The Fallacy of Centrism

[Terra dei Cittadini]

As has been explained countless times, they are absolutely in the process of doing so. Firing the ovens ain't the only way to go about it.

Just because you don’t like what they’re doing doesn’t mean they are genocidal.

First, they came for the leftists,
Then they came for the trans people,
Then they claimed hyperbole,
And we were sent to concentration camps.

Fascism. They want control. Wake up, or you'll find yourself assisting them build death camps.

[Diarcesia]

Just because you don’t like what they’re doing doesn’t mean they are genocidal.

First, they came for the leftists,
Then they came for the trans people,
Then they claimed hyperbole,
And we were sent to concentration camps.

Fascism. They want control. Wake up, or you'll find yourself assisting them build death camps.

The fallacy here is a cynical view of human nature. That all humans by default seek to remove threats by force, ultimately. In other words, an extension of the idea that humans are by nature selfish-evil.

[The Huskar Social Union]

lol

Yo what up my fellow centrists cha cha cha cha

[EuroStralia]

Please tell me how and when the Republicans committed genocide.

Banning HRT, gerrymandering, pardoning white supremacists, forwarding rhetoric that causes hate and violence, calling out shooting victims on their "legal" status, calling for legalization of lynchings, asking a trans woman what genitals she has, cutting social security and food stamps, opposing workers' rights, criminalizing drag, curtailing abortion, and feeding lies to people like you.

It has been their plan for centuries. Stop. Being. A. Complicit. Liar.

You know you're wrong when you view your opposition as genocidal maniacs.

[Rary]

Just because you don’t like what they’re doing doesn’t mean they are genocidal.

First, they came for the leftists,
Then they came for the trans people,
Then they claimed hyperbole,
And we were sent to concentration camps.

Fascism. They want control. Wake up, or you'll find yourself assisting them build death camps.

FDR built concentration camps. Republicans didn’t.

[The Pure Russia]

Hell, today's genocidal GOP

Aah...hh...b...eh...
I really dislike American parties, but this sounds like something that is quite hard to agree with.

[Cyber Duotona]

lol

Yo what up my fellow centrists cha cha cha cha

i genuinely think this thread made me a centrist (perhaps still left leaning though) because this just seems tiring

[EuroStralia]

Just because you don’t like what they’re doing doesn’t mean they are genocidal.

First, they came for the leftists,
Then they came for the trans people,
Then they claimed hyperbole,
And we were sent to concentration camps.

Fascism. They want control. Wake up, or you'll find yourself assisting them build death camps.

FASCISM!1!1 But in all seriousness, yes this post is hyperbole.

[Necroghastia]

Yeah, taking away people's healthcare, taking their children, denying them their very identities, crafting a moral panic over a whole demographic being rapists and kiddy diddlers. Yeah, not genocidal at all

It wouldn't kill yall to be honest for once, you know.

[EuroStralia]

Yeah, taking away people's healthcare, taking their children, denying them their very identities, crafting a moral panic over a whole demographic being rapists and kiddy diddlers. Yeah, not genocidal at all

It wouldn't kill yall to be honest for once, you know.

It wouldn't kill you to stop exaggerating everything about the GOP.

[The Huskar Social Union]

lol

Yo what up my fellow centrists cha cha cha cha

i genuinely think this thread made me a centrist (perhaps still left leaning though) because this just seems tiring

Nah they just called me a centrist in the UK politics thread lmao

[Cannot think of a name]

As has been explained countless times, they are absolutely in the process of doing so. Firing the ovens ain't the only way to go about it.

Just because you don’t like what they’re doing doesn’t mean they are genocidal.

Just because the comparison makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean that they aren't. If you wait for the showers to turn on you're too late.

[Vikanias]

i genuinely think this thread made me a centrist (perhaps still left leaning though) because this just seems tiring

Nah they just called me a centrist in the UK politics thread lmao

Average NSGer trying to not call their opponents something they dislike challenge: impossible

[Necroghastia]

Yeah, taking away people's healthcare, taking their children, denying them their very identities, crafting a moral panic over a whole demographic being rapists and kiddy diddlers. Yeah, not genocidal at all

It wouldn't kill yall to be honest for once, you know.

It wouldn't kill you to stop exaggerating everything about the GOP.

Literally nothing there is exaggeration

[Floofybit]

Centrism opposes too much change in right wings favour. They can't be right wing if they oppose a strong right wing agenda

[EuroStralia]

It wouldn't kill you to stop exaggerating everything about the GOP.

Literally nothing there is exaggeration

Yes, Yes it is

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Centrism is defined as taking "moderate positions" on issues. However, this is the issue.

Centrists oppose change. They's rather compromise a person's rights than to fight for their liberty. Destroy the planet rather than take action against climate change. Hell, today's genocidal GOP is being praised by centrists; if you laud the GOP's crusade against human rights, progress, and marginalized groups, you're either centrist or rightist.

Also, while a centrist may somewhat support someone's rights, they'd also uphold the institutions that cause inequity. Hence, centrism is a fallacious, complicit conservative ideology.

Overall, centrism is a flawed position due to being a complicit, conservative ideology in disguise.

- progressivists lobbed in with communists
- christian republicans lumped in with nazis
Please leave, Joe Biden intern. We know what you are.

[Terra dei Cittadini]

Banning HRT, gerrymandering, pardoning white supremacists, forwarding rhetoric that causes hate and violence, calling out shooting victims on their "legal" status, calling for legalization of lynchings, asking a trans woman what genitals she has, cutting social security and food stamps, opposing workers' rights, criminalizing drag, curtailing abortion, and feeding lies to people like you.

