Ukrainian War VI: Did you ever know...

[The Lone Alliance]

The majority of Republicans voted against the bill, which shows the ideological difference between the 2 parties.

Not really, 101 Republicans voted for the bill while 112 Republicans voted against. That's nearly a 50/50 split.

Problem is that those 101 Republicans just put a target on their backs by the MAGA crowd who truly believed that letting Russia slaughter Ukrainians was the best way to bully Democrats into closing the border, and now those 101 Republicans are "Traitors to the plan". Russia's going to be spending Big money against them now.

[The Apollonian Systems]

The majority of Republicans voted against the bill, which shows the ideological difference between the 2 parties.

Not really, 101 Republicans voted for the bill while 112 Republicans voted against. That's nearly a 50/50 split.

Problem is that those 101 Republicans just put a target on their backs by the MAGA crowd who truly believed that letting Russia slaughter Ukrainians was the best way to bully Democrats into closing the border, and now those 101 Republicans are "Traitors to the plan". Russia's going to be spending Big money against them now.

The GOP just needs to die at this point. They’ve already soiled their legacy so much at this point. Need a whole new party.

[The Lone Alliance]

Not really, 101 Republicans voted for the bill while 112 Republicans voted against. That's nearly a 50/50 split.

Problem is that those 101 Republicans just put a target on their backs by the MAGA crowd who truly believed that letting Russia slaughter Ukrainians was the best way to bully Democrats into closing the border, and now those 101 Republicans are "Traitors to the plan". Russia's going to be spending Big money against them now.

The GOP just needs to die at this point. They’ve already soiled their legacy so much at this point. Need a whole new party.

Problem is the GOP is essentially dead ideologically, it's why Trump was able to hijack the corpse of it and wear it like an ass in a lion skin. The scary thing is right now the fight is over what the "Whole New Party" is going to be, GOP Tea Party edition or the Cult of MAGA.

Neither which are better than the existing GOP.

[Turenia]

Some good news for once.

I knew it was going to pass when the usual Pro Russian "Conservative" sources started screaming and crying about how the United States was DOOMED DOOMED I SAY this 60 Billion to Ukraine was going to DESTROY THE US!!!!

It's all rather amusing to see how obviously they're controlled by the Kremlin.

I hate so much that so many conservatives have willfully dove into the pro-Russian camp.

[Tarsonis]

The majority of Republicans voted against the bill, which shows the ideological difference between the 2 parties.

More it shows the ideological split in the Republican party.

[The Two Jerseys]

Pro-Russian American blogger Russell Bentley, also known as "Texas" or the "Donbass Cowboy", got mistaken for a spy and was killed by his own side.

From what I've seen on Twitter, he was also apparently r**** before he was murdered. No confirmation yet on whether this is true.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Also the Russians seem to have a bad habit of sexually assaulting people so I wouldn’t be at all surprised that he was.

Apparently it's only homosexual if you kiss first or something...

[Welskerland]

Not really, 101 Republicans voted for the bill while 112 Republicans voted against. That's nearly a 50/50 split.

Problem is that those 101 Republicans just put a target on their backs by the MAGA crowd who truly believed that letting Russia slaughter Ukrainians was the best way to bully Democrats into closing the border, and now those 101 Republicans are "Traitors to the plan". Russia's going to be spending Big money against them now.

The GOP just needs to die at this point. They’ve already soiled their legacy so much at this point. Need a whole new party.

I think that's kinda the point. It's clear the party is too ideologically divided. MAGA is accelerationist. They wanna end the two party system. Initially, their plan was to win 2020 and watch the Democratic Party implode, but that didn't happen, so they decided to burn the GOP to ground and hope a new party rises from the ashes.

[Port Carverton]

The GOP just needs to die at this point. They’ve already soiled their legacy so much at this point. Need a whole new party.

