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Who Are You Voting For/Would Vote For?

Joe Biden
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40%
RFK Jr.
16
6%
Joe Exotic
8
3%
Donald Trump
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24%
Ron DeSantis
20
8%
Kanye West
10
4%
None, I Don't Have An Opinion
38
15%
 
Total votes : 251

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Postby American Legionaries » Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:I am voting for Donald Trump.

Yes, the man who lives like a moral Christian. :roll:


I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 11:12 am

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The Black Forrest wrote:
* His continued actions against Disney over their not supporting his “don’t say gay” laws.
* The fact he has to retaliate against them when they out maneuvered him.
* His efforts and comments against LGBTQ, black people, etc. Recently; he is working to cancel an AP course on Black Studies. All the “woke” comments.
* He once was walking past a couple college kids discussing the “don’t say gay” laws and he had to stop and argue with them. Not listen and respond…argue.
* He was also looking into replacing people who have stalled his desires.

Demagoguery is cheap politics. It avoids to having to commit to solving problems. It creates false issues for distraction.

  • I'm happy that you at least put it in quotation marks, as that isn't the name of the bill and the bill has absolutely nothing to do with that. Regardless, what's the problem with that? Would you be against a governor who stripped special governing rights from a business which supported Nazism?
  • ^


Actually; it sums up just fine. What problem did it address? A manufactured problem largely based on misrepresentation and outright lies.

Nazi’s seriously?

So what problems did Disney create having those special rights. I am waiting for the shock when the people get their tax increases for having to pay for the police, fire and power Disney was paying for.

  • Which comments did he say against LGBT people? Which comments did he say against black people? And yes, if a public school course is based on a side of the political spectrum, it should not be taught.


  • Do you even know what black studies involves? Do you even know what this effort is actually saving the kiddies from?

  • What's the problem with that?
  • .
    It wasn’t about the debate over the issues. It was an attempt to dominate those who did not embrace his views of LGBTQ people.

    As I have mentioned in the past; I didn’t like Scalia. I once went to a talk he gave. He did not try to dominate. He made his comments and offered defenses. Things I thought he was ass about; still managed to make me rethink some issues.

    DeSantis can’t do that. At best he would say I am “woke” and ignore.

  • Good? If people who I'm able to replace are not letting me do what I want to do, I'd replace them.


  • Not for doing their job. You like the idea of officals being “yes men” to the petty desires of a governor?


    Well?………….Morals is a dogwhistle in the political world. You will find people talking about how they are “moral” and will tell you they disagree with their elected official. Yet; you won’t find them telling that official to knock that shit off.

    True, the right and the left have different views on what morality is.


    We were talking about tradcons. What the left thinks is irrelevent.
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    Postby Urkennalaid » Thu May 25, 2023 11:13 am

    People really kinda vote US presidents just based on vibes.

    But yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't respect any person voting for anyone in the Republican party. Trump is a ghoul(although a hilarious one), Desantis is a ghoul thats not charismatic, they're all ghouls. Hell, the Democratic party is full of ghouls who strike down any left-leaning politician, but I'm not going to unironically vote for the GREEN PARTY or some unknown independent.
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    Postby American Legionaries » Thu May 25, 2023 11:14 am

    Urkennalaid wrote:People really kinda vote US presidents just based on vibes.

    But yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't respect any person voting for anyone in the Republican party. Trump is a ghoul(although a hilarious one), Desantis is a ghoul thats not charismatic, they're all ghouls. Hell, the Democratic party is full of ghouls who strike down any left-leaning politician, but I'm not going to unironically vote for the GREEN PARTY or some unknown independent.


    Don't be sorry for offering such relief.

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    Postby Floofybit » Thu May 25, 2023 11:25 am

    Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
    Floofybit wrote:I doubt I will. But I know I'm not voting for Biden

    You don't have to vote. Or you can vote third party.

    Maybe I'll just do that ..
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    Postby Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing » Thu May 25, 2023 11:33 am

    Here’s the problem

    Biden is not an option, he will probably die of stroke or something any day now.

    Trump is not an option either, because looking at Jan 6 we all know why, plus he is just an asshole to begin with.

    Desantis offers nothing of value outside the culture war, which any educated person knows that the culture war BS is just a distraction to get you angry so the corporations that own the news companies get more money.

