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Postby Ventura Bay » Sun May 14, 2023 11:46 am

Equai wrote:Canada is a sovereign country hence they posses right to ban a harmful foreign channel if they so choose. After all people like you rallied for RT to be banned which is the same bullshit as FoxNews just from another country.

I'm not sure who you're saying rallied for RT to be banned, but it sure as hell wasn't me.

And yeah Canada can do what it likes, but people like yourself would immediately fly into a crying rage if the Trump administration moved to ban CNN.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 11:47 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Equai wrote:Canada is a sovereign country hence they posses right to ban a harmful foreign channel if they so choose. After all people like you rallied for RT to be banned which is the same bullshit as FoxNews just from another country.

I'm not sure who you're saying rallied for RT to be banned, but it sure as hell wasn't me.

And yeah Canada can do what it likes, but people like yourself would immediately fly into a crying rage if the Trump administration moved to ban CNN.

Do I look like I give a damn about the richbois at CNN?
What convinced you that I would?

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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sun May 14, 2023 11:48 am

It is generally accepted that the modern conception of free speech does not extend to the freedom to spread falsehoods that unduly tarnish a person's reputation. We call this libel and it is a crime.

I am not, generally, opposed to extending this principle to groups as well as individuals; it should be illegal to spread falsehoods that unduly tarnish the reputation of a culturally or demographically distinct group of people.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun May 14, 2023 11:49 am

Ventura Bay wrote:"Centrism is bad"

"yes, centrism is bad"

"centrism is so bad? yes, i agree"

Jesus, this place is such an echo chamber.

You're free to actually debate and discuss if you actually have a point tou want to raise or question.
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Postby Ventura Bay » Sun May 14, 2023 11:49 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:I'm not sure who you're saying rallied for RT to be banned, but it sure as hell wasn't me.

And yeah Canada can do what it likes, but people like yourself would immediately fly into a crying rage if the Trump administration moved to ban CNN.

Do I look like I give a damn about the richbois at CNN?
What convinced you that I would?

I don't think you do at all, but I do think that, if Trump banned them, you'd be beside yourself.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 11:51 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Do I look like I give a damn about the richbois at CNN?
What convinced you that I would?

I don't think you do at all, but I do think that, if Trump banned them, you'd be beside yourself.

Are you doing quite alright?

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Postby Equai » Sun May 14, 2023 11:53 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Equai wrote:Canada is a sovereign country hence they posses right to ban a harmful foreign channel if they so choose. After all people like you rallied for RT to be banned which is the same bullshit as FoxNews just from another country.

I'm not sure who you're saying rallied for RT to be banned, but it sure as hell wasn't me.

And yeah Canada can do what it likes, but people like yourself would immediately fly into a crying rage if the Trump administration moved to ban CNN.


Ban CNN too. Its still a capitalist news media outlet paddling American imperialism just painted in blue or rainbow during June. CNN is what Fox News is but if we don't say the quiet part out loud. Granted, CNN is more easier to swallow since they don't outright say they want to murder you. Something that you obviously don't know about me is that I am not American, not even from the west. If Canada wanted to ban CNN my response would've been the same. Unlike Americans I don't need to pretend one is better then the other because being Fox or CNN it doesn't matter, both of those news outlets led to many countries being unjustifiably bombed with depleted uranium while supporting American imperialism abroad. That being said, you still haven't replied to the first section.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 11:57 am

The to be or not to be of American, or British, or even Swedish television channels and news orgs matter less to me than what I'm going to be eating for dinner tomorrow or what I'm doing on Azur Lane today. The idea that I care about them to the extent described by some delusional statements is... baffling.

Fox News getting yeeted because it's a stochastic terrorist is great though.
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 12:54 pm

If you think that FOX isn't a stochastic terrorist group posing as a news network, you're either a centrist or a rightist.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun May 14, 2023 12:55 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:If you think that FOX isn't a stochastic terrorist group posing as a news network, you're either a centrist or a rightist.

"Stochastic terrorism" wtf is that?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 12:58 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:If you think that FOX isn't a stochastic terrorist group posing as a news network, you're either a centrist or a rightist.

"Stochastic terrorism" wtf is that?

The use of mass public communication, usually against a particular individual or group, which
  1. incites or inspires acts of terrorism which are statistically probable but happen seemingly at random,
  2. perpetuates fear through coverage of seemingly random acts of terrorism.

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Postby The Pure Russia » Sun May 14, 2023 12:58 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:If you think that FOX isn't a stochastic terrorist group posing as a news network, you're either a centrist or a rightist.

What is so terrorist about Fox News? It's just right-wing media.
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 1:01 pm

The Pure Russia wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:If you think that FOX isn't a stochastic terrorist group posing as a news network, you're either a centrist or a rightist.

