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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:10 am

Undemocacy wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:So I want my fellow Americans dead?

Are you a facist?

Dimetrodon Empire seems to think so.
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Any non-Christian and anyone who does not conform to your theocratic fascistic worldview.

So yes. Your economic policy has "fuck the poor" all over it too.


What evidence do you have of that?
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:16 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Undemocacy wrote:Are you a facist?

Dimetrodon Empire seems to think so.
What evidence do you have of that?

That you lie, you are pro-Jan 6th coup attempt, you spred anti-democratic conspiracy theories, and you have tests in your sig, all of them call you a fascist, reactionary, theocratic, etc., all synonyms (or at least closely related to) of far-right fascism.

You also embrace Social Darwinism in you economic polices. Something a fascist would proudly embrace.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:19 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Dimetrodon Empire seems to think so.
What evidence do you have of that?

That you lie, you are pro-Jan 6th coup attempt, you spred anti-democratic conspiracy theories, and you have tests in your sig, all of them call you a fascist, reactionary, theocratic, etc., all synonyms (or at least closely related to) of far-right fascism.

You also embrace Social Darwinism in you economic polices. Something a fascist would proudly embrace.

I don't support a dictator that runs the state top to bottom, including peoples lives and the economy, therefor I am not a fascist; I am also not an ultra/ethnonationalist, all key ideas of fascism.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:22 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:That you lie, you are pro-Jan 6th coup attempt, you spred anti-democratic conspiracy theories, and you have tests in your sig, all of them call you a fascist, reactionary, theocratic, etc., all synonyms (or at least closely related to) of far-right fascism.

You also embrace Social Darwinism in you economic polices. Something a fascist would proudly embrace.

I don't support a dictator that runs the state top to bottom, including peoples lives and the economy, therefor I am not a fascist. I am also not an ultra/ethnonationalist.

Modern fascists love free market capitalism. A lot more than their 20th century counterparts do.

Bitching about how you love the "free market" and how being exploited in a system of dog eat dog capitalism without any welfare and regulations constitutes "freedom" does not change anything.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:25 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:I don't support a dictator that runs the state top to bottom, including peoples lives and the economy, therefor I am not a fascist. I am also not an ultra/ethnonationalist.

Modern fascists love free market capitalism. A lot more than their 20th century counterparts do.

Bitching about how you love the "free market" and how being exploited in a system of dog eat dog capitalism without any welfare and regulations constitutes "freedom" does not change anything.

It still isn't fascist, modern fascists have little idea of what real fascism is, I am still also not an ultra/ethnonationalist.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:27 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Modern fascists love free market capitalism. A lot more than their 20th century counterparts do.

Bitching about how you love the "free market" and how being exploited in a system of dog eat dog capitalism without any welfare and regulations constitutes "freedom" does not change anything.

It still isn't fascist, modern fascists have little idea of what real fascism is, I am still also not an ultra/ethnonationalist.

The tests show you to be a solid nationalist. That's enough.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:27 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:It still isn't fascist, modern fascists have little idea of what real fascism is, I am still also not an ultra/ethnonationalist.

The tests show you to be a solid nationalist. That's enough.

solid isn't ultra.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 17, 2023 4:28 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Undemocacy wrote:I'll take that as a yes, however we don't have all day so I'll spell it out for you.
If "it's the idea that causing harm" and that idea is being caused by speech, the speech caused the harm.
If you turned on an electric kettle and then the water boiled, it would not be wrong to say flicking the switch caused the water to boil, even though the electricity flowing through the heating elements technically caused it.


see what I just said.

Besides you don't have freedom of consoquence, you should be able to say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you'll be free from consiquences.

So Fox doesn't have freedom from the consequence of being taken off the air in Canada.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:29 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:The tests show you to be a solid nationalist. That's enough.

solid isn't ultra.

It doesn't require ultranationalism. It usually involves ultranationalism, but it does not require it.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:31 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:solid isn't ultra.

It doesn't require ultranationalism. It usually involves ultranationalism, but it does not require it.

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition" "Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism ... se%20ideas.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:34 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:It doesn't require ultranationalism. It usually involves ultranationalism, but it does not require it.

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition" "Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism ... se%20ideas.

Ultranationalism defined 20th century fascism. Western fascists today tend to be more isolationist.

Also, you meet pretty much everything else on that list, lol.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:37 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition" "Common themes among fascist movements include: authoritarianism, nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, and militarism. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism ... se%20ideas.

Ultranationalism defined 20th century fascism. Western fascists today tend to be more isolationist.

Also, you meet pretty much everything else on that list, lol.

Ah yes, I am definitly a racial nationalist who supports a absolute dictator.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:39 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Ultranationalism defined 20th century fascism. Western fascists today tend to be more isolationist.

Also, you meet pretty much everything else on that list, lol.

Ah yes, I am definitly a racial nationalist who supports a absolute dictator.

Your authoritarian test score says so.

You can deny that, but you even admitted in this very forum (and shown) that you are willing to lie if it serves your political positions.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:41 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Ah yes, I am definitly a racial nationalist who supports a absolute dictator.

Your authoritarian test score says so.