    Vivek is crap for the same reason as Desantis, but to an increased degree.

    Bernie, yeah, no. Too old, literal socialist.

    Williamson is the best bet for the Democrats, she isn’t a fossil (yet) and she has actual policy positions.

    Nikki Haley imo is the best option for the GOP because she is a moderate and a lot of moderate republicans feel under represented with the amount of far right candidates that have been plaguing the GOP. TBH if I had to vote Republican I would vote for her.

    RFK jr, Antivaxxer idiot.

    Kanye, :rofl:


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    Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 11:35 am

    It's like people don't know that the US has well established protocols for dealing with a president dying in office.

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    Postby Urkennalaid » Thu May 25, 2023 11:36 am

    Ifreann wrote:It's like people don't know that the US has well established protocols for dealing with a president dying in office.


    It's happened plenty of times before.

    But let's be honest, if Biden dies and Kamala takes over, the Democratic party is never winning another election. No one likes Kamala. Not even Biden. He sends her on side quests to do...whatever.
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    Postby Floofybit » Thu May 25, 2023 11:36 am

    Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing wrote:He promises every American a free pony.

    Now I know who I'm voting tor
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    Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 11:37 am

    Urkennalaid wrote:
    Ifreann wrote:It's like people don't know that the US has well established protocols for dealing with a president dying in office.


    It's happened plenty of times before.

    But let's be honest, if Biden dies and Kamala takes over, the Democratic party is never winning another election. No one likes Kamala. Not even Biden. He sends her on side quests to do...whatever.

    March around the White House in front of a camera.

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    Postby Galactic Powers » Thu May 25, 2023 11:39 am

    Urkennalaid wrote:
    Ifreann wrote:It's like people don't know that the US has well established protocols for dealing with a president dying in office.


    It's happened plenty of times before.

    But let's be honest, if Biden dies and Kamala takes over, the Democratic party is never winning another election. No one likes Kamala. Not even Biden. He sends her on side quests to do...whatever.

    It is a legitimate worry that Biden might simply not be mentally fit for office - if not now, then by the end of his term if he wins potentially.

    Of course, Trump is mentally unfit in the sense that he just sucks.
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    Postby Hispida » Thu May 25, 2023 11:40 am

    Galactic Powers wrote:
    Urkennalaid wrote:
    It's happened plenty of times before.

    But let's be honest, if Biden dies and Kamala takes over, the Democratic party is never winning another election. No one likes Kamala. Not even Biden. He sends her on side quests to do...whatever.

    It is a legitimate worry that Biden might simply not be mentally fit for office - if not now, then by the end of his term if he wins potentially.

    i mean, reagan's still liked by quite a few people.
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    Postby Past beans » Thu May 25, 2023 11:42 am

    I've looked around the internet and whatnot and I can conclude something certain.

    America is fucked.
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    Postby Galactic Powers » Thu May 25, 2023 11:43 am

    Hispida wrote:
    Galactic Powers wrote:It is a legitimate worry that Biden might simply not be mentally fit for office - if not now, then by the end of his term if he wins potentially.

    i mean, reagan's still liked by quite a few people.

    He wasn’t ever diagnosed in office, although many people cite stories of gaffes and signs. His physicians continue to deny that he was ever potentially cognitively unfit for the role, if that’s worth anything.

    Were his slip ups ever as public as Biden’s?
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    Postby Hispida » Thu May 25, 2023 11:46 am

    Galactic Powers wrote:
    Hispida wrote:i mean, reagan's still liked by quite a few people.

    He wasn’t ever diagnosed in office, although many people cite stories of gaffes and signs. His physicians continue to deny that he was ever potentially cognitively unfit for the role, if that’s worth anything.

    Were his slip ups ever as public as Biden’s?

    the first 1984 debate comes to mind.
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    Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 25, 2023 11:52 am

    Ifreann wrote:It's like people don't know that the US has well established protocols for dealing with a president dying in office.


    It’s not like we have had to deal with it before…..oh wait…..
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    Postby Galactic Powers » Thu May 25, 2023 11:58 am

    Hispida wrote:
    Galactic Powers wrote:He wasn’t ever diagnosed in office, although many people cite stories of gaffes and signs. His physicians continue to deny that he was ever potentially cognitively unfit for the role, if that’s worth anything.

