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Who Are You Voting For/Would Vote For?

Joe Biden
100
40%
RFK Jr.
16
6%
Joe Exotic
8
3%
Donald Trump
59
24%
Ron DeSantis
20
8%
Kanye West
10
4%
None, I Don't Have An Opinion
38
15%
 
Total votes : 251

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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Thu May 25, 2023 10:13 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Huh, I guess I'm a schizo.

Note: Self-derogatory, agreement may be moderator-actionable, IDK. Pls don't.

In all seriousness, no, I think you fallen for fake populism.

I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:14 am

La Xinga wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:In all seriousness, no, I think you fallen for fake populism.

I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?

Yes, Trump has a massive lead over DeSantis.

Trump will likely be the nominee.
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Postby Hispida » Thu May 25, 2023 10:14 am

La Xinga wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:In all seriousness, no, I think you fallen for fake populism.

I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?

yes.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 10:15 am

La Xinga wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:DeSatis is just a Trump who can make complete sentences.

And he has no chance against Trump unless he pushes to be his VP pick.

Why would you say that DeSantis is like Trump? DeSantis's personality is quite different than his, which I believe you can recognize as well.


They both use demagoguery for political gain. They both can’t handle people challenging their views. They are both rather vindictive people.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:17 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Why would you say that DeSantis is like Trump? DeSantis's personality is quite different than his, which I believe you can recognize as well.


They both use demagoguery for political gain. They both can’t handle people challenging their views. They are both rather vindictive people.

I definitely know TradCons don't care about morals.

It's about power. Morals only matter when they can be used to bash their opposition with them.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 10:17 am

Trump is going to destroy DeSantis and it's going to be very funny to watch.

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Emotional Support Crocodile
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu May 25, 2023 10:17 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?

Yes, Trump has a massive lead over DeSantis.

Trump will likely be the nominee.


Which is actually good, because DeSantis would be harder for Biden to beat.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 10:19 am

La Xinga wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:In all seriousness, no, I think you fallen for fake populism.

I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?


Yes. Trump is a better used car salesman then DeSantis. He knows how to stroke their hate.

DeSantis is going to face the challenge of not being Trump and yet be Trump to try and keep Trumps followers interested.

DeSantis doesn’t have the presence to win it…..well maybe if he wears the gogo boots.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Dimetrodon Empire
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:21 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
They both use demagoguery for political gain. They both can’t handle people challenging their views. They are both rather vindictive people.

I definitely know TradCons don't care about morals.

It's about power. Morals only matter when they can be used to bash their opposition with them.

To add onto this, this applies to the entire American right wing.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 10:22 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Yes, Trump has a massive lead over DeSantis.

Trump will likely be the nominee.


Which is actually good, because DeSantis would be harder for Biden to beat.

If DeSantis got the nomination, Trump's people would stay at home or try to voter fraud a Trump victory, so if anything that would be easier for Biden to win.

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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Thu May 25, 2023 10:25 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?

Yes, Trump has a massive lead over DeSantis.

Trump will likely be the nominee.

I'm referring to the general election.
The Black Forrest wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Why would you say that DeSantis is like Trump? DeSantis's personality is quite different than his, which I believe you can recognize as well.


They both use demagoguery for political gain. They both can’t handle people challenging their views. They are both rather vindictive people.

What's an example of DeSantis using demagoguery?
What's an example of DeSantis "not being able to handle people challenging his views"?
I don't think DeSantis is "vindictive". He has, so far, rarely responded to the attacks which Trump's been making on him.
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
They both use demagoguery for political gain. They both can’t handle people challenging their views. They are both rather vindictive people.

I definitely know TradCons don't care about morals.

I'm a "TradCon", and I have morals.
The Black Forrest wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I'm not a Populist at all, actually, just ya average TradCon!
Aside from that, in the general, I believe that DeSantis has a bigger chance than Trump. Does anyone doubt that at all?


Yes. Trump is a better used car salesman then DeSantis. He knows how to stroke their hate.

DeSantis is going to face the challenge of not being Trump and yet be Trump to try and keep Trumps followers interested.

DeSantis doesn’t have the presence to win it…..well maybe if he wears the gogo boots.

I am referring to the general.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 10:40 am

La Xinga wrote:I'm referring to the general election.
The Black Forrest wrote:
They both use demagoguery for political gain. They both can’t handle people challenging their views. They are both rather vindictive people.

What's an example of DeSantis using demagoguery?
What's an example of DeSantis "not being able to handle people challenging his views"?
I don't think DeSantis is "vindictive". He has, so far, rarely responded to the attacks which Trump's been making on him.


