Fox News could soon be banned from Canadian cable

[EuroStralia]

You're correct, the lie you're spreading does.

But that is my speech. And speech does not cause harm.

Your lie is an idea, it's the idea that causing harm, not you saying it, it's only harmful if people believe it.

You're correct, the lie you're spreading does.

Do you see how that could be applied to fox "news"?

No, because is can't.

[Undemocacy]

But that is my speech. And speech does not cause harm.

Your lie is an idea, it's the idea that causing harm, not you saying it, it's only harmful if people believe it.

Should we give you a second to think about the absurdity of that statement?
I'm sure we'd all happily give you a moment to think about it.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I hear a lot of people are saying EuroStralia is a groomer. I'm not saying it's true but there's a lot of online discussion and I think we need to ask why so many people are claiming it.

[EuroStralia]

Your lie is an idea, it's the idea that causing harm, not you saying it, it's only harmful if people believe it.

Should we give you a second to think about the absurdity of that statement?
I'm sure we'd all happily give you a moment to think about it.

It isn't absurd, you just don't understand it.

[The Black Forrest]

But that is my speech. And speech does not cause harm.

Your lie is an idea, it's the idea that causing harm, not you saying it, it's only harmful if people believe it.

Do you see how that could be applied to fox "news"?

No, because is can't.

That maybe. Still Necro doesn’t have the reach or the audience. Sorry Necro.

Necro as far as we know isn’t intentially spreading lies because of the “audience.”

[Necroghastia]

But that is my speech. And speech does not cause harm.

Your lie is an idea, it's the idea that causing harm, not you saying it, it's only harmful if people believe it.

People wouldn't believe it if I didn't say it. As an idea simply locked in my head, not being said, it's not causing any harm at all. Now, when I start saying it to others...

[EuroStralia]

Your lie is an idea, it's the idea that causing harm, not you saying it, it's only harmful if people believe it.

People wouldn't believe it if I didn't say it. As an idea simply locked in my head, not being said, it's not causing any harm at all. Now, when I start saying it to others...

Yes, you're causing harm, the idea causes harm, not speech.

[Undemocacy]

Should we give you a second to think about the absurdity of that statement?
I'm sure we'd all happily give you a moment to think about it.

It isn't absurd, you just don't understand it.

I'll take that as a yes, however we don't have all day so I'll spell it out for you.
If "it's the idea that causing harm" and that idea is being caused by speech, the speech caused the harm.
If you turned on an electric kettle and then the water boiled, it would not be wrong to say flicking the switch caused the water to boil, even though the electricity flowing through the heating elements technically caused it.

the idea causes harm, not speech.

see what I just said.

[EuroStralia]

It isn't absurd, you just don't understand it.

I'll take that as a yes, however we don't have all day so I'll spell it out for you.
If "it's the idea that causing harm" and that idea is being caused by speech, the speech caused the harm.
If you turned on an electric kettle and then the water boiled, it would not be wrong to say flicking the switch caused the water to boil, even though the electricity flowing through the heating elements technically caused it.

the idea causes harm, not speech.

see what I just said.

Besides you don't have freedom of consoquence, you should be able to say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you'll be free from consiquences.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I'll take that as a yes, however we don't have all day so I'll spell it out for you.
If "it's the idea that causing harm" and that idea is being caused by speech, the speech caused the harm.
If you turned on an electric kettle and then the water boiled, it would not be wrong to say flicking the switch caused the water to boil, even though the electricity flowing through the heating elements technically caused it.


see what I just said.

Besides you don't freedom of consoquence, you should be able to say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you'll be free from consiquences.

Like maybe losing access to a platform to make those sorts of comments?

[EuroStralia]

Besides you don't freedom of consoquence, you should be able to say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you'll be free from consiquences.

Like maybe losing access to a platform to make those sorts of comments?

Only if your actions hurt or damage others.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Like maybe losing access to a platform to make those sorts of comments?

Only if your actions hurt or damage others.

So we agree, there's nothing wrong with a media outlet that inflicts harm through it's regular disinformation campaigns losing access to a market.

[EuroStralia]

Only if your actions hurt or damage others.

