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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 9:13 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:
So, we all know that Fox haven't promoted violence against the LGBT.

And opposing the LGBT isn't the same as "inciting hatred" against them. It's just the latest censorship of an untrendy opinion.

Yeah, painting a whole demographic as rapist pedophiles who want to brainwash your children into a cult is not and could not ever incite any kind of hatred.

God. Would it kill y'all to at least try.

I swear, if the Nazis painting Jews as atrocities against humankind incited hatred and violence, then FOX painting queers as rapists and pedophiles will have a worse - if not identical - effect.

Insane how some people are so ignorant to how the right-wing is trying to instate an auto-theocracy.
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Postby Ventura Bay » Sun May 14, 2023 9:14 am

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:So, we all know that Fox haven't promoted violence against the LGBT.

And opposing the LGBT isn't the same as "inciting hatred" against them. It's just the latest censorship of an untrendy opinion.

Hello!?

You think that calling trans people "groomers" and saying "leftists will kill America" won't incite violence?

Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment", allowing children to attend parades and bringing sex toys into a school.

And saying "leftists will kill America" doesn't incite violence at all, it's an opinion.
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 9:16 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Hello!?

You think that calling trans people "groomers" and saying "leftists will kill America" won't incite violence?

Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment", allowing children to attend parades and bringing sex toys into a school.

And saying "leftists will kill America" doesn't incite violence at all, it's an opinion.

Prove it.

If FOX's rhetoric inciting violence is an "opinion, prove it.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun May 14, 2023 9:16 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Hello!?

You think that calling trans people "groomers" and saying "leftists will kill America" won't incite violence?

Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment", allowing children to attend parades and bringing sex toys into a school.

And saying "leftists will kill America" doesn't incite violence at all, it's an opinion.

This is 100% bullshit and Canada doesn't want it, and thus can ban it.

Cope.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun May 14, 2023 9:17 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment", allowing children to attend parades and bringing sex toys into a school.

And saying "leftists will kill America" doesn't incite violence at all, it's an opinion.

This is 100% bullshit and Canada doesn't want it, and thus can ban it.

Cope.

It may be bullshit but it's the government that has lost the popular vote twice in a row that wants to ban it, not the people.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 9:17 am

Ventura Bay wrote:Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment", allowing children to attend parades and bringing sex toys into a school.

And saying "leftists will kill America" doesn't incite violence at all, it's an opinion.

This is little different from the methods of actual virulent racists, in addition to the stochastic terrorism and ardent refusal to admit personal failings.

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Postby Ventura Bay » Sun May 14, 2023 9:18 am

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment", allowing children to attend parades and bringing sex toys into a school.

And saying "leftists will kill America" doesn't incite violence at all, it's an opinion.

Prove it.

If FOX's rhetoric inciting violence is an "opinion, prove it.

Uh, what...? Prove they haven't incited violence?

Unless they've told people to go out and commit violent acts, they haven't incited violence.

"prove it" :rofl:
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun May 14, 2023 9:19 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:This is 100% bullshit and Canada doesn't want it, and thus can ban it.

Cope.

It may be bullshit but it's the government that has lost the popular vote twice in a row that wants to ban it, not the people.



The Canadian populace not liking the government doesn't mean there is this silent majority that is with you and Fox. There isn't.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 9:20 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Prove it.

If FOX's rhetoric inciting violence is an "opinion, prove it.

Uh, what...? Prove they haven't incited violence?

Unless they've told people to go out and commit violent acts, they haven't incited violence.

"prove it" :rofl:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:So, we all know that Fox haven't promoted violence against the LGBT.

And opposing the LGBT isn't the same as "inciting hatred" against them. It's just the latest censorship of an untrendy opinion.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:The idea that you can be a Nazi-esque antisemite to your heart's content, talk nonstop about the Jewish banksters and blood libel and how the Jews are literally chucking dead babies in wells... but if you stop before crying "Death to the Jews" it's all fine and dandy...
Well that's sheer insanity.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I think we all understand that it is entirely possible to be extremely vulgar and violent without being explicit about it by virtue of posting on NS...
How this connection is not made with regards to Fox News's enablement is beyond me.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun May 14, 2023 9:21 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Prove it.

