Fox News could soon be banned from Canadian cable

[Nilokeras]

Good. Along with illegal Chinese interference in the politics and culture of Canada, it's important that we also target American political interference. We don't need agitprop from the opposition faction to the current American regime pumped into our airwaves.

Fox news isn't the same as Chinese or American political interference.

It absolutely is. It's media channel created by the American oligarch class as part of its never-ending factional dispute with the clique currently in charge. When the current clique gets ousted in a few years, it'll become the official propaganda channel of the new regime. Just pure Baathist-style nonsense. Ban it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Should Nelson Mandela have been beheaded by the South African government?

No, however, these are not the same situation. Don't red herring me. And for the record, I don't think that George Floyd deserved to die or any of that bull. I think that protest is justified. I do not think, however, that the scale of protest in reaction was justified at all. That, to me, is an example of the left escalating a situation into more violence.

Of course it's really insignificant in comparison to the rise of the alt-right, but I was arguing against the opinion that the left is completely innocent, which is...wrong.

America is hardly an improvement over Rhodesia lmao wrt how it treats ethnic minorities. Hence the comparison.

[EuroStralia]

No, however, these are not the same situation. Don't red herring me. And for the record, I don't think that George Floyd deserved to die or any of that bull. I think that protest is justified. I do not think, however, that the scale of protest in reaction was justified at all. That, to me, is an example of the left escalating a situation into more violence.

Of course it's really insignificant in comparison to the rise of the alt-right, but I was arguing against the opinion that the left is completely innocent, which is...wrong.

America is hardly an improvement over Rhodesia

That's a bold claim.

Fox news isn't the same as Chinese or American political interference.

It absolutely is. It's media channel created by the American oligarch class as part of its never-ending factional dispute with the clique currently in charge. When the current clique gets ousted in a few years, it'll become the official propaganda channel of the new regime. Just pure Baathist-style nonsense. Ban it.

It's a media station that broadcasts its own opinions, that's not "Baathist-style shit".

[The Pure Russia]

It's a media station that broadcasts its own opinions

What is the difference between the opinion of a Chinese official from the hypothetical Foreign Propaganda Bureau and that of an American oligarch?

[Nilokeras]

It's a media station that broadcasts its own opinions, that's not "Baathist-style shit".

A media station owned by the American oligarch class. Owned by a hereditary dynasty of business magnates, even its most popular presenter, the Baghdad Bob of the American political wasteland, is a scion of American dynastic wealth. Why should we engage with this sort of propaganda channel?

[EuroStralia]

It's a media station that broadcasts its own opinions

What is the difference between the opinion of a Chinese official from the hypothetical Foreign Propaganda Office and that of an American oligarch?

The Chinese government hate the west, they want to destroy America. They would broadcast opinions that have negative views on America, and would try to get the Canadians to join them.

[EuroStralia]

It's a media station that broadcasts its own opinions, that's not "Baathist-style shit".

A media station owned by the American oligarch class. Owned by a hereditary dynasty of business magnates, even its most popular presenter, the Baghdad Bob of the American political wasteland, is a scion of American dynastic wealth. Why should we engage this sort of propaganda channel?

Fox news is still a news station, not a government run propaganda channel, if you don't like it don't watch it.

[The Pure Russia]

What is the difference between the opinion of a Chinese official from the hypothetical Foreign Propaganda Office and that of an American oligarch?

The Chinese hate the west, they want to destroy America. They would broadcast opinions that have negative views on America, and would try to get the Canadians to join them.

You are a Canadian worker, what difference do you see between them?

A media station owned by the American oligarch class. Owned by a hereditary dynasty of business magnates, even its most popular presenter, the Baghdad Bob of the American political wasteland, is a scion of American dynastic wealth. Why should we engage this sort of propaganda channel?

Fox news is still a news station, not a government run propaganda channel, if you don't like it don't watch it.