So we agree, there's nothing wrong with a media outlet that inflicts harm through it's regular disinformation campaigns losing access to a market.

Yes, if they are actualy spreading harm, and not just opinions that hurt your feelings.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

So we agree, there's nothing wrong with a media outlet that inflicts harm through it's regular disinformation campaigns losing access to a market.

Yes, if they are actualy spreading harm, and not just opinions that hurt your feelings.

I'm pretty sure peddling disinformation about the election would count.
I'm pretty sure the lies they spread about Dominion would count.

They're notorious for lying and those lies regularly spread identifiable harm.

[EuroStralia]

Yes, if they are actualy spreading harm, and not just opinions that hurt your feelings.

I'm pretty sure peddling disinformation about the election would count.
I'm pretty sure the lies they spread about Dominion would count.

They're notorious for lying and those lies regularly spread identifiable harm.

There was no disinformation about the election that was spread by Fox, nor about Dominion.

[Neu California]

I'm pretty sure peddling disinformation about the election would count.
I'm pretty sure the lies they spread about Dominion would count.

They're notorious for lying and those lies regularly spread identifiable harm.

There was no disinformation about the election that was spread by Fox, nor about Dominion.

The lawsuit Fox Settled with Dominion for over 700 million dollars, and all the statements that the court put on the record in the case, disagree.

[Necroghastia]

So we agree, there's nothing wrong with a media outlet that inflicts harm through it's regular disinformation campaigns losing access to a market.

Yes, if they are actualy spreading harm, and not just opinions that hurt your feelings.

Like an opinion that you are a child groomer?

[EuroStralia]

There was no disinformation about the election that was spread by Fox, nor about Dominion.

The lawsuit Fox Settled with Dominion for over 700 million dollars, and all the statements that the court put on the record in the case, disagree.

Dominion was mad that it got caught.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

The lawsuit Fox Settled with Dominion for over 700 million dollars, and all the statements that the court put on the record in the case, disagree.

Dominion was mad that it got caught.

Fox lied and now you're repeating their lies. This is evidence of the harm they've inflicted with their lies.

[EuroStralia]

Yes, if they are actualy spreading harm, and not just opinions that hurt your feelings.

Like an opinion that you are a child groomer?

That opinion holds no basis in reality.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

I hear a lot of people are saying EuroStralia is a groomer. I'm not saying it's true but there's a lot of online discussion and I think we need to ask why so many people are claiming it.

Like, I'm not saying that EuroStralia is necessarily a psychopathic liar. There's no proof of such a thing. I'm just saying that this sure is a lot of smoke coming from a person who claims to not be on fire, if you know what I mean. I mean, at some point someone has to ask the hard questions, you know?

[Necroghastia]

I'm pretty sure peddling disinformation about the election would count.
I'm pretty sure the lies they spread about Dominion would count.

They're notorious for lying and those lies regularly spread identifiable harm.

There was no disinformation about the election that was spread by Fox, nor about Dominion.

There's that 8th Commandment broken again. Why settle for almost a billion dollars if they were truthful? Where is the evidence in favor of Fox?

[Neu California]

The lawsuit Fox Settled with Dominion for over 700 million dollars, and all the statements that the court put on the record in the case, disagree.

Dominion was mad that it got caught.

Then why did Fox have to pay Dominion all that money?

And what of all the texts between Fox news hosts and leadership admitting that the election wasn't rigged? (Source)

As I recall, there was no proof of wrongdoing by Dominion. Feel free to prove otherwise.

[Necroghastia]

Like an opinion that you are a child groomer?

That opinion holds no basis in reality.

So what? It doesn't need to. All it needs to do is convince a few loons.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

I hear a lot of people are saying EuroStralia is a groomer. I'm not saying it's true but there's a lot of online discussion and I think we need to ask why so many people are claiming it.

Like, I'm not saying that EuroStralia is necessarily a psychopathic liar. There's no proof of such a thing. I'm just saying that this sure is a lot of smoke coming from a person who claims to not be on fire, if you know what I mean. I mean, at some point someone has to ask the hard questions, you know?

Someone has to take up the mantle of Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck and ask the hard questions.