If FOX's rhetoric inciting violence is an "opinion, prove it.

Uh, what...? Prove they haven't incited violence?

Unless they've told people to go out and commit violent acts, they haven't incited violence.

"prove it" :rofl:

"Owning the libs" on NationStates isn't going to rescind that ban if they do enact it btw.

So again, Cope.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun May 14, 2023 9:24 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:Hello!?

You think that calling trans people "groomers" and saying "leftists will kill America" won't incite violence?

Calling them groomers is a result of the constant creepy and weird behavior, such as encouraging children to undergo "treatment",

Oh no! Not the scare quotes!
What "treatment" would this be? :roll:
allowing children to attend parades

So what?
and bringing sex toys into a school.

Lol. Let me guess. You also believe the litter boxes for furries BS. :roll:
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Postby Ventura Bay » Sun May 14, 2023 9:24 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:Uh, what...? Prove they haven't incited violence?

Unless they've told people to go out and commit violent acts, they haven't incited violence.

"prove it" :rofl:

"Owning the libs" on NationStates isn't going to rescind that ban if they do enact it btw.

So again, Cope.

Ok...? :rofl:
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Sun May 14, 2023 9:25 am

I think the problem with Fox is that it's being marketed as "news" and it isn't actually news. It's an issue of false advertising.

If people are up front that what they're saying is just opinion and not fact, then I don't agree with censoring it -- but Fox is not up front about that. They present things as factual when it's complete bullshit. They market themselves as news, but then they run stories that they know are not true.

Anti-LGBT content wouldn't be at the top of my list of reasons to ban Fox. Top of my list would be the fact that it's a scam. But Canada is still well within its rights to remove it from Canadian cable.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 9:26 am

The Sherpa Empire wrote:I think the problem with Fox is that it's being marketed as "news" and it isn't actually news. It's an issue of false advertising.

It's not Der Stürmer, but personalities like Tucker Carlson thinks there are no problems imitating Der Stürmer.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun May 14, 2023 9:28 am

Ventura Bay wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:"Owning the libs" on NationStates isn't going to rescind that ban if they do enact it btw.

So again, Cope.

Ok...? :rofl:

That's right. :lol2:
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Postby Cook-Out » Sun May 14, 2023 10:59 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:So, we all know that Fox haven't promoted violence against the LGBT.

And opposing the LGBT isn't the same as "inciting hatred" against them. It's just the latest censorship of an untrendy opinion.

Yeah, painting a whole demographic as rapist pedophiles who want to brainwash your children into a cult is not and could not ever incite any kind of hatred.

God. Would it kill y'all to at least try.


Earlier, people in this thread were painting all Republicans, an even larger demographic, as wanting to quite literally kill anyone who is not
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:confessing to their religion of White Anglo-Saxon Aggressively Heterosexual "Protestantism"

The hypocrisy is unreal.

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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 11:12 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Yeah, painting a whole demographic as rapist pedophiles who want to brainwash your children into a cult is not and could not ever incite any kind of hatred.

God. Would it kill y'all to at least try.


Earlier, people in this thread were painting all Republicans, an even larger demographic, as wanting to quite literally kill anyone who is not
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:confessing to their religion of White Anglo-Saxon Aggressively Heterosexual "Protestantism"

The hypocrisy is unreal.

My god, the centrists have invaded the thread.

Allow to ask why you Belvie such, when the GOP has banned HRT (which increases trans suicide), prohibited teaching the civil right movement, and have recently required the 10 commandments to be displayed in schools? Is that not enough proof to show they are what you claim they're not?
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun May 14, 2023 11:21 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Yeah, painting a whole demographic as rapist pedophiles who want to brainwash your children into a cult is not and could not ever incite any kind of hatred.

God. Would it kill y'all to at least try.


Earlier, people in this thread were painting all Republicans, an even larger demographic, as wanting to quite literally kill anyone who is not

I mean, again, we have virtually every right wing group, including the CPAC, platforming blatant lies and inciting hatred. Things that have led to murder. Things that lead to oppressive conditions that exacerbate depression and suicidality. Some Republicans, maybe even a plurality, would not want to bloody their own hands but being complicit and apathetic? But of course.
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Postby Equai » Sun May 14, 2023 11:25 am

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Earlier, people in this thread were painting all Republicans, an even larger demographic, as wanting to quite literally kill anyone who is not

The hypocrisy is unreal.

