Georgia's Move to Ban Abortion.

[Farnhamia]

Hell - it's not actually even limited to women.

That's astounding. I assume you have a source?

Just google "male lactation." I got 1.7 million hits.

[Grave_n_idle]

yes actually my mom faced it 5 times my aunt 3 times my grandmother 9 times and my other aunts several times

So - a girl who has sex one time and decides to get an abortion is... what was your wording, 'a slutty slut'?

And yet your grandmother had 9 children? And your mother had 5?


Wouldn't that make your own mother and grandmother 'sluts'?

I am just using your logic...

[Dyakovo]

I'd still say, personally, that there has to be exception for special cases. The 13 year old who doesn't want to have her daddy's baby, for example.

And why did the 13 year old wait until she was 7-8 months pregnant to look into an abortion? I disagree on that particular exception, unless of course there is a significant medical risk to the 13 year old in having this child (as there likely would be).

Fear of retribution? Ignorance?

[Milks Empire]

Hell - it's not actually even limited to women.

That's astounding. I assume you have a source?

Anything with breast tissue can lactate if the right hormones get to the breast tissue.

I'd still say, personally, that there has to be exception for special cases. The 13 year old who doesn't want to have her daddy's baby, for example.

And why did the 13 year old wait until she was 7-8 months pregnant to look into an abortion? I disagree on that particular exception, unless of course there is a significant medical risk to the 13 year old in having this child (as there likely would be).

Fear of retribution? Ignorance?

Bingo. Usually a 13-year-old girl carrying Daddy's child is only carrying Daddy's child as a result of Daddy being abusive to said 13-year-old girl.

[Galloism]

I'd still say, personally, that there has to be exception for special cases. The 13 year old who doesn't want to have her daddy's baby, for example.

And why did the 13 year old wait until she was 7-8 months pregnant to look into an abortion? I disagree on that particular exception, unless of course there is a significant medical risk to the 13 year old in having this child (as there likely would be).

Fear of retribution? Ignorance?

Neither of which is good reason to kill a viable human being to me. It's unfortunate, really it is, but it's not a good reason to kill a viable fetus if both the fetus and the child can be preserved.

I would suggest though that the baby go up for adoption.

[The Black Forrest]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

I'm a scientist. You hate me? You don't even know me!

Of course, you probably would hate me if you knew me, but that's not the point...

Really?

What's your field of study?

[Farnhamia]

And why did the 13 year old wait until she was 7-8 months pregnant to look into an abortion? I disagree on that particular exception, unless of course there is a significant medical risk to the 13 year old in having this child (as there likely would be).

Fear of retribution? Ignorance?

Neither of which is good reason to kill a viable human being to me. It's unfortunate, really it is, but it's not a good reason to kill a viable fetus if both the fetus and the child can be preserved.

I would suggest though that the baby go up for adoption.

7 to 8 months on? I have to reluctantly go with Galloism here, unless the pregnancy is actually endangering her health. Can't make a rule, I think, it needs to be evaluated case-by-case. And this very sort of thing is why sex education has to be more than "Just say no."

As to how a woman can be unaware she's pregnant? Apparently it's common enough that there's a ten-part show on cable:

I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS PREGNANT (HEALTH)
BROADCAST HISTORY:
5/26/09 - ???
STATUS:
currently airing (summer 2009)
TIME SLOT:
tuesdays from 9:00 PM-10:00 PM EST
CURRENT SEASON:
1 (??? episodes)
VISIT THE OFFICIAL WEB SITE
DESCRIPTION:
(from Discovery Health's press release, May 2009) Discovery Health's popular special I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS PREGNANT is now a ten-part series! Beginning Tuesday, May 26 at 9 PM (ET/PT), this compelling documentary explores the fascinating and utterly unbelievable phenomenon of women who were completely unaware they were pregnant until they went into labor. Each episode follows the incredible stories of these women's unknown pregnancies through re-enactments and real-life interviews, as the lives of both mom and baby are jeopardized through the mysterious nine-month journey.

Words fail me.

[Galloism]

Words fail me.

I would think the lack of period would be a really big hint, but what do I know.

[Grave_n_idle]

And why did the 13 year old wait until she was 7-8 months pregnant to look into an abortion? I disagree on that particular exception, unless of course there is a significant medical risk to the 13 year old in having this child (as there likely would be).

Because it's only into late term when it becomes obvious that the 13 year old is pregnant? Maybe that's the earliest she gets the chance, or even realises there's a choice?

I have a sister-in-law who works in a North East Georgia hospital (and I believe Dempublicents has'had a relationship in another rural Georgia hospital, to corroborate) who says they see a disproportionately high level of young teen incest pregnancies, usually late term. Maybe that just says something about rural Georgia.

[Grave_n_idle]

Words fail me.

I would think the lack of period would be a really big hint, but what do I know.

