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Postby Necroghastia » Thu May 25, 2023 6:40 pm

Point Blob wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:...Who wants "special" attention?

A number of people somewhere between "too many" and "way too many".

Surely enough to point out who you mean, then.
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Postby Point Blob » Thu May 25, 2023 6:52 pm

Necroghastia wrote:Surely enough to point out who you mean, then.

Did you miss the part where I generally ignore people unless I'm forced otherwise? Just because someone is being a nuisance doesn't mean I'll remember anything about them besides them being a nuisance 5 minutes later. I doubt I could tell you much about them even if I wanted to, as I just don't care enough to remember it.
I have no idea who you are, for instance. I know absolutely nothing about you, but it isn't stopping me replying to you.


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Postby Neu California » Thu May 25, 2023 7:04 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:2023, where "treat us like human beings with equal rights to you" is "authoritarian"

2023, where people want to be treated like something, but I'd rather just ignore them, because giving people special attention is a hassle, and I don't really give a toss about them (though I wish they'd be quieter because their noise is bothersome).

If the conservative voices would stop trying to dehumanize them, and deny them their rights, and instead we treated them like normal people in general, then you wouldn't have to hear about them all the time. [Edit] You hear about them because they have to fight to be accepted. Would you say that the civil rights campaigners should have stopped in the sixties because you found them bothersome and could otherwise care less about them?[/edit]

(BTW, my flag was chosen mostly to annoy homophobes. I consider myself very much an ally to LGBT+ individuals)
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Postby Hispida » Thu May 25, 2023 7:08 pm

Point Blob wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:2023, where "treat us like human beings with equal rights to you" is "authoritarian"

2023, where people want to be treated like something, but I'd rather just ignore them, because giving people special attention is a hassle, and I don't really give a toss about them (though I wish they'd be quieter because their noise is bothersome).

ah, yes.

"1963, where people want to be treated like something, but I'd rather just ignore them, because giving people special attention is a hassle, and I don't really give a toss about them (though I wish they'd be quieter because their noise is bothersome)."
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Postby Point Blob » Thu May 25, 2023 7:20 pm

Neu California wrote:If the conservative voices would stop trying to dehumanize them, and deny them their rights, and instead we treated them like normal people in general, then you wouldn't have to hear about them all the time.

True, but that has nothing to do with me. Sexuality has never been a factor in how I personally treat people. However, I hate collectivism. And when people start gathering together and making a ruckus about just about anything, I'll start grumbling and waving my walking stick. Not that I have any particular investment in things staying the same even... as long as all the stuff can be dealt with quietly and efficiently, preferably without me even being aware of it.
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(BTW, my flag was chosen mostly to annoy homophobes. I consider myself very much an ally to LGBT+ individuals)

Okay. Neat. Honestly, I prefer random pictures to serious flags. Normal flags are boring.

Hispida wrote:ah, yes.

"1963,

No. Not 1963. 2023. We already covered this.
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Postby Nilokeras » Thu May 25, 2023 7:30 pm

'I don't use pronouns because I was hit several times on the head really hard and now the world is just a swirling sea of interchangeable faces that I cannot form any attachment to other than annoyance, are you my wife I miss her'

is certainly a novel excuse, as far as these things go, I'll give it that
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Postby Dreria » Thu May 25, 2023 7:31 pm

Nilokeras wrote:'I don't use pronouns because I was hit several times on the head really hard and now the world is just a swirling sea of interchangeable faces that I cannot form any attachment to other than annoyance, are you my wife I miss her'

is certainly a novel excuse, as far as these things go, I'll give it that

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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 25, 2023 7:36 pm

Dreria wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:'I don't use pronouns because I was hit several times on the head really hard and now the world is just a swirling sea of interchangeable faces that I cannot form any attachment to other than annoyance, are you my wife I miss her'

is certainly a novel excuse, as far as these things go, I'll give it that

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 7:37 pm

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Dreria wrote:disco elysium

No, that’s a cartoon drawing of Karl Marx, but it’s an understandable mix-up

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Postby Hispida » Thu May 25, 2023 7:52 pm

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No. Not 1963. 2023. We already covered this.

it's the same struggle, just over gender identity instead of racial identity.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 25, 2023 7:59 pm

Nilokeras wrote:The moral of this story: there are always kapos out there who think they can try and convince the camp commandants to treat us all fairly. It never works.

I like this analogy, because its so accurate.
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Postby Imperiul romanum » Fri May 26, 2023 1:31 am

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Fahran wrote:I feel like disliking all LGBT+ people because a single guy may have sexually harassed you, while understandable as a trauma response, is about as valid as an argument that I’m justified in disliking all straight men because I began getting cat-called by much older men beginning in middle school.


Eh? What country was that? Cat calling middle schoolers would get you into problems here…..

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Postby Cerespasia » Fri May 26, 2023 1:41 am

People who use religion against the LGBT community are the worst type of homophobe out there. I attended the Friday prayer today at my local mosque, and the lecture was regarding the LGBT community, where the Ustadz delivering said lecture was dehumanizing them, claiming that those people could spell the end of the human race. I'll spare you the worst of it, but all you need to know is that he opened up the lecture with info about a Coldplay tour in Indonesia.

