Calls for violence against LGBTQ people intensify

[Eden Ultima]

Are we really supposed to believe that the reason more people are admitting to being gay or bisexual or Trans is because kids just one day decided to do it to be cool (which doesn't make sense in a country where LGBT people are regularly harassed or even murdered), and not because there were millions of LGBT people in 1876 that didn't tell anyone about it because it was literally illegal back then? This is like repealing Islamic law in Iran and then being shocked when millions of people admit to being atheists.

I think Iwas pretty clear on my opinion. Adults can choose to die, but for t hose under the age of 18, they must be defended. MUST. For the adults, we can choose to die. My suggestion is for those above the age of 18 to choose to be killed and not retaliate.
Yes. death is evil. But if your weaker party and they are the majority, it is the only option you have

[Ifreann]

Are we really supposed to believe that the reason more people are admitting to being gay or bisexual or Trans is because kids just one day decided to do it to be cool (which doesn't make sense in a country where LGBT people are regularly harassed or even murdered), and not because there were millions of LGBT people in 1876 that didn't tell anyone about it because it was literally illegal back then? This is like repealing Islamic law in Iran and then being shocked when millions of people admit to being atheists.

I think Iwas pretty clear on my opinion. Adults can choose to die, but for t hose under the age of 18, they must be defended. MUST. For the adults, we can choose to die. My suggestion is for those above the age of 18 to choose to be killed and not retaliate.
Yes. death is evil. But if your weaker party and they are the majority, it is the only option you have

It isn't, though.

[Floofybit]

Are we really supposed to believe that the reason more people are admitting to being gay or bisexual or Trans is because kids just one day decided to do it to be cool (which doesn't make sense in a country where LGBT people are regularly harassed or even murdered), and not because there were millions of LGBT people in 1876 that didn't tell anyone about it because it was literally illegal back then? This is like repealing Islamic law in Iran and then being shocked when millions of people admit to being atheists.

I think Iwas pretty clear on my opinion. Adults can choose to die, but for t hose under the age of 18, they must be defended. MUST. For the adults, we can choose to die. My suggestion is for those above the age of 18 to choose to be killed and not retaliate.
Yes. death is evil. But if your weaker party and they are the majority, it is the only option you have

Suicide is seldom the right option.

[American Legionaries]

Addressed in the gun control thread.



Yeah no one would ever do anything go against the grain especially not young people.

It's an extraordinary claim to believe that all these kids are just lying about their sexual orientation. Seems more likely to me that there was just a lot of people in the old days who were hiding their real feelings, but people don't have to do that as much anymore.

Sexual orientation, no. But modern gender theory basically tells us that incident rates are increasing, and will continue to do so.

[Ifreann]

It's an extraordinary claim to believe that all these kids are just lying about their sexual orientation. Seems more likely to me that there was just a lot of people in the old days who were hiding their real feelings, but people don't have to do that as much anymore.

Sexual orientation, no. But modern gender theory basically tells us that incident rates are increasing, and will continue to do so.

Yes, modern gender theory tells us that gender is contagious. If you spend a lot of time with someone, you'll catch their gender. Like how married couples all wind up the same gender after about ten years.

[Stellar Colonies]

Are we really supposed to believe that the reason more people are admitting to being gay or bisexual or Trans is because kids just one day decided to do it to be cool (which doesn't make sense in a country where LGBT people are regularly harassed or even murdered), and not because there were millions of LGBT people in 1876 that didn't tell anyone about it because it was literally illegal back then? This is like repealing Islamic law in Iran and then being shocked when millions of people admit to being atheists.

I think Iwas pretty clear on my opinion. Adults can choose to die, but for t hose under the age of 18, they must be defended. MUST. For the adults, we can choose to die. My suggestion is for those above the age of 18 to choose to be killed and not retaliate.
Yes. death is evil. But if your weaker party and they are the majority, it is the only option you have

That’s not a rational course of action.

[American Legionaries]

Sexual orientation, no. But modern gender theory basically tells us that incident rates are increasing, and will continue to do so.

Yes, modern gender theory tells us that gender is contagious. If you spend a lot of time with someone, you'll catch their gender. Like how married couples all wind up the same gender after about ten years.

Likening a person's gender identity to a disease is bad, and you should stop it.

[Poliski]

Yes, modern gender theory tells us that gender is contagious. If you spend a lot of time with someone, you'll catch their gender. Like how married couples all wind up the same gender after about ten years.

Likening a person's gender identity to a disease is bad, and you should stop it.

m8 he was joking

[Ifreann]

Likening a person's gender identity to a disease is bad, and you should stop it.

m8 he was joking

He knows what I was doing.

[Farnhamia]

im so happy

*** Warned for trolling ***

[American Legionaries]

Likening a person's gender identity to a disease is bad, and you should stop it.

m8 he was joking

I sincerely doubt that.

[The Black Forrest]

Likening a person's gender identity to a disease is bad, and you should stop it.

m8 he was joking

He likes to say things like that…..

[Poliski]

m8 he was joking

I sincerely doubt that.

