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Who Are You Voting For/Would Vote For?

Joe Biden
100
40%
RFK Jr.
16
6%
Joe Exotic
8
3%
Donald Trump
59
24%
Ron DeSantis
20
8%
Kanye West
10
4%
None, I Don't Have An Opinion
38
15%
 
Total votes : 251

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The Rio Grande River Basin
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Wed May 31, 2023 8:49 am

Incelastan wrote:
Hispida wrote:i forgot he existed.


I wish that I could forget. He keeps reminding me with stunts like this.

Yeah, she has practically no chance, but she has a better shot than Chris Christie. Go Team Marianne Williamson! She's about the most palatable choice available right now, anyway.

You know who Chris Christie reminds me of? You seen Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies?
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Postby Maryland-Delaware » Wed May 31, 2023 9:53 am

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
I wish that I could forget. He keeps reminding me with stunts like this.

Yeah, she has practically no chance, but she has a better shot than Chris Christie. Go Team Marianne Williamson! She's about the most palatable choice available right now, anyway.

You know who Chris Christie reminds me of? You seen Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies?


That's very unkind....to Fat Bastard. Take that back! :lol:
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Wed May 31, 2023 10:17 am

Maryland-Delaware wrote:
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:You know who Chris Christie reminds me of? You seen Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies?


That's very unkind....to Fat Bastard. Take that back! :lol:

He’s the thin bastard now.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 31, 2023 11:18 am

Stylan wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:There is another reason. DeSantis does not bring in any new voters. His core support base and trumps are the same. What Trump needs, and what Pence provided is broadening the appeal. What does DeSantis bring that Trump does not?

I think DeSantis still has some more appealing factors to moderates, he is rhetorically much more reserved.

Dude has banned HRT in his state.

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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 31, 2023 11:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
Stylan wrote:I think DeSantis still has some more appealing factors to moderates, he is rhetorically much more reserved.

Dude has banned HRT in his state.


Given that polls indicate that most Americans consider a person's gender to be congruent with their sex assigned at birth, this is probably not likely to alienate a significant number of "moderates"

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Postby Umeria » Wed May 31, 2023 11:25 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Dude has banned HRT in his state.

Given that polls indicate that most Americans consider a person's gender to be congruent with their sex assigned at birth, this is probably not likely to alienate a significant number of "moderates"

It has in several prior elections though.
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Postby Pangurstan » Wed May 31, 2023 12:23 pm

Stylan wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:There is another reason. DeSantis does not bring in any new voters. His core support base and trumps are the same. What Trump needs, and what Pence provided is broadening the appeal. What does DeSantis bring that Trump does not?

I think DeSantis still has some more appealing factors to moderates, he is rhetorically much more reserved.

DeSantis doesn’t have the same energy as Trump and is too conservative on social security. He also doesn’t talk about anything other than culture war stuff.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Wed May 31, 2023 12:27 pm

Pangurstan wrote:
Stylan wrote:I think DeSantis still has some more appealing factors to moderates, he is rhetorically much more reserved.

DeSantis doesn’t have the same energy as Trump and is too conservative on social security. He also doesn’t talk about anything other than culture war stuff.

Also he’s demolished his reputation.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed May 31, 2023 2:14 pm

Incelastan wrote:


If there's a poster child for clueless GOP candidates who don't grasp that nobody wants them, it's Chris Christie.

I was gonna make a joke about 'everyone needs their own Beto O'Rourke' but at least Christie made it to the governorship.
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Postby The Grand Fifth Imperium » Wed May 31, 2023 4:10 pm

what about Mike Pence? Heard Indiana did fiscally well under his— gubernatorship? governership? governing?— what ever the word is. Maybe he could get Congress to do something about our HUGE national debt? But then again, he might be rather conservative for some moderates. Also probably a good candidate for the GOP cause the Dems can't blame him for 01/06.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed May 31, 2023 4:14 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:what about Mike Pence? Heard Indiana did fiscally well under his— gubernatorship? governership? governing?— what ever the word is. Maybe he could get Congress to do something about our HUGE national debt? But then again, he might be rather conservative for some moderates. Also probably a good candidate for the GOP cause the Dems can't blame him for 01/06.

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The Free French Republic wrote:As an American, I would like the government to lower spending and do something about our national debt. I think our government needs to have a party that will lower our debt.

