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Who Are You Voting For/Would Vote For?

Joe Biden
100
40%
RFK Jr.
16
6%
Joe Exotic
8
3%
Donald Trump
59
24%
Ron DeSantis
20
8%
Kanye West
10
4%
None, I Don't Have An Opinion
38
15%
 
Total votes : 251

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Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing
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Postby Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing » Thu May 25, 2023 9:08 am

Mearisse wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:I’m not a huge fan of Biden, but he’s not as horrible of a president as some people claim him to be. Trump and Desantis are both horrible people who will wreak havoc on America if they are elected, so let’s hope they aren’t.

You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.

Biden is awful, but a lot of the stuff that happened was either out of his control, or partially caused by trump. Biden still sucks tho, so does trump.
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Mearisse
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Postby Mearisse » Thu May 25, 2023 9:10 am

Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing wrote:
Mearisse wrote:You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.

Biden is awful, but a lot of the stuff that happened was either out of his control, or partially caused by trump. Biden still sucks tho, so does trump.

I agree but Biden allowed this to happen under his control. The border crisis for example, they completely ignore it but they just allow rapists, drug dealers, and traffickers through without blinking an eye and just allow them to dig roots in. I'm no fan of either candidate that we have here. We're just screwed either way and our enemies are slowly taking advantage of it.

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Postby Rusozak » Thu May 25, 2023 9:11 am

Mearisse wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:I’m not a huge fan of Biden, but he’s not as horrible of a president as some people claim him to be. Trump and Desantis are both horrible people who will wreak havoc on America if they are elected, so let’s hope they aren’t.

You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.


Because things were SO GREAT in 2020. I'll take some status quo career politician over the existential threat posed by the GOP.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 25, 2023 9:11 am

Incelastan wrote:
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Sherrod Brown is right there.


Is he running? I hadn't heard much about him lately. Still not sure if he's a moderate progressive or a progressive moderate.


No. Alas he is not. He should.

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Mearisse
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Postby Mearisse » Thu May 25, 2023 9:12 am

Rusozak wrote:
Mearisse wrote:You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.


Because things were SO GREAT in 2020. I'll take some status quo career politician over the existential threat posed by the GOP.

Not sure about you but life was much better before Biden took office compared to what we have now lol.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 25, 2023 9:25 am

Mearisse wrote:
Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing wrote:Biden is awful, but a lot of the stuff that happened was either out of his control, or partially caused by trump. Biden still sucks tho, so does trump.

I agree but Biden allowed this to happen under his control. The border crisis for example, they completely ignore it but they just allow rapists, drug dealers, and traffickers through without blinking an eye and just allow them to dig roots in. I'm no fan of either candidate that we have here. We're just screwed either way and our enemies are slowly taking advantage of it.


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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 9:25 am

It's amazing how divorced from reality the American right wing is.
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Postby The Dodo Republic » Thu May 25, 2023 9:33 am

Mearisse wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:I’m not a huge fan of Biden, but he’s not as horrible of a president as some people claim him to be. Trump and Desantis are both horrible people who will wreak havoc on America if they are elected, so let’s hope they aren’t.

You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.

Biden is nothing more then a crooked shell of a man who can lick his ice cream all he wants in a fucking nursing home. But oh wait hes in the oval office.

I am not old enough to determine when the downward spiral started but it was not Biden. The Obama admin wasnt great, then the best way I can describe Trump's was volatile. There was some good, some bad, a product of radiant populism, and then Biden came in and just tore the few threads that stuck well during the Trump admin and ripped them down. While Trump ruined his legitimacy in the process. Meanwhile in the muddy halls of Congress the establishment continued to act as the establishment. Republicans would then fumble the ball in the midterms because they caved into the evangelicals and put up the worst candidates possible.
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Postby The Dodo Republic » Thu May 25, 2023 9:37 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:It's amazing how divorced from reality the American right wing is.

As a "Right winger" in some regards I agree
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Postby Utquiagvik » Thu May 25, 2023 9:44 am

Mearisse wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Because things were SO GREAT in 2020. I'll take some status quo career politician over the existential threat posed by the GOP.

Not sure about you but life was much better before Biden took office compared to what we have now lol.

Covid is the main thing that turned this world into the upside down disaster it is now, and that started over a year before he was inaugurated. Covid isn’t Bidens fault.
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Postby Bradfordville » Thu May 25, 2023 9:50 am

Rusozak wrote:
Mearisse wrote:You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.


Because things were SO GREAT in 2020. I'll take some status quo career politician over the existential threat posed by the GOP.