What is so terrorist about Fox News? It's just right-wing media.

It actively demonizes queers. It causes terrorism by conservative peoples.

Look it up. Right-wing extremism is on the rise. The left is innocent of any wrongdoing.
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Postby Equai » Sun May 14, 2023 1:04 pm

The Pure Russia wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:If you think that FOX isn't a stochastic terrorist group posing as a news network, you're either a centrist or a rightist.

What is so terrorist about Fox News? It's just right-wing media.

FoxNews is not terrorist in conventional sense of the word. they do stochastic terrorism - Their hate and demonetization of leftists and marginalized people give already bigoted and reactionary people purpose and duty to actively harm groups of people they spread hate about.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 1:05 pm

Equai wrote:
The Pure Russia wrote:What is so terrorist about Fox News? It's just right-wing media.

FoxNews is not terrorist in conventional sense of the word. they do stochastic terrorism - Their hate and demonetization of leftists and marginalized people give already bigoted and reactionary people purpose and duty to actively harm groups of people they spread hate about.

Or put it this way:
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Postby The Marmara Republic » Sun May 14, 2023 1:06 pm

I once read a book where a asteroid hit the moon and everyone was freaking out, the scene went something like this.

“Mom what do we do?”
“See if CNN is on!”
“CNN’s not on here, should i try Fox News?”
“We’re desperate, not insane!”

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Postby Galactic Powers » Sun May 14, 2023 1:06 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:
The Pure Russia wrote:What is so terrorist about Fox News? It's just right-wing media.

It actively demonizes queers. It causes terrorism by conservative peoples.

Look it up. Right-wing extremism is on the rise. The left is innocent of any wrongdoing.

Innocent of any wrongdoing? Hah. The right is clearly responsible for most of the violence in America for the past few years but lets not let the left get off the hook scot-free.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 1:07 pm

Galactic Powers wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:It actively demonizes queers. It causes terrorism by conservative peoples.

Look it up. Right-wing extremism is on the rise. The left is innocent of any wrongdoing.

Innocent of any wrongdoing? Hah. The right is clearly responsible for most of the violence in America for the past few years but lets not let the left get off the hook scot-free.

What mass shooting in the States has been done in the name of Communism?

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Postby Nilokeras » Sun May 14, 2023 1:07 pm

Good. Along with illegal Chinese interference in the politics and culture of Canada, it's important that we also target American political interference. We don't need agitprop from the opposition faction to the current American regime pumped into our airwaves.
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 1:10 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Galactic Powers wrote:Innocent of any wrongdoing? Hah. The right is clearly responsible for most of the violence in America for the past few years but lets not let the left get off the hook scot-free.

What mass shooting in the States has been done in the name of Communism?

None.
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Postby Galactic Powers » Sun May 14, 2023 1:12 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Galactic Powers wrote:Innocent of any wrongdoing? Hah. The right is clearly responsible for most of the violence in America for the past few years but lets not let the left get off the hook scot-free.

What mass shooting in the States has been done in the name of Communism?

Communism, no. But I would consider the recent Covenant School shooting committed by a transgender youth against a Catholic school to have something to do with the culture wars. This is just me making an assumption based on the reactions of LGBT groups who don't want it released, and we can't know until its released of course. So I wouldn't count it.

And of course there was the BLM riots.
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Postby The Pure Russia » Sun May 14, 2023 1:14 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Galactic Powers wrote:Innocent of any wrongdoing? Hah. The right is clearly responsible for most of the violence in America for the past few years but lets not let the left get off the hook scot-free.

What mass shooting in the States has been done in the name of Communism?

To my great regret, the "leftists" are not only communists.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 1:15 pm

Galactic Powers wrote:And of course there was the BLM riots.

Should Nelson Mandela have been beheaded by the South African government?

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Postby EuroStralia » Sun May 14, 2023 1:16 pm

Nilokeras wrote:Good. Along with illegal Chinese interference in the politics and culture of Canada, it's important that we also target American political interference. We don't need agitprop from the opposition faction to the current American regime pumped into our airwaves.

Fox news isn't the same as Chinese or American political interference.
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Postby Galactic Powers » Sun May 14, 2023 1:22 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Galactic Powers wrote:And of course there was the BLM riots.

Should Nelson Mandela have been beheaded by the South African government?

No, however, these are not the same situation. Don't red herring me. And for the record, I don't think that George Floyd deserved to die or any of that bull. I think that protest is justified. I do not think, however, that the scale of protest in reaction was justified at all. That, to me, is an example of the left escalating a situation into more violence.

Of course it's really insignificant in comparison to the rise of the alt-right, but I was arguing against the opinion that the left is completely innocent, which is...wrong.
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