"Like how married couples all wind up the same gender after about ten years" <-----

[The Swaggerlands]

SIncerely convinced queer people in general but especially trans people are the target for an impending genocide in the U.S., many people have commented before on how the rhetoric used against trans people by Republicans mirrors the preceding stages of a genocide.

[Democratic Poopland]

SIncerely convinced queer people in general but especially trans people are the target for an impending genocide in the U.S., many people have commented before on how the rhetoric used against trans people by Republicans mirrors the preceding stages of a genocide.

This means one and only one thing only.

[Bradfordville]

Are we really supposed to believe that the reason more people are admitting to being gay or bisexual or Trans is because kids just one day decided to do it to be cool (which doesn't make sense in a country where LGBT people are regularly harassed or even murdered), and not because there were millions of LGBT people in 1876 that didn't tell anyone about it because it was literally illegal back then? This is like repealing Islamic law in Iran and then being shocked when millions of people admit to being atheists.

I think Iwas pretty clear on my opinion. Adults can choose to die, but for t hose under the age of 18, they must be defended. MUST. For the adults, we can choose to die. My suggestion is for those above the age of 18 to choose to be killed and not retaliate.
Yes. death is evil. But if your weaker party and they are the majority, it is the only option you have

I'm not gay, but I am Jewish, and the hard right turn some in this country has taken has led to a return of antisemitism alongside this resurgence in homophobia. As a "minority" in this country, if they decided tomorrow to start the next major genocide against Jewish people, I would not decide "well, guess there's more of them than us. We gotta just lay down and die." If standing against the destruction of our people involved retaliation, it would be more than justified. Likewise, if gay people are left with no option but to defend themselves through violence, then it is totally justified and the fate of the assailants is only the fault of the assailants for creating a conflict that led to their own doom. I would not like to see this happen, and it would be an American tragedy if we had a civil war-type situation like this on any level, but every minority community has the right to self defense, and should choose that right. Maybe instead of the LGBT choosing to die, their opponents should choose to leave them alone so that peace can prevail.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Threats of violence against the LGBTQIA+ community are on the rise and intensifying, according to a new briefing by the Department of Homeland Security.

The DHS document, distributed to government and law enforcement agencies on May 11, said that domestic violence extremists and people who commit hate crimes have increased threats of violence against the LGBTQIA+ community within the last year.

"These issues include actions linked to drag-themed events, gender-affirming care, and LGBTQIA+ curricula in schools," DHS said.

DHS said that the issues inspiring threats and calls of violence against the LGBTQIA+ community could lead to a rise of potential attacks against larger targets, such as public spaces and healthcare sites that may be linked to the community.

DHS analysts also cite social media chatter celebrating the recent mass shooting at a Nashville church school.

"High-profile attacks against schools and faith-based institutions like the recent shooting in Nashville have historically served as inspiration for individuals to conduct copycat attacks," DHS said.

In recent months, politicians in Tennessee, Florida and other Republican-run states have introduced legislation that critics say targets the LGBTQIA+ community.

In March 2022, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed the Parental Rights in Education bill, dubbed the "Don't Say Gay" bill by detractors.

The bill banned classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. Last month, the Florida Board of Education expanded those restrictions to include all grades. In March, Tennessee became the first state to restrict public drag performances.

HB 9 and SB 3, signed by Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee, make "a person who engages in an adult cabaret performance on public property" -- or where it can be viewed by minors -- a criminal offense.

Last month, a federal judge temporarily blocked the law, saying it was vaguely written and overly broad, according to AP.

At least 14 states have passed laws or policies that restrict gender-affirming care for people under the age of legal majority, which is the threshold for legal adulthood.

According to DHS, about 20% of all hate crimes reported throughout the country in 2021 were motivated by bias linked to sexual orientation and gender, citing the FBI's hate crime statistics.

This is what all the anti-woke nonsense gets you in the end, and why I will never vote for a Republican.

So, NSG, is the Republican culture war against those who aren't heteronormative the cause of this? And if not, who is?

I'm definitely going to say that if the Repubs aren't responsible for creating this harmful, hateful rhetoric, they are responsible for amplifying it and if there is another massacre of LGBT individuals (say, in the style of the Pulse Nightclub shooting), then the right should be held responsible for creating an environment where it's more likely to happen.

America increasingly and increasingly gears itself more towards fascism. It fuels itself off of hatred of others- the denial the people have for the system which imprisons them and relegates them to cogs in a corporate machine can only be starved off by the state mandating who to hate- who to dislike, who to scream and rant at.

At first it was the "Negro", the freedman, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with debauchery.
When they could no longer hate the "Negro", they hated the Irish, the Slav, the Italian. The non-Anglo-Saxon, who were going to destroy white Protestant civilization with debauchery.
When they could no longer hate the Irish, Italians, and the Slavs, they hated the Chinese, the Asians. The non-European, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with debauchery.
When they could no longer hate the Asians, they hated the Jews. The Christ Killers, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with greed.
When they could no longer hate the Jews, they hated themselves. They tore themselves apart over politics and blamed each other.
When they could no longer tear themselves apart, they turned to the queer. The defiers of God, the sinners, the faggots who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with debauchery.