Why the fuck can't we all just get along?
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Postby Imperiul romanum » Fri May 26, 2023 1:44 am

Cerespasia wrote:People who use religion against the LGBT community are the worst type of homophobe out there. I attended the Friday prayer today at my local mosque, and the lecture was regarding the LGBT community, where the Ustadz delivering said lecture was dehumanizing them, claiming that those people could spell the end of the human race. I'll spare you the worst of it, but all you need to know is that he opened up the lecture with info about a Coldplay tour in Indonesia.

Why the fuck can't we all just get along?

I agree this, is too much: THE END OF THE WORLD!....like this
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Postby Point Blob » Fri May 26, 2023 2:48 am

Cerespasia wrote:Why the fuck can't we all just get along?

Because this sadly isn't Star Trek... where humanity is generally enlightened, race and sexuality aren't important, and horrible things like religion and capitalism are bizarre alien quirks that have long since become obsolete for humanity... and public enemy #1 is literally collectivism in its purest form.


[Edit]: Also where the biggest problems are all happening hundreds of light years away and are absolutely someone else's problem, so it is easier to pretend they don't exist.
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Postby Hispida » Fri May 26, 2023 8:38 am

Point Blob wrote:
Cerespasia wrote:Why the fuck can't we all just get along?

Because this sadly isn't Star Trek... where humanity is generally enlightened, race and sexuality aren't important, and horrible things like religion and capitalism are bizarre alien quirks that have long since become obsolete for humanity... and public enemy #1 is literally collectivism in its purest form.


[Edit]: Also where the biggest problems are all happening hundreds of light years away and are absolutely someone else's problem, so it is easier to pretend they don't exist.

i think it's kind of funny that you say "public enemy #1 is literally collectivism" when the society of star trek is, quite literally, communist.
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Postby Juansonia » Fri May 26, 2023 9:08 am

Hispida wrote:
Point Blob wrote:Because this sadly isn't Star Trek... where humanity is generally enlightened, race and sexuality aren't important, and horrible things like religion and capitalism are bizarre alien quirks that have long since become obsolete for humanity... and public enemy #1 is literally collectivism in its purest form.
[Edit]: Also where the biggest problems are all happening hundreds of light years away and are absolutely someone else's problem, so it is easier to pretend they don't exist.
i think it's kind of funny that you say "public enemy #1 is literally collectivism" when the society of star trek is, quite literally, communist.
Communism is hyperindividualist compared to that one "public enemy #1" in particular.

edit: Hispida when the borg isn't a communist society:
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Fri May 26, 2023 9:49 am

Hispida wrote:
Point Blob wrote:Because this sadly isn't Star Trek... where humanity is generally enlightened, race and sexuality aren't important, and horrible things like religion and capitalism are bizarre alien quirks that have long since become obsolete for humanity... and public enemy #1 is literally collectivism in its purest form.


[Edit]: Also where the biggest problems are all happening hundreds of light years away and are absolutely someone else's problem, so it is easier to pretend they don't exist.

i think it's kind of funny that you say "public enemy #1 is literally collectivism" when the society of star trek is, quite literally, communist.

The economics of Star Trek are egalitarian and certainly left wing, but I don't think they're communist. More like just the byproduct of a vague post-scarcity outcome.

But even if it is communist, "collectivism in its purist form" is a reference to the Borg, which communism has nothing on.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Fri May 26, 2023 9:57 am

Point Blob wrote:
Cerespasia wrote:Why the fuck can't we all just get along?

Because this sadly isn't Star Trek... where humanity is generally enlightened, race and sexuality aren't important, and horrible things like religion and capitalism are bizarre alien quirks that have long since become obsolete for humanity... and public enemy #1 is literally collectivism in its purest form.


[Edit]: Also where the biggest problems are all happening hundreds of light years away and are absolutely someone else's problem, so it is easier to pretend they don't exist.

I have heard people say that we're pretty much living in the mirror universe.

Obviously not literally, but it expresses the sentiment that any such outcome in our future is going to be more like the Terran Empire than anything else. And I cannot say that I disagree with that.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri May 26, 2023 10:54 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Point Blob wrote:Because this sadly isn't Star Trek... where humanity is generally enlightened, race and sexuality aren't important, and horrible things like religion and capitalism are bizarre alien quirks that have long since become obsolete for humanity... and public enemy #1 is literally collectivism in its purest form.


[Edit]: Also where the biggest problems are all happening hundreds of light years away and are absolutely someone else's problem, so it is easier to pretend they don't exist.

I have heard people say that we're pretty much living in the mirror universe.

Obviously not literally, but it expresses the sentiment that any such outcome in our future is going to be more like the Terran Empire than anything else. And I cannot say that I disagree with that.


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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Fri May 26, 2023 11:03 am

IDK, maybe.
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Postby Ryemarch » Fri May 26, 2023 11:14 am

The line between the Riker beard and the Evil Spock beard is a thin one.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 26, 2023 12:15 pm

So violence….
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Fri May 26, 2023 12:42 pm

Neutraligon wrote:So violence….

... is sadly only going to get worse, especially in the United States.
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Postby Ryemarch » Fri May 26, 2023 12:50 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:So violence….

... is sadly only going to get worse, especially in the United States.

Much, much worse before it gets better, I fear.
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