Calls for violence against LGBTQ people intensify

[Rusozak]

... is sadly only going to get worse, especially in the United States.

Much, much worse before it gets better, I fear.

That is up to the people who currently remain uninvolved in the situation. Shall they take initiative and stand up to it now, or wait until their head is on the chopping block or they see something from the transphobes that truly horrifies them? I'm not an optimist.

[Saiwana]

Broadly speaking, I don't like Trans as a concept because what I see is not what I'd get. It is deception at best. I can't abide by such complications. I'm glad I'm not the only one who believes what is going on is wrong. If the people who don't like what the likes of Budweiser and Target are selling are in the majority, there is hope yet to be had. The LGBT lobbies shall not win in the end.

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Broadly speaking, I don't like Trans as a concept because what I see is not what I'd get. It is deception at best. I can't abide by such complications. I'm glad I'm not the only one who believes what is going on is wrong. If the people who don't like what the likes of Budweiser and Target are selling are in the majority, there is hope yet to be had. The LGBT lobbies shall not win in the end.

So you think this is going to be the one time when reactionaries are on the right side of history?

[Vassenor]

Broadly speaking, I don't like Trans as a concept because what I see is not what I'd get. It is deception at best. I can't abide by such complications. I'm glad I'm not the only one who believes what is going on is wrong. If the people who don't like what the likes of Budweiser and Target are selling are in the majority, there is hope yet to be had. The LGBT lobbies shall not win in the end.

So basically the entire species needs to align itself around your wants and desires?

[Point Blob]

i think it's kind of funny that you say "public enemy #1 is literally collectivism" when the society of star trek is, quite literally, communist.

Almost all we see of communities in Star Trek are the crew of exploration ships... and those have a chain of command and specialisation. They're quite blatantly not communist.
The Borg, meanwhile...
Most of the planetside stuff just works somehow. Probably because post-scarcity.

So basically the entire species needs to align itself around your wants and desires?

That is kinda ironic.

Broadly speaking, I don't like Trans as a concept because what I see is not what I'd get. It is deception at best. I can't abide by such complications.

When I tell people "I'm a cat", they mostly just ignore me, which is fine. I don't need their agreement.
If I DID need their agreement and kept insisting on getting it, they'd probably just get hostile in return... so I obviously don't do that. People don't like being obligated to change their ways for the sake of things they don't agree with. And if one's quality of life relies on forcing people to change their ways... well... good luck with that.

[Necroghastia]

Oh, great. Another joker who thinks they're making a huge point by likening identifying as another gender to identifying as another goddamn species. Geee whizzzz, never heard THAT one before. And, really? "Change their ways?" What ways are being changed, exactly? Do they not already use others' preferred pronouns in basic day to day life? Just because a person is cis doesn't mean the pronouns stop being preferred ones.

[Point Blob]

Oh, great. Another joker who thinks they're making a huge point by likening identifying as another gender to identifying as another goddamn species. Geee whizzzz, never heard THAT one before. And, really? "Change their ways?" What ways are being changed, exactly? Do they not already use others' preferred pronouns in basic day to day life? Just because a person is cis doesn't mean the pronouns stop being preferred ones.

Originality =/= Accuracy.
And pronouns? That is primarily an issue with English and associated derivatives like Murican. Plenty of languages don't even have gendered pronouns... and on the flipside, a fair few are grammatically gendered (English used to be, but isn't any more), which makes things even more convoluted. Assigning all sorts of importance to a quirk of the medium is kinda silly.
Wouldn't imagine most people pay any heed to "preferred pronouns". They just choose pronouns based on physical cues. Whether they're preferred or not isn't even considered.


Wasn't joking by the way. When I'm not being a slime on NS, I'm generally being a cat... in as much as one can be. But enough about me. I'm not important.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Oh, great. Another joker who thinks they're making a huge point by likening identifying as another gender to identifying as another goddamn species. Geee whizzzz, never heard THAT one before. And, really? "Change their ways?" What ways are being changed, exactly? Do they not already use others' preferred pronouns in basic day to day life? Just because a person is cis doesn't mean the pronouns stop being preferred ones.

Originality =/= Accuracy.
And pronouns? That is primarily an issue with English and associated derivatives like Murican. Plenty of languages don't even have gendered pronouns... and on the flipside, a fair few are grammatically gendered (English used to be, but isn't any more), which makes things even more convoluted. Assigning all sorts of importance to a quirk of the medium is kinda silly.
Wouldn't imagine most people pay any heed to "preferred pronouns". They just choose pronouns based on physical cues. Whether they're preferred or not isn't even considered.


Wasn't joking by the way. When I'm not being a slime on NS, I'm generally being a cat... in as much as one can be. But enough about me. I'm not important.

It was stupid the first time someone trotted it out, now it's stupid and worn-out. But, if your point was that you never had one, you've succeeded.

[Ifreann]

Bit of the ol' terrorism. Target being targetted for bomb threats after various far-right agitators have made them out to be Satanic pro-LGBTQ groomers. Same thing that happens to breweries and children's hospitals and schools.