It has been their plan for centuries. Stop. Being. A. Complicit. Liar.

None of these are genocidal. I believe you’re the one being lied to.

Remember when I implored you to look you the UN's genocide resolution? Here it is, if you're still reading this:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

In Florida, DeSantis is signing a bill to transfer trans kids to non-trans guardians' care. This is a violation of section (e). HRT restrictions/bans are in Republican states with the intent of genocide. in section (c), the banning of HRT will increase trans suicide, which is an example of a condition of "inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part". You say this "isn't genocidal", but it makes you look foolish in the name of evidence arguing otherwise.

Also, the GOP just sucks. They get us into wars, they take away our healthcare, and tell us we can't do this or that with our bodies, and expect to get elected? Of course, you'd likely vote for them anyways.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

None of these are genocidal. I believe you’re the one being lied to.

You know what, you fucking piece of shit?

You are a fucking liar, a motherfucking fool. They are cutting of the fucking thing trans people need to be their true selves, and to that you say "you're throwing a hissy fit"? If you use your FUCKING keyboard and look up the UN convention in genocide, YOU WILL SEE that what they're doing is genocide, and this is the beginning of their quest to have the fourth Reich.

This website is infested with right-wing know-nothings like yourself. I have been a myriad of idiots on these forums, none of them good.
Fascists, elitists, everything, from the up-in-arms theocrat Floofybit, from the libertarian poor people hater Port Caverton.

Necroghastia and I would agree that this forum is a 4Chan equivalent to the right-wing neofascist movement being perpetuated worldwide.
Bigotry and all the BS fester in this little corner of the internet; I'm sure Max Barry would cringe at some of the people here, . Censoring conservative hate, lies, and fascism is not "violation of free speech"; it is common sense for those who wish to have a democratic government after the far-right coup attempt of January 6th. The paradox of tolerance is that tolerance of intolerance leads to the extinction of tolerance itself, and democracy condoning antidemocracy is the noose of democracy itself. You say we are "left-wing" but think about it. Is the human condition rights of queers, blacks, and other nonwhite, non-Aryan people to be compromise because you find that they are "strange" or "objectionable"?

Remember when I implored you to look you the UN's genocide resolution? Here it is, if you're still reading this:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

In Florida, DeSantis is signing a bill to transfer trans kids to non-trans guardians' care. This is a violation of section (e). HRT restrictions/bans are in Republican states with the intent of genocide. in section (c), the banning of HRT will increase trans suicide, which is an example of a condition of "inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part". You say this "isn't genocidal", but it makes you look foolish in the name of evidence arguing otherwise.

Also, the GOP just sucks. They get us into wars, they take away our healthcare, and tell us we can't do this or that with our bodies, and expect to get elected? Of course, you'd likely vote for them anyways.

Cool it. You're just going to get a forum ban. Just state the facts and nothing else.

[Terra dei Cittadini]

lol

Yo what up my fellow centrists cha cha cha cha

i genuinely think this thread made me a centrist (perhaps still left leaning though) because this just seems tiring

Well, after researching it, I'm still not a centrist.

[Port Caverton]

None of these are genocidal. I believe you’re the one being lied to.

This website is infested with right-wing know-nothings like yourself. I have been a myriad of idiots on these forums, none of them good.
Fascists, elitists, everything, from the up-in-arms theocrat Floofybit, from the libertarian poor people hater Port Caverton.

Necroghastia and I would agree that this forum is a 4Chan equivalent to the right-wing neofascist movement being perpetuated worldwide.
Bigotry and all the BS fester in this little corner of the internet; I'm sure Max Barry would cringe at some of the people here, . Censoring conservative hate, lies, and fascism is not "violation of free speech"; it is common sense for those who wish to have a democratic government after the far-right coup attempt of January 6th. The paradox of tolerance is that tolerance of intolerance leads to the extinction of tolerance itself, and democracy condoning antidemocracy is the noose of democracy itself. You say we are "left-wing" but think about it. Is the human condition rights of queers, blacks, and other nonwhite, non-Aryan people to be compromise because you find that they are "strange" or "objectionable"?
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1) I'm not a Libertarian, I'm a center right conservative. I voted for Erin O'Toole when my school held mock elections.

2) This forum is filled with leftists, this ain't no 4chan but go off I guess

[Terra dei Cittadini]

It wouldn't kill you to stop exaggerating everything about the GOP.

Literally nothing there is exaggeration

Whenever I see misinfo from right-wingers, I have to resist their doublespeak.

That's how tricky it is.

[EuroStralia]

Literally nothing there is exaggeration

Whenever I see misinfo from right-wingers, I have to resist their doublespeak.

That's how tricky it is.

What "doublespeak"?

[Terra dei Cittadini]

Yeah, taking away people's healthcare, taking their children, denying them their very identities, crafting a moral panic over a whole demographic being rapists and kiddy diddlers. Yeah, not genocidal at all

It wouldn't kill yall to be honest for once, you know.

Facts.

You're one of the few sane people here, Necro!

[Undemocacy]

I personally think the problem with centrism in the US is how far right their entire political system has been drifting.
the centre between the democrats and republicans is by most definitions, right wing. Neither party is implementing reasonable gun control, neither party is implementing policies to make healthcare affordable, and even in "blue" states minimum wage doesn't meet living wage.