Problem is the GOP is essentially dead ideologically, it's why Trump was able to hijack the corpse of it and wear it like an ass in a lion skin. The scary thing is right now the fight is over what the "Whole New Party" is going to be, GOP Tea Party edition or the Cult of MAGA.

Neither which are better than the existing GOP.

Maybe if it was big tent again instead of interventionists vs isolationists, it would be an actual party.

[New Visayan Islands]

And maybe we ought to keep to the topic on hand, as opposed to what seems to be an impending derail into American Politics? Food for thought.

New Visayan Islands
Game Moderator

[Phoeniae]

while I judge that press releases on russian state of the art, hi-tech airplanes to iran indicates stressed condition by part of russian regime (to sell definitive weapon is never by the book) we can not celebrate.

in my view, democrats and honest folks should maintain their wary attitude toward ‘fusion’ of fronts of war, russia, iran, china. the consolidation of war fronts is akways chimerical, and never brings good.

path to ‘lure’ administration and industry, discussion for european majors and america as well, into arsenal of democracy (russia ukraine) by the way to condede them returns (to escalate iran) is.. ensnared.

while maintainance of defensive war is good for itself, if democratics have to enlarge military-industrial complex for each lend lease to be accepted, at end ‘nato’ will thieve all parliamentary decisions.

the ‘tie them together’ (iran with russia, china with russia) and ‘compromise’ strategy has to be abandoned whenever possible. weapon plan to russia ukranian liberation stays ‘lame duck’ if without sanctions.

economic sanctions to the kremlin trust, with some form of embargo and until even to accept mild form of rations by part of sanctionist countries, is a necessity which alone coupled with weapons, can success.

without these sanctions I claim since begin, at each lately leand lease putin produces more, and moderates and military industry will forever cry for some more, never be convinced to primarily oppose putin.

to paint a slogan, we can say military path, when beyond survival, is always wasteful if not accompained by political path, and people too easely forget kasparov’s lesson: political path is ‘hit their wallets’.

[Herador]

So a ship was hit in Sevastapol and word is it's likely the Kommuna, no one's sure if she's sunk or just badly hit at the moment. Sad if true, that ship is 112 years old and still serving, she deserves better than her nation and crew. I'll try to dig up the video I saw earlier and post it as an edit.

E: Here's the video, he doesn't say it was the Kommuna, but reports have come out that the Kommuna was hit, so it seems to line up. I got the news links from Wikipedia sources though, so your mileage may vary.

[Theodorable]

So a ship was hit in Sevastapol and word is it's likely the Kommuna, no one's sure if she's sunk or just badly hit at the moment. Sad if true, that ship is 112 years old and still serving, she deserves better than her nation and crew. I'll try to dig up the video I saw earlier and post it as an edit.

That's unfortunate. 112 years of service is a miracle.

[Herador]

So a ship was hit in Sevastapol and word is it's likely the Kommuna, no one's sure if she's sunk or just badly hit at the moment. Sad if true, that ship is 112 years old and still serving, she deserves better than her nation and crew. I'll try to dig up the video I saw earlier and post it as an edit.

That's unfortunate. 112 years of service is a miracle.

In the video, it looks like her superstructure on the aft is on fire, though the steel rigs that cover the ship aren't visible so maybe they fell apart indicating much worse damage? It's hard to tell from the video since the quality is low and the view is obstructed. Hopefully, she can be saved and turned into a museum ship or something, she deserves so much better than this.

[Oceasia]

New poll on America sending weapons to Ukraine

"Should the US send weapons to..?"

Ukraine?
Dems: 74% Yes, 26% No
GOP: 39% Yes, 61% No
Independents: 50% Yes, 50% No
Overall: 53% Yes, 47% No

It's bad news that Independents are split on this issue, but Democrats are still holding strong. They really need to take back the House and retain the presidency for Ukraine aid to continue.

[Glorious Freedonia]

I knew it was going to pass when the usual Pro Russian "Conservative" sources started screaming and crying about how the United States was DOOMED DOOMED I SAY this 60 Billion to Ukraine was going to DESTROY THE US!!!!