Only if you assume that periods occur like clockwork. If I were going to measure by menstruation, we'd never have known when my wife was pregnant, because her periods can be three weeks apart, or six months.

[Dyakovo]

Words fail me.

I would think the lack of period would be a really big hint, but what do I know.

I seem to recall there being other factors that can cause menstruation to stop...

Also, I do believe there have been instances where a pregnant woman continues menstruating...
I don't have any sources for that so I'll have to get back to you on it.

[Grave_n_idle]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

I'm a scientist. You hate me? You don't even know me!

Of course, you probably would hate me if you knew me, but that's not the point...

Really?

What's your field of study?

I'm a chemist.

[Grave_n_idle]

Words fail me.

I would think the lack of period would be a really big hint, but what do I know.

I seem to recall there being other factors that can cause menstruation to stop...

Also, I do believe there have been instances where a pregnant woman continues menstruating...
I don't have any sources for that so I'll have to get back to you on it.

Both these things are true.

Stress can stop menstruation. Anorexia can stop menstruation. Both are not uncommon.

Women often bleed during pregnancy. They call it 'break-through bleeding', I believe.

[Grave_n_idle]

Anything with breast tissue can lactate if the right hormones get to the breast tissue.

Ah, Dr House - is there ANYTHING you can't teach us?



I'm not the only one who saw that episode, right?

[Dyakovo]

I would think the lack of period would be a really big hint, but what do I know.

I seem to recall there being other factors that can cause menstruation to stop...

Also, I do believe there have been instances where a pregnant woman continues menstruating...
I don't have any sources for that so I'll have to get back to you on it.

Both these things are true.

Stress can stop menstruation. Anorexia can stop menstruation. Both are not uncommon.

Women often bleed during pregnancy. They call it 'break-through bleeding', I believe.

Yup, found a link for it as well...
http://www.pregnancywizard.com/trimeste ... uation.php

[Galloism]

And why did the 13 year old wait until she was 7-8 months pregnant to look into an abortion? I disagree on that particular exception, unless of course there is a significant medical risk to the 13 year old in having this child (as there likely would be).

Because it's only into late term when it becomes obvious that the 13 year old is pregnant? Maybe that's the earliest she gets the chance, or even realises there's a choice?

I have a sister-in-law who works in a North East Georgia hospital (and I believe Dempublicents has'had a relationship in another rural Georgia hospital, to corroborate) who says they see a disproportionately high level of young teen incest pregnancies, usually late term. Maybe that just says something about rural Georgia.

Sounds like Georgia.

But no, I don't think ignorance or fear is good enough reason to kill a fully viable homo-sapien once it can survive outside the body of its mother.

[Galloism]

Yup, found a link for it as well...
http://www.pregnancywizard.com/trimeste ... uation.php

Interesting. I learned something today.

[Trve]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

Yeah, I much prefer the religious, who just use a bunch of old books for reasons to murder.

[Dyakovo]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

Yeah, I much prefer the religious, who just use a bunch of old books for reasons to murder.

Well, old reasons are always better than new reasons...

[Milks Empire]

Anything with breast tissue can lactate if the right hormones get to the breast tissue.

Ah, Dr House - is there ANYTHING you can't teach us?



I'm not the only one who saw that episode, right?

Haven't seen it or don't remember it. Please don't divulge anything more than season and episode number. I wanna see for myself!

[Trve]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

Yeah, I much prefer the religious, who just use a bunch of old books for reasons to murder.

Well, old reasons are always better than new reasons...

Speaking of which, is that shirt youre wearing made of more then one material?

[Dyakovo]

Yeah, I much prefer the religious, who just use a bunch of old books for reasons to murder.

Well, old reasons are always better than new reasons...

Speaking of which, is that shirt youre wearing made of more then one material?

Nope, I'm not wearing a shirt.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

If you hate scientists, then get off the internet, don't use electricity, don't take medication or bathe, stop using clean running water, plant and grow your own food, and don't drive a car or use any other modern transportation. What amongst those things is a "reson" [sic] for murder?

[Trve]

you see thats why i hate scientists and those who side with them all they do is invent new resons for murder.

If you hate scientists, then get off the internet, don't use electricity, don't take medication or bathe, stop using clean running water, plant and grow your own food, and don't drive a car or use any other modern transportation. What amongst those things is a "reson" [sic] for murder?

Those were all gifts from Gawd and had nothing to do with science. The only thing science does is fake global warming evidence and kill babies.

[Grave_n_idle]

Anything with breast tissue can lactate if the right hormones get to the breast tissue.

Ah, Dr House - is there ANYTHING you can't teach us?



I'm not the only one who saw that episode, right?

Haven't seen it or don't remember it. Please don't divulge anything more than season and episode number. I wanna see for myself!

I couldn't even tell you what season, my wife is the fan, really. And, I'll not tell you anymore, anyway, because I wouldn't want to give it away.

Just remember this conversation when you finally see it, and go "Oh, THAT's what he was talking about"