The Fallacy of Centrism

[Undemocacy]

You didn't answer my first question.

And the accusation, while being a major plot point, comes and goes pretty damn quickly. It's not lingered on in any detail.

Still a plot point, and shouldn't be allowed in schools.

you should see the Australian curriculum, we got actively shown those types of stories and its not like it negatively impacted us, if anything it positively impacted us.

I'd also like to remind you that banning books is only one small example of American conservative authoritarianism. Some other more important examples I mentioned earlier

the American right is banning books and abortion, has attempted to stage a coup, and is being led by people who view the truth and science as little more than an inconvenience. It's an easy mistake to assume that people who support that would agree with it.

now to me, an attempted coup and a complete disregard for the truth is more important than book bannings.

[Ventura Bay]

Sexual assult should not be allowed in school libraries.

You didn't answer my first question.

And the accusation, while being a major plot point, comes and goes pretty damn quickly. It's not lingered on in any detail.

So, as long as it comes and goes quickly, the premise of child sexual assault is fine in a school library?

Jesus.

[Neu California]

You didn't answer my first question.

And the accusation, while being a major plot point, comes and goes pretty damn quickly. It's not lingered on in any detail.

So, as long as it comes and goes quickly, the premise of child sexual assault is fine in a school library?

Jesus.

And if it's portrayed negatively.

Again, show me the harm of discussing or even mentioning the topic to teenagers, with actual studies and/or scientific papers. Your word is nowhere near good enough.

[EuroStralia]

Still a plot point, and shouldn't be allowed in schools.

Again, please answer this question:

And that justifies banning [Antiracist Baby] because?

Also, your extremism is noted. Can you show any harm that comes from just mentioning such a thing (molestation) in a story? Especially since sexual harm happens every day to children and teens and letting them know what it is, that it's not okay, and how to report it and stop it can only be a good thing (Not talking about Racing In The Rain here, just in general)

They should learn that people aren't allowed to do it by actual educators, not some random book.

[Neu California]

Again, please answer this question:



Also, your extremism is noted. Can you show any harm that comes from just mentioning such a thing (molestation) in a story? Especially since sexual harm happens every day to children and teens and letting them know what it is, that it's not okay, and how to report it and stop it can only be a good thing (Not talking about Racing In The Rain here, just in general)

They should learn that people aren't allowed to do it by actual educators, not some random book.

Again, the question you refuse to answer: That justifies banning these books, how?

And I don't see any problem with them learning this independently, especially if the abuser is a teacher or the teacher is just shit at teaching about these things.

[EuroStralia]

They should learn that people aren't allowed to do it by actual educators, not some random book.

Again, the question you refuse to answer: That justifies banning these books, how?

And I don't see any problem with them learning this independently, especially if the abuser is a teacher or the teacher is just shit at teaching about these things.

If the teacher is abusing them then that teacher should be arrested, those books should be banned because it can teach those things to children when they are not ready.

[Undemocacy]

I'm going to sleep, but before I go i'd like to share a quote from Elie Wiesel that sums up the issue of centrism in regards to civil rights.

I swore never to be silent whenever wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere.

Also Neu California you're getting caught up on the book issue, please push harder on the issues that EuroStralia doesn't see as a good thing

[Neu California]

Again, the question you refuse to answer: That justifies banning these books, how?

And I don't see any problem with them learning this independently, especially if the abuser is a teacher or the teacher is just shit at teaching about these things.

If the teacher is abusing them then that teacher should be arrested, those books should be banned because it can teach those things to children when they are not ready.

And who decides when they're ready? I was taught about how to avoid sexual assault and similar things back when I was eight (it was age appropriate, of course, basically what bad touching was, and what to do when a stranger makes you uncomfortable) and that was built upon as I grew up. Also, you missed the point. If the teacher is abusing the student, and the student doesn't know that it's not okay or feels trapped by the power the teacher holds over them (the latter being a very real problem), having some way to tell them how to get out of that situation, regardless of whether they are "ready" or not, because, guess what? It can happen at any age.

[EuroStralia]

If the teacher is abusing them then that teacher should be arrested, those books should be banned because it can teach those things to children when they are not ready.

And who decides when they're ready? I was taught about how to avoid sexual assault and similar things back when I was eight (it was age appropriate, of course, basically what bad touching was, and what to do when a stranger makes you uncomfortable) and that was built upon as I grew up. Also, you missed the point. If the teacher is abusing the student, and the student doesn't know that it's not okay or feels trapped by the power the teacher holds over them (the latter being a very real problem), having some way to tell them how to get out of that situation, regardless of whether they are "ready" or not, because, guess what? It can happen at any age.

When they become a teenager. There should be cameras in every classroom then.

[Neu California]

And who decides when they're ready? I was taught about how to avoid sexual assault and similar things back when I was eight (it was age appropriate, of course, basically what bad touching was, and what to do when a stranger makes you uncomfortable) and that was built upon as I grew up. Also, you missed the point. If the teacher is abusing the student, and the student doesn't know that it's not okay or feels trapped by the power the teacher holds over them (the latter being a very real problem), having some way to tell them how to get out of that situation, regardless of whether they are "ready" or not, because, guess what? It can happen at any age.