    Were his slip ups ever as public as Biden’s?

    the first 1984 debate comes to mind.

    Suppose that’s a good example, yeah.
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    Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Thu May 25, 2023 11:59 am

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    Vassenor wrote:Does Trump even have a platform to run on or is it just more BEHOLD YOUR GOD like last time?

    President Trumps Platform: Lower Taxes,

    if those taxes are suppoting good things, I’m against that. and also, the tax cuts were mostly for the rich and not most people.
    strong economy, […] low inflation,

    is anyone against this?
    oil, natural gas,

    why do you want more oil and national gas in use?
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    I live in pennsylvania and I’m against fracking.
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    how? repealing worker rights?
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    Postby Narland » Thu May 25, 2023 12:03 pm

    Vassenor wrote:Does Trump even have a platform to run on or is it just more BEHOLD YOUR GOD like last time?


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
    https://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm
    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2016-republican-party-platformFor 2020 the 2016 Platform was passed unchanged. The 2024 Platform will be out this year.

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    Postby Necroghastia » Thu May 25, 2023 12:04 pm

    Ugh, the "parents' rights" canard. we all know no one who says that actually believes in it.
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    Vassenor wrote:Does Trump even have a platform to run on or is it just more BEHOLD YOUR GOD like last time?


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
    https://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm
    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2016-republican-party-platformFor 2020 the 2016 Platform was passed unchanged. The 2024 Platform will be out this year.

    So that'll be a "no, he doesn't have anything" then.
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    Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Thu May 25, 2023 12:07 pm

    a Trump victory come 2024 is one of the worst outcomes we could face, maybe topped by a DeSantis presidency.

    Kanye would be even worse than Trump. luckily he doesn’t have a chance of winning.

    Biden is unpopular and on his way out. if he gets nominated he’ll probably have low odds of victory. the Democrats can keep counting on support for not being the Republicans, but how far can that alone get them?

    RFK Jr isn’t a Republican and he isn’t Biden but he’s also a bit of a wacko. I don’t think he has the base to win.
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    Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 12:07 pm

    The only time parent's rights are of any value to the American far-right is when certain parents want to exercise those "rights" to deprive transgender people of theirs.
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    Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 12:08 pm

    Narland wrote:
    Vassenor wrote:Does Trump even have a platform to run on or is it just more BEHOLD YOUR GOD like last time?


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
    https://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm
    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2016-republican-party-platformFor 2020 the 2016 Platform was passed unchanged. The 2024 Platform will be out this year.

    Fun fact, the 2016 platform is full of criticism of the President. So the official position of the GOP in 2020 was that "[t]he President has been regulating to death a free market economy that he does not like and does not understand. He defies the laws of the United States by refusing to enforce those with which he does not agree. And he appoints judges who legislate from the bench rather than apply the law."

    Which goes to show that the platform means nothing.

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    Postby American Legionaries » Thu May 25, 2023 12:15 pm

    Necroghastia wrote:Ugh, the "parents' rights" canard. we all know no one who says that actually believes in it.

    So that'll be a "no, he doesn't have anything" then.


    I mean, "snort blow off a washed up old porno actress while she lays on the Resolute Desk" is an upgrade at this point.
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    Postby Narland » Thu May 25, 2023 12:16 pm

    Ifreann wrote:

    Fun fact, the 2016 platform is full of criticism of the President. So the official position of the GOP in 2020 was that "[t]he President has been regulating to death a free market economy that he does not like and does not understand. He defies the laws of the United States by refusing to enforce those with which he does not agree. And he appoints judges who legislate from the bench rather than apply the law."

    Which goes to show that the platform means nothing.

    It goes to show that Trump has a platform (which it seems that radical Leftists continue to try portraying him as a knuckledragging neanderthal who is too stoopid to have one), and the GOP supporters of Trump have a Platform. In 2024 we will be drawing up a current National Platform.

    Trump is Reform Party and has brought most of that to the table. There are many differences between the two. However in areas where we agree Trump has been a champion for conservatism. At this point the Disestablishmentarians factions are ascendant and in coalition with each other. This is good for fiscal conservatives, and constitutional limited government types. Not so good for neoconservatives and establishment GOP.
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