[Necroghastia]

Bit of the ol' terrorism. Target being targetted for bomb threats after various far-right agitators have made them out to be Satanic pro-LGBTQ groomers. Same thing that happens to breweries and children's hospitals and schools.

And the worst part is, it's working. Party of free speech and anti-censorship, right?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I "congratulate" the American political establishment on their succesful dissolution of the American civil society.

[Ifreann]

Bit of the ol' terrorism. Target being targetted for bomb threats after various far-right agitators have made them out to be Satanic pro-LGBTQ groomers. Same thing that happens to breweries and children's hospitals and schools.

And the worst part is, it's working. Party of free speech and anti-censorship, right?

Well, Target has little option other than to give in. I mean, it's not like they're a massive corporation with huge amounts of money.

*pretending to have an earpiece*

I'm being told that they're actually just fucking cowards.

[Juansonia]

Target being targetted

As funny as it is distressing.

[Saiwana]

The corporations are in the wrong if they're promoting LGBT but the majority of their customer base doesn't approve. They can make amends by knowing their role and get back to focusing on what will get them more revenues/profit. Some money has to be left untapped if pursuing it will get them a greater loss.

[Ifreann]

The corporations are in the wrong if they're promoting LGBT but the majority of their customer base doesn't approve. They can make amends by knowing their role and get back to focusing on what will get them more revenues/profit. Some money has to be left untapped if pursuing it will get them a greater loss.

Corporations have done the maths, obviously, and trying to seem inclusive is where the money is. Most people like at least the appearance of tolerance and equality. It is a small cohort of terrorists changing the calculus.

[Vassenor]

The corporations are in the wrong if they're promoting LGBT but the majority of their customer base doesn't approve. They can make amends by knowing their role and get back to focusing on what will get them more revenues/profit. Some money has to be left untapped if pursuing it will get them a greater loss.

So you support cancel culture then?

[Rusozak]

And the worst part is, it's working. Party of free speech and anti-censorship, right?

Well, Target has little option other than to give in. I mean, it's not like they're a massive corporation with huge amounts of money.

*pretending to have an earpiece*

I'm being told that they're actually just fucking cowards.

I have a feeling Right wing violence making Pride unprofitable is going to show a lot of rainbow capitalists where their heart lies this June.

[Cannot think of a name]

The corporations are in the wrong if they're promoting LGBT but the majority of their customer base doesn't approve. They can make amends by knowing their role and get back to focusing on what will get them more revenues/profit. Some money has to be left untapped if pursuing it will get them a greater loss.

Corporations have done the maths, obviously, and trying to seem inclusive is where the money is. Most people like at least the appearance of tolerance and equality. It is a small cohort of terrorists changing the calculus.

Remember when 'libertarians' used that to insist that we didn't need anti-discrimination laws because businesses would naturally go for tolerance and people pointed to history and they said "Nah, that wouldn't happen again..."?

[Port Caverton]

Well, Target has little option other than to give in. I mean, it's not like they're a massive corporation with huge amounts of money.

*pretending to have an earpiece*

I'm being told that they're actually just fucking cowards.

I have a feeling Right wing violence making Pride unprofitable is going to show a lot of rainbow capitalists where their heart lies this June.

Pink Capitalism was always to make a quick buck from white progressives. Of course corporations would give up on it if it's unprofitable for them.

[Rusozak]

I have a feeling Right wing violence making Pride unprofitable is going to show a lot of rainbow capitalists where their heart lies this June.

Pink Capitalism was always to make a quick buck from white progressives. Of course corporations would give up on it if it's unprofitable for them.

They'll lose the pretense at least, and not so many will be fooled by the insincere virtue signaling.

[The Black Forrest]

Ahh Wanda Sykes:

“Until a drag queen walks into a school and beats eight kids to death with a copy of ‘To Kill A Mockingbird’, I think you’re focusing on the wrong shit.”

[Bradfordville]

Bit of the ol' terrorism. Target being targetted for bomb threats after various far-right agitators have made them out to be Satanic pro-LGBTQ groomers. Same thing that happens to breweries and children's hospitals and schools.

Is anything more "cancel culture" than calling in a bomb threat to a store because they sold a book that had ideas you disagreed with?

[Ryemarch]

Bit of the ol' terrorism. Target being targetted for bomb threats after various far-right agitators have made them out to be Satanic pro-LGBTQ groomers. Same thing that happens to breweries and children's hospitals and schools.

Is anything more "cancel culture" than calling in a bomb threat to a store because they sold a book that had ideas you disagreed with?

Silly rabbit, it's not cancel culture when Republicans do it! /s

[Des-Bal]

Is anything more "cancel culture" than calling in a bomb threat to a store because they sold a book that had ideas you disagreed with?

Wait a minute people can shoot back? That's hypocrisy.

Deja Vu.

[Kerwa]

And the worst part is, it's working. Party of free speech and anti-censorship, right?

Well, Target has little option other than to give in. I mean, it's not like they're a massive corporation with huge amounts of money.

*pretending to have an earpiece*

I'm being told that they're actually just fucking cowards.

The bomb threat came from a pro LGBT group. What do you suggest they should do to stand up to it?