When they become a teenager. There should be cameras in every classroom then.

And resources should be available to the student in case it takes place off campus, or where there otherwise isn't monitoring, including self-learning resources.

[EuroStralia]

When they become a teenager. There should be cameras in every classroom then.

And resources should be available to the student in case it takes place off campus, or where there otherwise isn't monitoring, including self-learning resources.

Yes Kids should be taught the basics on how to keep themselves safe and what if wrong.

[Neu California]

And resources should be available to the student in case it takes place off campus, or where there otherwise isn't monitoring, including self-learning resources.

Yes Kids should be taught the basics on how to keep themselves safe and what if wrong.

I'm glad we're in agreement. Books about said topic, or even just touching on said topic, shouldn't be banned.

[EuroStralia]

Yes Kids should be taught the basics on how to keep themselves safe and what if wrong.

I'm glad we're in agreement. Books about said topic, or even just touching on said topic, shouldn't be banned.

It should be taught in person, not by books, they can give children a wrong idea about the events.

[El Lazaro]

100, no, 200% absolutely yes. I can say for sure he deserved to die.

Why?

He was grooming the youth into becoming Woke and anti-American

[Neu California]

I'm glad we're in agreement. Books about said topic, or even just touching on said topic, shouldn't be banned.

It should be taught in person, not by books, they can give children a wrong idea about the events.

And teaching in person can't?

I don't see why we can't rely on, you know, both methods. This isn't some either/or thing, as the two are not mutually exclusive by any stretch. In fact, I would argue that they supplement each other nicely.

[EuroStralia]

Why?

He was grooming the youth into becoming Woke and anti-American

How.

It should be taught in person, not by books, they can give children a wrong idea about the events.

And teaching in person can't?

I don't see why we can't rely on, you know, both methods. This isn't some either/or thing, as the two are not mutually exclusive by any stretch. In fact, I would argue that they supplement each other nicely.

People can convey emotion and reality better than books can.

[El Lazaro]

He was grooming the youth into becoming Woke and anti-American

How.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

[Floofybit]

I don't know if people can really be centrist. Just either apolitical or mixed politically. People will always have a bias if they care.

[Neu California]

He was grooming the youth into becoming Woke and anti-American

How.

And teaching in person can't?

I don't see why we can't rely on, you know, both methods. This isn't some either/or thing, as the two are not mutually exclusive by any stretch. In fact, I would argue that they supplement each other nicely.

People can convey emotion and reality better than books can.

That's debatable. Also, people can lie and bullshit to suit their own agenda towards a person much more easily than books can.

[EuroStralia]

How.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Are we talking about the same person?

[El Lazaro]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Are we talking about the same person?

Who are we talking about?

[Ark Kilon]

Centrism is defined as taking "moderate positions" on issues. However, this is the issue.

Centrists oppose change. They's rather compromise a person's rights than to fight for their liberty. Destroy the planet rather than take action against climate change. Hell, today's genocidal GOP is being praised by centrists; if you laud the GOP's crusade against human rights, progress, and marginalized groups, you're either centrist or rightist.

Also, while a centrist may somewhat support someone's rights, they'd also uphold the institutions that cause inequity. Hence, centrism is a fallacious, complicit conservative ideology.

Overall, centrism is a flawed position due to being a complicit, conservative ideology in disguise.

Are you truly a Centrist.

[EuroStralia]

Are we talking about the same person?

Who are we talking about?

Anwar Nasser Abdulla al-Awlaki

[Floofybit]

Centrism is defined as taking "moderate positions" on issues. However, this is the issue.

Centrists oppose change. They's rather compromise a person's rights than to fight for their liberty. Destroy the planet rather than take action against climate change. Hell, today's genocidal GOP is being praised by centrists; if you laud the GOP's crusade against human rights, progress, and marginalized groups, you're either centrist or rightist.

Also, while a centrist may somewhat support someone's rights, they'd also uphold the institutions that cause inequity. Hence, centrism is a fallacious, complicit conservative ideology.

Overall, centrism is a flawed position due to being a complicit, conservative ideology in disguise.

Are you truly a Centrist.

It seems they lean left

[Of the 2nd Bohemian-Roman CLOSED BORDERS]

Still a plot point, and shouldn't be allowed in schools.

Again, please answer this question:

And that justifies banning [Antiracist Baby] because?

Also, your extremism is noted. Can you show any harm that comes from just mentioning such a thing (molestation) in a story? Especially since sexual harm happens every day to children and teens and letting them know what it is, that it's not okay, and how to report it and stop it can only be a good thing (Not talking about Racing In The Rain here, just in general)

>Not wanting books with sexual assaults on minors = Extremism.

>Loli flag RPing as the most backwards state in the union.

It really does just write itself sometimes.