Fun fact: the status quo and the disastrous world it created led to people like trump coming into power not just here but in many parts of the world. I'm not sure the solution to trump is to try and go back to the same old same old. It may temporarily relieve some pain, but in the long run it'll lead to someone coming along who makes trump look like John McCain by comparison.
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Postby Bradfordville » Thu May 25, 2023 9:51 am

Mearisse wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Because things were SO GREAT in 2020. I'll take some status quo career politician over the existential threat posed by the GOP.

Not sure about you but life was much better before Biden took office compared to what we have now lol.


Nah man, things were pretty messed up in 2020 before Biden was even elected president. Trump's last year was pretty much the man fumbling and being chaotic while the entire country fell down a garbage disposal.
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Postby Floofybit » Thu May 25, 2023 9:54 am

Kanye West all the way.

No, but seriously, my choices would probably be Trump, DeSantis, and, I actually don't know much about RFK jr. But even those choices kind of such. Here's to another year of terrible presidents!
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Postby La Xinga » Thu May 25, 2023 10:00 am

The United States already rejected a competition between Trump and Biden, and I see no reason to believe that they will change your vote. Thus, I'll support DeSantis.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:02 am

Floofybit wrote:Kanye West all the way.

No, but seriously, my choices would probably be Trump, DeSantis, and, I actually don't know much about RFK jr. But even those choices kind of such. Here's to another year of terrible presidents!

I have no idea how you can think Trump would be a good choice.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:03 am

La Xinga wrote:The United States already rejected a competition between Trump and Biden, and I see no reason to believe that they will change your vote. Thus, I'll support DeSantis.

DeSatis is just a Trump who can make complete sentences.

And he has no chance against Trump unless he pushes to be his VP pick.
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Postby Hispida » Thu May 25, 2023 10:04 am

i hope desantis wins the nomination (even though he won't) so trump cries and splits the vote it would be really funny
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Postby La Xinga » Thu May 25, 2023 10:05 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
La Xinga wrote:The United States already rejected a competition between Trump and Biden, and I see no reason to believe that they will change your vote. Thus, I'll support DeSantis.

DeSatis is just a Trump who can make complete sentences.

And he has no chance against Trump unless he pushes to be his VP pick.

Why would you say that DeSantis is like Trump? DeSantis's personality is quite different than his, which I believe you can recognize as well.

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Postby Existential Cats » Thu May 25, 2023 10:06 am

I will probably vote for Biden, or whomever the Green Party candidate is if Biden's lead is strong enough in my state.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:06 am

La Xinga wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:DeSatis is just a Trump who can make complete sentences.

And he has no chance against Trump unless he pushes to be his VP pick.

Why would you say that DeSantis is like Trump? DeSantis's personality is quite different than his, which I believe you can recognize as well.

He tries to emulate Trump and his mannerisms.

Not to mention that they share the same schizophrenic political outlook.
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Postby Galactic Powers » Thu May 25, 2023 10:07 am

Hispida wrote:i hope desantis wins the nomination (even though he won't) so trump cries and splits the vote it would be really funny

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Postby La Xinga » Thu May 25, 2023 10:07 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Why would you say that DeSantis is like Trump? DeSantis's personality is quite different than his, which I believe you can recognize as well.

He tries to emulate Trump and his mannerisms.

Not to mention that they share the same schizophrenic political outlook.

Huh, I guess I'm a schizo.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 10:09 am

La Xinga wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:He tries to emulate Trump and his mannerisms.

Not to mention that they share the same schizophrenic political outlook.

Huh, I guess I'm a schizo.

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In all seriousness, no, I think you fallen for fake populism.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu May 25, 2023 10:10 am

Floofybit wrote:Kanye West all the way.

No, but seriously, my choices would probably be Trump, DeSantis, and, I actually don't know much about RFK jr. But even those choices kind of such. Here's to another year of terrible presidents!

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 10:12 am

Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing wrote:
Mearisse wrote:You're blind, we weren't in this downward spiral till Biden entered the picture. He's an insult to Americans and that's been proven many times. Not to mention that opening speech of "Joe Bidens husband" and "They have good ice cream here" to address on the Tennessee shooting, that was just stupid and he needed the boot after that failure of a speech for a small example. We need a leader, not some stumbling decrepit old person.

Biden is awful, but a lot of the stuff that happened was either out of his control, or partially caused by trump. Biden still sucks tho, so does trump.


I do hear how Biden was awful often. I ask how and only a couple points if at all are mentioned. Usually it’s all talking head comments.

So out of curiosity; Do a bullet list for how he was awful….
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