Let me tell you about a certain Nicolae Ceausescu and how his strange obsession with killing Romania's national debt got his entire country bankrupt.


Humanity, including prime examples such as Britain and Japan has been trying this whole austerity nonsense for... lemme see... *digs up pocket watch*
42 years.
The Japanese economy hasn't returned to the bubble years and Britain has to deal with ever longer queues to soup kitchens.
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Postby L van Beethoven » Wed May 31, 2023 4:53 pm

Vote for Donald Trump because Joe Biden is a crazy old man who smells peoples hair and lives in a basement and Ron DeSantis is a hypocrite who gets teenage girls drunk and Joe Exotic is a crook and RFK is a shapeshifting lizard from Zeta Reticuli masquerading as a political moderate and Kanye West is Hitler's secret clone from the secret Nazi space base on the moon make America Great Again and get rid of the evil nazi space lizards!
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Postby La Xinga » Wed May 31, 2023 4:54 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:what about Mike Pence? Heard Indiana did fiscally well under his— gubernatorship? governership? governing?— what ever the word is. Maybe he could get Congress to do something about our HUGE national debt? But then again, he might be rather conservative for some moderates. Also probably a good candidate for the GOP cause the Dems can't blame him for 01/06.

He has zero charisma though.

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Postby Dakran » Wed May 31, 2023 5:53 pm

I don't think Pence has a snowballs chance in hell of being the Republican nominee on account of a significant chunk of the party and its supporters seeming to believe he's a traitor who ought to be hanged by the neck until death. Or other such things.
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Postby The Grand Fifth Imperium » Wed May 31, 2023 5:58 pm

Dakran wrote:I don't think Pence has a snowballs chance in hell of being the Republican nominee on account of a significant chunk of the party and its supporters seeming to believe he's a traitor who ought to be hanged by the neck until death. Or other such things.

I actually don't know a single Republican who holds to that belief. I'd say a lot of Republicans I know are rather annoyed at Trump's antics, and liked it when Pence kept his cool. (Especially the whole fly thing at the VP debate :lol:). But then again, being docile will get you trodden over in a presidential primary.

EDIT: I just had a funny idea. Someone tell Unmet Player that Mike Pence is the 21st century version of Calvin Coolidge :lol2:
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 31, 2023 6:10 pm

Stylan wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:There is another reason. DeSantis does not bring in any new voters. His core support base and trumps are the same. What Trump needs, and what Pence provided is broadening the appeal. What does DeSantis bring that Trump does not?

I think DeSantis still has some more appealing factors to moderates, he is rhetorically much more reserved.


Such as?

He is a wanker who only knows demagoguery for the issues.

Even now two of his ideas:

Student debt? The universities pick up the tab.

Military? Give back pay to any soldier who left because he refused the covid vaccines.
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Postby The Great Nevada Overlord » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:01 pm

Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!
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Postby Umeria » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:02 pm

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

I predict he'll have the highest media coverage to support ratio.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:02 pm


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Postby Fractalnavel » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:02 pm

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

When do we get a porn star option? Or did I miss that?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:03 pm

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

I'm still waiting for the candidacy of Herr Hitler here...

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Postby The Great Nevada Overlord » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:07 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

I'm still waiting for the candidacy of Herr Hitler here...

I have a bet on Hitler being resurrected this year so it looks like I'll get that 20.
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Postby El Lazaro » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:13 pm

Fractalnavel wrote:
The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

When do we get a porn star option? Or did I miss that?

Upon googling, a pornstar ran in 2020 with Coolio as her VP pick and a pro-wrestler as the security chief. Yes, the Gangsta’s Paradise Coolio.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:24 pm

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

Torn between wanting to see a former president running against his former VP in a debate when one of those persons is a complete fucking looney tune and not wanting to support the very spectacle that made that looney tune's rise possible.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Oop! Ringa-ding-ding!

Mikey Pence is (supposedly) runnin' for president!

So many oddballs are running, Kanye, Exotic, Pence. Where will the madness end?!

Torn between wanting to see a former president running against his former VP in a debate when one of those persons is a complete fucking looney tune and not wanting to support the very spectacle that made that looney tune's rise possible.


Maybe that fly will show up again and provide Pence moral support.
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