What we see is little nothing more than a repetition of a pattern that has gone on in American history since its foundation. America always looks for somebody to blame, to hate. Because it distracts the people. It distracts them from a reality where the true enemy of the people is the state and the government. You blindly hate something, the government supports that hate- and you don't hate the government as much. You become numb to all the things the government does to those people. You pass it off as "not being that bad", or "they deserved it". Until finally, it's too late.

Point yourselves to the Weimar Republic. Before the Nazis rose to power the Weimar Republic revolutionized what we think "gender" or "sex" even means along with sexual orientation. The Nazis burned their books and buried the evidence. It took us decades to finally rediscover the same things that the Institute For Sexology had discovered in the 1920s. Is the suppression of children learning about other identities- about other viewpoints and orientations, not just a step back from the outright burning of the books?

The lynchings have already begun. Kiwi Farms and the likes witch-hunt Queers. They open them up to the world and shame them, smear them, make up lies about them until they disappear, whether from the internet or this plane of existence. It's no different from the lynching mobs that terrorized Black Americans in the south- the only difference is that this time, it's online, and they're the ones supplying the rope to the victim. This will not stop until a second revolution begins. Not protests. A revolution. Because when the hate against the queer dies down, they will move right back on to hating someone else.

[Bradfordville]

When they could no longer hate the Irish, Italians, and the Slavs, they hated the Chinese, the Asians. The non-European, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with debauchery.
When they could no longer hate the Asians, they hated the Jews. The Christ Killers, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with greed.

Didn't America pretty much hate Jews, Asians, Italians and Slavs all at the same time? The Irish were a little earlier but it was around 1900 where America really hated anyone who wasn't a northwest european.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

When they could no longer hate the Irish, Italians, and the Slavs, they hated the Chinese, the Asians. The non-European, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with debauchery.
When they could no longer hate the Asians, they hated the Jews. The Christ Killers, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with greed.

Didn't America pretty much hate Jews, Asians, Italians and Slavs all at the same time? The Irish were a little earlier but it was around 1900 where America really hated anyone who wasn't a northwest european.

They did generally speaking, but I'm simplifying for the sake of the point.

[The Black Forrest]

When they could no longer hate the Irish, Italians, and the Slavs, they hated the Chinese, the Asians. The non-European, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with debauchery.
When they could no longer hate the Asians, they hated the Jews. The Christ Killers, who were going to destroy white Christian civilization with greed.

Didn't America pretty much hate Jews, Asians, Italians and Slavs all at the same time? The Irish were a little earlier but it was around 1900 where America really hated anyone who wasn't a northwest european.

Everybody has gotten the love at one time or another. California once had laws where Chinese and Japanese couldn’t own land.

If you want to look or a decent film. ‘Gentleman’s agreement’. Gregory Peck plays a reporter who wants to write a piece on anti-semitism. So he pretends to be a Jew. It won best picture in 1948.

[Bradfordville]

Didn't America pretty much hate Jews, Asians, Italians and Slavs all at the same time? The Irish were a little earlier but it was around 1900 where America really hated anyone who wasn't a northwest european.

They did generally speaking, but I'm simplifying for the sake of the point.

Yeah. American society (and maybe alot of societies in general) definitely seem to be built heavily around the need to hate someone.

[Des-Bal]

Didn't America pretty much hate Jews, Asians, Italians and Slavs all at the same time? The Irish were a little earlier but it was around 1900 where America really hated anyone who wasn't a northwest european.

I dont know how well it jives with this fun delusional rhetoric but Ive heard legends that some guy in somewhere in Europr was rather rude to a Jewish person once. I mean I can't confirm these stories but it's possible that some of these concepts are not solely the domain of the evil American state.

[Rhodevus]

I hate that this is happening everywhere. Of course when you other a group of people, people are going to start treating them like monsters and spread lies about them. It's not even a new tactic. They aren't even using original debates. Oh the trans people will harm the kids? What about the gays harming kids? or the blacks? or the chinese? or pretty much any group in America's history that you hated? It's almost like these people just need a target for their bigotry.

I'm all for tolerance. And an essential part of being tolerant, is knowing that a tolerant people should be intolerant of the intolerant.

[Des-Bal]

Yeah. American society (and maybe alot of societies in general) definitely seem to be built heavily around the need to hate someone.

It's a human characteristic to create an us and a them and to protect us from them. It's a characteristic of politics that "this group is the problem" is a pretty effective tactic to rally support.

[Bradfordville]

Yeah. American society (and maybe alot of societies in general) definitely seem to be built heavily around the need to hate someone.

It's a human characteristic to create an us and a them and to protect us from them. It's a characteristic of politics that "this group is the problem" is a pretty effective tactic to rally support.

I've seen this in many places as a world traveller. Thailand has a historic rivalry with neighboring Myanmar to a point that among many Thai, their neighboring country is known simply as "the enemy." And then there's everything that's happened in the Balkans.