You can deny that, but you even admitted in this very forum (and shown) that you are willing to lie if it serves your political positions.

Whem did I support racial nationalism.
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Postby Also Not FNU » Wed May 17, 2023 4:42 am

Though I don't necessarily think any news channel shouldn't be permitted to air if they've already be doing so for quote some time, and I don't see how it'll stop anyone who wants to from watching it. Fox News, like most news outlets, also has digital and streaming options so the way I see it, this is basically a symbolic middle finger and not much more. I don't think there's any reason to get worked up over it anyways, it's just a bunch of people getting upset over nothing, as most large outlets are.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:49 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Your authoritarian test score says so.

You can deny that, but you even admitted in this very forum (and shown) that you are willing to lie if it serves your political positions.

Whem did I support racial nationalism.

You can be as deliberately obtuse as you wish, doesn't matter. Many people see you for what you are.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:50 am

Also Not FNU wrote:Though I don't necessarily think any news channel shouldn't be permitted to air if they've already be doing so for quote some time, and I don't see how it'll stop anyone who wants to from watching it. Fox News, like most news outlets, also has digital and streaming options so the way I see it, this is basically a symbolic middle finger and not much more. I don't think there's any reason to get worked up over it anyways, it's just a bunch of people getting upset over nothing, as most large outlets are.

The people who are angry about this are just salty that people will have to search a bit harder to find the misinformation.
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed May 17, 2023 4:50 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Whem did I support racial nationalism.

You can be as deliberately obtuse as you wish, doesn't matter. Many people see you for what you are.

Answer his question
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:52 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:Whem did I support racial nationalism.

You can be as deliberately obtuse as you wish, doesn't matter. Many people see you for what you are.

You can't find evidence of me supporting racial nationalism, so you resort to insulting me.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:52 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:You can be as deliberately obtuse as you wish, doesn't matter. Many people see you for what you are.

Answer his question

You have no power over me, so that demand can piss right off.
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Postby Also Not FNU » Wed May 17, 2023 4:56 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Also Not FNU wrote:Though I don't necessarily think any news channel shouldn't be permitted to air if they've already be doing so for quote some time, and I don't see how it'll stop anyone who wants to from watching it. Fox News, like most news outlets, also has digital and streaming options so the way I see it, this is basically a symbolic middle finger and not much more. I don't think there's any reason to get worked up over it anyways, it's just a bunch of people getting upset over nothing, as most large outlets are.

The people who are angry about this are just salty that people will have to search a bit harder to find the misinformation.

To be frank with you, I don't think all of them necessarily care about the content that Fox News puts out. From reading through this it seems that, in-between debates on modern fascism, some were just worried that it could be a potential slippery slope. Sure, you don't have to necessarily agree with anything any given news organization puts out, but at the same time the solution to inaccurate reporting isn't outright preventing the network from broadcasting. I'd say the solution here is to do what they actually care about: Hit them in their wallet. Fines go a long way when you're a private business. I'm not going to go as far as to call it censorship, nor defend Fox News' actions, but at the same time I'm not going to go about condoning the CRTC for considering banning it.

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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 17, 2023 4:59 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Answer his question

You have no power over me, so that demand can piss right off.

Just answer the question.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 4:59 am

Also Not FNU wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:The people who are angry about this are just salty that people will have to search a bit harder to find the misinformation.

To be frank with you, I don't think all of them necessarily care about the content that Fox News puts out. From reading through this it seems that, in-between debates on modern fascism, some were just worried that it could be a potential slippery slope. Sure, you don't have to necessarily agree with anything any given news organization puts out, but at the same time the solution to inaccurate reporting isn't outright preventing the network from broadcasting. I'd say the solution here is to do what they actually care about: Hit them in their wallet. Fines go a long way when you're a private business. I'm not going to go as far as to call it censorship, nor defend Fox News' actions, but at the same time I'm not going to go about condoning the CRTC for considering banning it.

Most do care about what Fox News puts out and support it, and simply make a slippery slope argument. Very few people here are in the free speech absolutist camp.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 17, 2023 5:02 am

EuroStralia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:You have no power over me, so that demand can piss right off.

Just answer the question.

Trumpian conspiracy theories stem out of racial nationalism and fear of white replacement, and you buy into those very conspiracy theories and proudly post them here. Including the idea that illegals voted and that Dems. did other things to rig the election.

You can't screech "checkmate" just because you never explicitly said the part that is supposed to be quiet.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed May 17, 2023 5:03 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Also Not FNU wrote:To be frank with you, I don't think all of them necessarily care about the content that Fox News puts out. From reading through this it seems that, in-between debates on modern fascism, some were just worried that it could be a potential slippery slope. Sure, you don't have to necessarily agree with anything any given news organization puts out, but at the same time the solution to inaccurate reporting isn't outright preventing the network from broadcasting. I'd say the solution here is to do what they actually care about: Hit them in their wallet. Fines go a long way when you're a private business. I'm not going to go as far as to call it censorship, nor defend Fox News' actions, but at the same time I'm not going to go about condoning the CRTC for considering banning it.

Most do care about what Fox News puts out and support it, and simply make a slippery slope argument. Very few people here are in the free speech absolutist camp.


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