to be intelligent.

Keronians wrote:
So you think it's ok to waste valuable police time and resources to pander to minority superstitions?

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about ten minutes, I have to go to ID a Muslim woman."


Yes.

Unless of course it's not OK for a woman to ask for a female to ask for a female officer to carry out body checks. In which case, the answer would be no.

"All available officers, report downtown, armed suspected firing wildly into the public."
"I'll be about then minutes, I have to go to carry out a body check on a woman."

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Postby Strathy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:17 am

I am sorry, but if I want to see god knows how many men, wearing idiotic clothing and running into each other, I'd just let some retards loose in a locked room. Anyway, American football is simply rugby for pussies. Rugby is just as violent, but without the ridiculous armour. Frankly I have just given football up completely, curling is much more interesting.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:19 am

Strathy wrote:I am sorry, but if I want to see god knows how many men, wearing idiotic clothing and running into each other, I'd just let some retards loose in a locked room. Anyway, American football is simply rugby for pussies. Rugby is just as violent, but without the ridiculous armour. Frankly I have just given football up completely, curling is much more interesting.


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Postby Brewdomia » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:41 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:I never said Euro clubs were not the richest. I am trying to say that a single league in one country has 6 of 10 richest franchises in the world.


Yeah, and that country has 300m people. Do you see the difference there?


Yea and Europe has 700 million people. Your point?

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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:02 pm

The Zoogie People wrote:http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/34/biz_soccer08_Manchester-United_340001.html

http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html

ManU value: $1.8 bn in 2007

Wash Redskins: $1.1 bn in ... 2009? (they rank first in the NFL)

I love American football and everything, but I think those Euro, etc football clubs are bigger.

However a team like the Redskins actually spends FAR less than any major European soccer team. Thus its long-term value is significantly higher.
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Postby South Norwega » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:09 pm

Brewdomia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:I never said Euro clubs were not the richest. I am trying to say that a single league in one country has 6 of 10 richest franchises in the world.


Yeah, and that country has 300m people. Do you see the difference there?


Yea and Europe has 700 million people. Your point?

Europe has numerous top tier professional leagues, compared to the USA's individual league.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:12 pm

Brewdomia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:Plus, American Football has some of the richest sports franchises in the world, and thats just one country.


Lol.
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Postby Nort Eurasia » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nort Eurasia wrote:Nobody wins. Sports are pointless and primal.

And yet make billions every year....


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Postby Halmland » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:33 pm

go real football, american football is just another reason for grown men to hump eachother

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Postby Hegstoria » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:35 pm

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Postby S23Nation » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:39 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:Plus, American Football has some of the richest sports franchises in the world, and thats just one country.


Lol.
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