* His continued actions against Disney over their not supporting his “don’t say gay” laws.
* The fact he has to retaliate against them when they out maneuvered him.
* His efforts and comments against LGBTQ, black people, etc. Recently; he is working to cancel an AP course on Black Studies. All the “woke” comments.
* He once was walking past a couple college kids discussing the “don’t say gay” laws and he had to stop and argue with them. Not listen and respond…argue.
* He was also looking into replacing people who have stalled his desires.

Demagoguery is cheap politics. It avoids to having to commit to solving problems. It creates false issues for distraction.

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:I definitely know TradCons don't care about morals.

I'm a "TradCon", and I have morals.


Well?………….Morals is a dogwhistle in the political world. You will find people talking about how they are “moral” and will tell you they disagree with their elected official. Yet; you won’t find them telling that official to knock that shit off.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 25, 2023 10:42 am

Hispida wrote:i hope desantis wins the nomination (even though he won't) so trump cries and splits the vote it would be really funny


Yes. Blue Tsunami.

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Postby American Legionaries » Thu May 25, 2023 10:42 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Hispida wrote:i hope desantis wins the nomination (even though he won't) so trump cries and splits the vote it would be really funny


Yes. Blue Tsunami.


Yuck

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Postby American Legionaries » Thu May 25, 2023 10:43 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:I definitely know TradCons don't care about morals.

It's about power. Morals only matter when they can be used to bash their opposition with them.

To add onto this, this applies to the entire American right wing.


Can't protect one's morals without power.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu May 25, 2023 10:45 am

Is there a president who will follow the policy of Cleansing the Middle East and Balkans Completely from American Soldiers ? My vote would be for an anti militarism US president. I guess this doesn't seem possible.
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Postby Deacarsia » Thu May 25, 2023 10:45 am

I am voting for Donald Trump.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:47 am

Deacarsia wrote:I am voting for Donald Trump.

Yes, the man who lives like a moral Christian. :roll:
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 10:48 am

Deacarsia wrote:I am voting for Donald Trump.


You go girl. I am not!
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Floofybit » Thu May 25, 2023 10:50 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Kanye West all the way.

No, but seriously, my choices would probably be Trump, DeSantis, and, I actually don't know much about RFK jr. But even those choices kind of such. Here's to another year of terrible presidents!

Why would you, a gay furry, want DeSantis anywhere near a position of power?

I doubt I will. But I know I'm not voting for Biden
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:51 am

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why would you, a gay furry, want DeSantis anywhere near a position of power?

I doubt I will. But I know I'm not voting for Biden

You don't have to vote. Or you can vote third party.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 10:51 am

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why would you, a gay furry, want DeSantis anywhere near a position of power?

I doubt I will. But I know I'm not voting for Biden


Oh the protest vote of voting for someone who has no hope in hell of wining. Been done many times before…..
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 10:55 am

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why would you, a gay furry, want DeSantis anywhere near a position of power?

I doubt I will. But I know I'm not voting for Biden

So instead you'll vote for the guy who'd probably think that you're a Satanic paedophile.

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Postby La Xinga » Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I'm referring to the general election.
What's an example of DeSantis using demagoguery?
What's an example of DeSantis "not being able to handle people challenging his views"?
I don't think DeSantis is "vindictive". He has, so far, rarely responded to the attacks which Trump's been making on him.


* His continued actions against Disney over their not supporting his “don’t say gay” laws.
* The fact he has to retaliate against them when they out maneuvered him.
* His efforts and comments against LGBTQ, black people, etc. Recently; he is working to cancel an AP course on Black Studies. All the “woke” comments.
* He once was walking past a couple college kids discussing the “don’t say gay” laws and he had to stop and argue with them. Not listen and respond…argue.
* He was also looking into replacing people who have stalled his desires.

Demagoguery is cheap politics. It avoids to having to commit to solving problems. It creates false issues for distraction.

  • I'm happy that you at least put it in quotation marks, as that isn't the name of the bill and the bill has absolutely nothing to do with that. Regardless, what's the problem with that? Would you be against a governor who stripped special governing rights from a business which supported Nazism?
  • ^
  • Which comments did he say against LGBT people? Which comments did he say against black people? And yes, if a public school course is based on a side of the political spectrum, it should not be taught.
  • What's the problem with that?
  • Good? If people who I'm able to replace are not letting me do what I want to do, I'd replace them.
I'm a "TradCon", and I have morals.


Well?………….Morals is a dogwhistle in the political world. You will find people talking about how they are “moral” and will tell you they disagree with their elected official. Yet; you won’t find them telling that official to knock that shit off.

True, the right and the left have different views on what morality is.

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Postby American Legionaries » Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I doubt I will. But I know I'm not voting for Biden

So instead you'll vote for the guy who'd probably think that you're a Satanic paedophile.


I doubt Floofy has enough independent wealth to be seen by any presidential candidate as anything more than chaff to be discarded.

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