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What do you identify as?

Far Left (Progressive, Marxist, etc.)
47
23%
Left (Democratic, cares about human rights, etc.)
71
35%
Right (Opposite of left)
36
18%
Far Right (Regressive, Republican, etc.)
49
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Total votes : 203

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:29 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Who are we talking about?

Anwar Nasser Abdulla al-Awlaki

Terrorism is against my beliefs, personally

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:29 am

Of the 2nd Bohemian-Roman CLOSED BORDERS wrote:
Neu California wrote:
Again, please answer this question:



Also, your extremism is noted. Can you show any harm that comes from just mentioning such a thing (molestation) in a story? Especially since sexual harm happens every day to children and teens and letting them know what it is, that it's not okay, and how to report it and stop it can only be a good thing (Not talking about Racing In The Rain here, just in general)




It really does just write itself sometimes.

More times than it should
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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:30 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Anwar Nasser Abdulla al-Awlaki

Terrorism is against my beliefs, personally

Mine to, but that doesn't mean you should kill citizens of your own country with a drone strike.
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Hirota
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Postby Hirota » Mon May 15, 2023 4:31 am

El Lazaro wrote:Obama was the last real American patriot (Joe Biden is an Irish nationalist—nothing wrong with that, but it’s foreign) in office, and literally everyone who died when Obama was president completely deserved it, regardless of whether Obama personally killed them or not. Socialistic opinions like yours don’t belong in MY great US of A.
This is perhaps one of the dumbest posts possible, and it's in a thread which started with a really dumb post.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:32 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Terrorism is against my beliefs, personally

Mine to, but that doesn't mean you should kill citizens of your own country with a drone strike.

They should accept personal responsibility for being terrorists.

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:32 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Mine to, but that doesn't mean you should kill citizens of your own country with a drone strike.

They should accept personal responsibility for being terrorists.

They should be arrested andvput on trial.
Just your average American Christian conservative.
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When the antichrist comes, he will come in the name of peace.
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Neu California
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Postby Neu California » Mon May 15, 2023 4:34 am

Of the 2nd Bohemian-Roman CLOSED BORDERS wrote:
Neu California wrote:
Again, please answer this question:



Also, your extremism is noted. Can you show any harm that comes from just mentioning such a thing (molestation) in a story? Especially since sexual harm happens every day to children and teens and letting them know what it is, that it's not okay, and how to report it and stop it can only be a good thing (Not talking about Racing In The Rain here, just in general)


>Not wanting books with sexual assaults on minors = Extremism.

>Loli flag RPing as the most backwards state in the union.

It really does just write itself sometimes.


:roll:

>Makes stupid-ass mischaracterizations.

>Confuses California with Alabama, and has no idea what Loli is.

It really does.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:34 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:They should accept personal responsibility for being terrorists.

They should be arrested andvput on trial.

Why should enemy combatants be discriminated against on the basis of nationality? I don’t see how this can possibly be interpreted as fair. It’s essentially xenophobic.

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:36 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:They should be arrested andvput on trial.

Why should enemy combatants be discriminated against on the basis of nationality? I don’t see how this can possibly be interpreted as fair. It’s essentially xenophobic.

I don't see how killing them with a drone strike ia any better.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:37 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Why should enemy combatants be discriminated against on the basis of nationality? I don’t see how this can possibly be interpreted as fair. It’s essentially xenophobic.

I don't see how killing them with a drone strike ia any better.

It’s fair and impartial.

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The Pure Russia
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Founded: May 13, 2023
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Postby The Pure Russia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:37 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:They should accept personal responsibility for being terrorists.

They should be arrested andvput on trial.

I see the insane formalism in what you're saying.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:38 am

The Pure Russia wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:They should be arrested andvput on trial.

I see the insane formalism in what you're saying.

I’m glad you agree, death to all terrorists

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:39 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:I don't see how killing them with a drone strike ia any better.

It’s fair and impartial.

How is it fair?!?!
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:40 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:It’s fair and impartial.

How is it fair?!?!

Talk shit, get hit

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:41 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:How is it fair?!?!

Talk shit, get hit

At least put them on trial, for sake
Just your average American Christian conservative.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:41 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Talk shit, get hit

At least put them on trial, for sake

Why do you like terrorists so much?

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Postby Picairn » Mon May 15, 2023 4:42 am

This thread is a trainwreck. Instead of debates on the morality of centrism, we have trans genocide, book bans, and the Great Discourse on whether al-Awlaki deserved his drone strike.
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:43 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:At least put them on trial, for sake

Why do you like terrorists so much?

I don't, I think they should be put on trial, not shot dead by a drone.
Just your average American Christian conservative.
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When the antichrist comes, he will come in the name of peace.
Union of States of America wrote:now, whenever I read a post by EuroStralia, I for some strange reaon hear it in Tucker Carlson's voice. :eyebrow:

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:44 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Why do you like terrorists so much?

I don't, I think they should be put on trial, not shot dead by a drone.

I think all terrorists should die unless they apologize for being terrorists

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The Pure Russia
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Postby The Pure Russia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:44 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Talk shit, get hit

At least put them on trial, for sake

In some cases, the decision of the executive authorities or the political leadership of the state will do.
For example, during the fight with the fighting criminals, the police shoot, including to kill.

I do not understand why it is necessary to protect the rights of some militant weird men.
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Idealistic democratic Soviet nationalists
Our Sun will warm everyone, eventually.

Russian authoritarian socialist.
Materialist and atheist. Not a literate and full-fledged Marxist, rather a semi-Marxist.
Pro-Soviet as hell. The truth about the Soviet Union will only allow me to improve my pro-Soviet speech skills.

The nation has something in common with my soul: I would feel like in a cozy home there, but its way of creation seems unrealistic to me (and basically, this is a reference to Yezhov from Kaiserredux).

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:46 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:I don't, I think they should be put on trial, not shot dead by a drone.

I think all terrorists should die unless they apologize for being terrorists

Why shouldn't they be put on trial.
The Pure Russia wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:At least put them on trial, for sake

In some cases, the decision of the executive authorities or the political leadership of the state will do.
For example, during the fight with the fighting criminals, the police shoot, including to kill.

I do not understand why it is necessary to protect the rights of some militant eccentrics.

The police are actualy there, in the moment, not sitting cowardly in the Oval Office.
Just your average American Christian conservative.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:48 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:I think all terrorists should die unless they apologize for being terrorists

Why shouldn't they be put on trial.

Because terrorism is too vague of a term for the courts to deal with

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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:50 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Why shouldn't they be put on trial.

Because terrorism is too vague of a term for the courts to deal with

No it isn't, terrorism is the use of intentional violence and fear to achieve political or ideological aims.
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:51 am

EuroStralia wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Because terrorism is too vague of a term for the courts to deal with

No it isn't, terrorism is the use of intentional violence and fear to achieve political or ideological aims.

This describes all wars

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Postby EuroStralia » Mon May 15, 2023 4:52 am

El Lazaro wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:No it isn't, terrorism is the use of intentional violence and fear to achieve political or ideological aims.

This describes all wars

Not all wars are for ideological aims.
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