It's all rather amusing to see how obviously they're controlled by the Kremlin.

I hate so much that so many conservatives have willfully dove into the pro-Russian camp.[/quote
Me too. I am an American conservative in the pro-Ukrainian camp. All Americans should be pro-Ukraine.

[Corrian]

New poll on America sending weapons to Ukraine

"Should the US send weapons to..?"

Ukraine?
Dems: 74% Yes, 26% No
GOP: 39% Yes, 61% No
Independents: 50% Yes, 50% No
Overall: 53% Yes, 47% No

It's bad news that Independents are split on this issue, but Democrats are still holding strong. They really need to take back the House and retain the presidency for Ukraine aid to continue.

26% of Democrats saying no is pretty high to be honest.

[Glorious Freedonia]

Good job Speaker of the House Mike Johnson! I think you should have done it a lot earlier. But at least you eventually did the right thing!

[The Apollonian Systems]

New poll on America sending weapons to Ukraine

"Should the US send weapons to..?"

Ukraine?
Dems: 74% Yes, 26% No
GOP: 39% Yes, 61% No
Independents: 50% Yes, 50% No
Overall: 53% Yes, 47% No

It's bad news that Independents are split on this issue, but Democrats are still holding strong. They really need to take back the House and retain the presidency for Ukraine aid to continue.

26% of Democrats saying no is pretty high to be honest.

Probably people like Chomsky.

[The Apollonian Systems]

I hate so much that so many conservatives have willfully dove into the pro-Russian camp.[/quote
Me too. I am an American conservative in the pro-Ukrainian camp. All Americans should be pro-Ukraine.

See that’s because your ideology isn’t dominated by “oppose anything the other party does” and/or “simp for foreign far right dictatorships”.

[Glorious Freedonia]

I hate so much that so many conservatives have willfully dove into the pro-Russian camp.[/quote
Me too. I am an American conservative in the pro-Ukrainian camp. All Americans should be pro-Ukraine.

See that’s because your ideology isn’t dominated by “oppose anything the other party does” and/or “simp for foreign far right dictatorships”.

Right. I do not get Putin's appeal at all.

[Theodorable]

See that’s because your ideology isn’t dominated by “oppose anything the other party does” and/or “simp for foreign far right dictatorships”.

Right. I do not get Putin's appeal at all.

The answer is simple.
As you can see from this graph, Putin is based gigachad trad anti-furry action little dark age phonk edit gemerald, which means he is good and should be supported. But Zelensky, is cringe coal Jewish soyjak furry gay (bad because not trad), which means he is bad and should not be supported.

I hope you understood!

[Glorious Freedonia]

Right. I do not get Putin's appeal at all.

The answer is simple.
As you can see from this graph, Putin is based gigachad trad anti-furry action little dark age phonk edit gemerald, which means he is good and should be supported. But Zelensky, is cringe coal Jewish soyjak furry gay (bad because not trad), which means he is bad and should not be supported.

I hope you understood!

My brain hurts now.

[Bears Armed]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Also the Russians seem to have a bad habit of sexually assaulting people so I wouldn’t be at all surprised that he was.

Apparently it's only homosexual if you kiss first or something...

Maybe they use the classical Roman definition_ It's only shameful if you're the one who gets penetrated, not if you're the [dominating] penetrator.

[Port Carverton]

The answer is simple.
As you can see from this graph, Putin is based gigachad trad anti-furry action little dark age phonk edit gemerald, which means he is good and should be supported. But Zelensky, is cringe coal Jewish soyjak furry gay (bad because not trad), which means he is bad and should not be supported.

I hope you understood!

My brain hurts now.

For non-brainroted non-zoomers:
Putin is a brave Orthodox traditionalist leading Russia against the degenerate west, while Zelensky is a liberal Jew who is a dud.

[Europa Undivided]

They just saw Putin shirtless riding a bear and all thoughts left the room