What prevents you from not listening to the Voice of the CCP, not watching RT, not buying the Truth, and so on?

[Terra dei Cittadini]

What mass shooting in the States has been done in the name of Communism?

Communism, no. But I would consider the recent Covenant School shooting committed by a transgender youth against a Catholic school to have something to do with the culture wars. This is just me making an assumption based on the reactions of LGBT groups who don't want it released, and we can't know until its released of course. So I wouldn't count it.

And of course there was the BLM riots.

BLM is peaceful. Stop being a centrist and recognize a shooter is a shooter, and it doesn't matter if they're trans or not.

And yes, religion has been increasingly adverse to the liberty of the queer.

[EuroStralia]

The Chinese hate the west, they want to destroy America. They would broadcast opinions that have negative views on America, and would try to get the Canadians to join them.

You are a Canadian worker, what difference do you see between them?

The Chinese government is evil, the current American adminastration, is just incompetent.

[The Pure Russia]

BLM is peaceful.

Are you ready to sign these words?

[EuroStralia]

Communism, no. But I would consider the recent Covenant School shooting committed by a transgender youth against a Catholic school to have something to do with the culture wars. This is just me making an assumption based on the reactions of LGBT groups who don't want it released, and we can't know until its released of course. So I wouldn't count it.

And of course there was the BLM riots.

BLM is peaceful. Stop being a centrist and recognize a shooter is a shooter, and it doesn't matter if they're trans or not.

And yes, religion has been increasingly adverse to the liberty of the queer.

BLM wasn't peaceful.

[Nilokeras]

Fox news is still a news station, not a government run propaganda channel, if you don't like it don't watch it.

It speaks on behalf of the American political faction that still considers itself the legitimate government of that strife-ridden country, frequently broadcasting messages from the compound of its internally exiled former president and his government-in-waiting.

Again, why should we allow this sort of propaganda to be broadcast in Canada? At best, its merely an irrelevant distraction, at worst, a vehicle for that faction to meddle in Canadian affairs.

[The Pure Russia]

You are a Canadian worker, what difference do you see between them?

The Chinese government is evil, the current American adminastration, is just incompetent.

The Chinese polity wants to use you for enrichment and political purposes, the American oligarchs want to use you for enrichment and political purposes.

[Galactic Powers]

Communism, no. But I would consider the recent Covenant School shooting committed by a transgender youth against a Catholic school to have something to do with the culture wars. This is just me making an assumption based on the reactions of LGBT groups who don't want it released, and we can't know until its released of course. So I wouldn't count it.

And of course there was the BLM riots.

BLM is peaceful. Stop being a centrist and recognize a shooter is a shooter, and it doesn't matter if they're trans or not.

And yes, religion has been increasingly adverse to the liberty of the queer.

Is "centrist" the new "liberal" as an insult? I'm not, by the way. BLM was not peaceful btw. You can think it was justified if you want. But it wasn't peaceful.

And yes, a shooter is a shooter. But if attacks by white people on groups of minorities are political, why is a trans person shooting up a Catholic school not? Nothing justifies shooting innocent children.

No, however, these are not the same situation. Don't red herring me. And for the record, I don't think that George Floyd deserved to die or any of that bull. I think that protest is justified. I do not think, however, that the scale of protest in reaction was justified at all. That, to me, is an example of the left escalating a situation into more violence.

Of course it's really insignificant in comparison to the rise of the alt-right, but I was arguing against the opinion that the left is completely innocent, which is...wrong.

America is hardly an improvement over Rhodesia lmao wrt how it treats ethnic minorities. Hence the comparison.

I would be interested if you would further clarify how you mean. This is a bold claim to make.

[EuroStralia]

Fox news is still a news station, not a government run propaganda channel, if you don't like it don't watch it.

It speaks on behalf of the American political faction that still considers itself the legitimate government of that strife-ridden country, frequently broadcasting messages from the compound of its internally exiled former president and his government-in-waiting.