My god, the centrists have invaded the thread.

Allow to ask why you Belvie such, when the GOP has banned HRT (which increases trans suicide), prohibited teaching the civil right movement, and have recently required the 10 commandments to be displayed in schools? Is that not enough proof to show they are what you claim they're not?

Centrists being complicit with right-wing propaganda? They could never. Sarcasm aside, they just do what centrists do best - amplify right-wing bullshit
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 11:26 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Earlier, people in this thread were painting all Republicans, an even larger demographic, as wanting to quite literally kill anyone who is not

I mean, again, we have virtually every right wing group, including the CPAC, platforming blatant lies and inciting hatred. Things that have led to murder. Things that lead to oppressive conditions that exacerbate depression and suicidality. Some Republicans, maybe even a plurality, would not want to bloody their own hands but being complicit and apathetic? But of course.

Yep. If you stand centrist in genocide, you're also held responsible.

Overall, best not to engage with centrists. They'd believe that a compromise on the rights of the marginalized would be favorable compared to liberation and letting them be treated like human beings.
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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sun May 14, 2023 11:30 am

Equai wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:My god, the centrists have invaded the thread.

Allow to ask why you Belvie such, when the GOP has banned HRT (which increases trans suicide), prohibited teaching the civil right movement, and have recently required the 10 commandments to be displayed in schools? Is that not enough proof to show they are what you claim they're not?

Centrists being complicit with right-wing propaganda? They could never. Sarcasm aside, they just do what centrists do best - amplify right-wing bullshit

Yep. If you look hard enough, any sane person can see that centrism is a facade for complicity and enablement of hate.

If you agree with conservatism's rejection of liberty, and you say that "both sides" are bad, you do not recognize the good and the bad.
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Postby Ventura Bay » Sun May 14, 2023 11:31 am

"Centrism is bad"

"yes, centrism is bad"

"centrism is so bad? yes, i agree"

Jesus, this place is such an echo chamber.
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Postby Equai » Sun May 14, 2023 11:39 am

Ventura Bay wrote:"Centrism is bad"

"yes, centrism is bad"

"centrism is so bad? yes, i agree"

Jesus, this place is such an echo chamber.

NSG is an echo chamber? For right wingers yeah. Find me a thread about anything remotely leftist. It doesn't have to be socialist just left of center on this forum that doesn't have bunch of trumpists spreading lies and hate on it. Anyway to not diverge from the topic - Canada is a sovereign country hence they posses right to ban a harmful foreign channel if they so choose. After all people like you rallied for RT to be banned which is the same bullshit as FoxNews just from another country.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun May 14, 2023 11:44 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Yeah, painting a whole demographic as rapist pedophiles who want to brainwash your children into a cult is not and could not ever incite any kind of hatred.

God. Would it kill y'all to at least try.


Earlier, people in this thread were painting all Republicans, an even larger demographic, as wanting to quite literally kill anyone who is not
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:confessing to their religion of White Anglo-Saxon Aggressively Heterosexual "Protestantism"

The hypocrisy is unreal.

If you believe considering people not Aggressively Male and Heterosexual your neighbours, per your Christian duty is too onerous a task, then you are welcome to move to places where they lynch them instead. I heard Russia is in desperate need for warm bodies.
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Postby Cook-Out » Sun May 14, 2023 11:46 am

Equai wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:"Centrism is bad"

"yes, centrism is bad"

"centrism is so bad? yes, i agree"

Jesus, this place is such an echo chamber.

NSG is an echo chamber? For right wingers yeah. Find me a thread about anything remotely leftist. It doesn't have to be socialist just left of center on this forum that doesn't have bunch of trumpists spreading lies and hate on it. Anyway to not diverge from the topic - Canada is a sovereign country hence they posses right to ban a harmful foreign channel if they so choose. After all people like you rallied for RT to be banned which is the same bullshit as FoxNews just from another country.


What a complete joke. Any post remotely right of center is immediately eviscerated. If you can't see that then you haven't been reading the forums.

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