Again, why should we allow this sort of propaganda to be broadcast in Canada? At best, its merely an irrelevant distraction, at worst, a vehicle for that faction to meddle in Canadian affairs.

Fox having different views about President Trump and his administration than you doesn't make them propaganda.

[Nilokeras]

It speaks on behalf of the American political faction that still considers itself the legitimate government of that strife-ridden country, frequently broadcasting messages from the compound of its internally exiled former president and his government-in-waiting.

Again, why should we allow this sort of propaganda to be broadcast in Canada? At best, its merely an irrelevant distraction, at worst, a vehicle for that faction to meddle in Canadian affairs.

Fox having different views about President Trump and his administration than you doesn't make them propaganda.

'Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.[1] Propaganda can be found in a wide variety of different contexts.'

Again, why should we allow this sort of propaganda to be broadcast in Canada? At best, its merely an irrelevant distraction, at worst, a vehicle for that faction to meddle in Canadian affairs.

[EuroStralia]

Fox having different views about President Trump and his administration than you doesn't make them propaganda.

'Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.[1] Propaganda can be found in a wide variety of different contexts.'

Again, why should we allow this sort of propaganda to be broadcast in Canada? At best, its merely an irrelevant distraction, at worst, a vehicle for that faction to meddle in Canadian affairs.

Let's also ban CNN then to.

[Nilokeras]

'Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented.[1] Propaganda can be found in a wide variety of different contexts.'

Again, why should we allow this sort of propaganda to be broadcast in Canada? At best, its merely an irrelevant distraction, at worst, a vehicle for that faction to meddle in Canadian affairs.

Let's also ban CNN then to.

Yes, we should. All sides of the tiresome internal conflict amongst the American oligarch class should be banned - not the least because they all just as eagerly interfere in Canadian affairs.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Communism, no. But I would consider the recent Covenant School shooting committed by a transgender youth against a Catholic school to have something to do with the culture wars. This is just me making an assumption based on the reactions of LGBT groups who don't want it released, and we can't know until its released of course. So I wouldn't count it.

And of course there was the BLM riots.

BLM is peaceful. Stop being a centrist and recognize a shooter is a shooter, and it doesn't matter if they're trans or not.

And yes, religion has been increasingly adverse to the liberty of the queer.

These people are about as centrist as Ian Smith or Chairman Xi was/is working for peace and harmony.

[Equai]

You are a Canadian worker, what difference do you see between them?

The Chinese government is evil, the current American adminastration, is just incompetent.

"China bad USA good" pathethic. China wasn't the one dropping depleted uranium over middle east, drone strike innocent people wedding ceremonies, pushing countries into civil wars etc. Don't need to be an Empire's bootlicker. Your genocidal creation known as the USA is not innocent and deserves all hate it gets from countries they turned into a war zone.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

America is hardly an improvement over Rhodesia lmao wrt how it treats ethnic minorities. Hence the comparison.

I would be interested if you would further clarify how you mean. This is a bold claim to make.

Did you miss how many black people get slaughtered by day in the American low level "counter-insurgency" or what?

[EuroStralia]

The Chinese government is evil, the current American adminastration, is just incompetent.

"China bad USA good" pathethic. China wasn't the one dropping depleted uranium over middle east, drone strike innocent people wedding ceremonies, pushing countries into civil wars etc. Don't need to be an Empire's bootlicker. Your genocidal creation known as the USA is not innocent and deserves all hate it gets from countries they turned into a war zone.

America isn't commiting genocide.

[EuroStralia]

I would be interested if you would further clarify how you mean. This is a bold claim to make.

Did you miss how many black people get slaughtered by day in the American low level "counter-insurgency" or what?

Black people getting killed isn't by the government for the basis of their skin anymore.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Used to get honest conservatives on NS people could respect.
Nowadays we just get the lot who lie and deny even more than Dmitry Peskov.