Fox News could soon be banned from Canadian cable

[Terminus Station]

why is this even controversial? Their pundits advocated invading us.

[EuroStralia]

why is this even controversial? Their pundits advocated invading us.

When did they advocate invading Canada?

[Arvenia]

why is this even controversial? Their pundits advocated invading us.

When did they advocate invading Canada?

Tucker Carlson said that the US should invade Canada. I found out about that after doing a recent Google Search today.

[Fahran]

Tucker Carlson said that the US should invade Canada. I found out about that after doing a recent Google Search today.

Kinda based. Ngl.

[Drongonia]

Something something freedom and democracy something something "this is good anyway".

Canada is a joke country and this is just another example of that. You want to ban an entire news channel because someone said hurty words? Literal butthurt reddit nation.

[Fahran]

Something something freedom and democracy something something "this is good anyway".

Canada is a joke country and this is just another example of that. You want to ban an entire news channel because someone said hurty words? Literal butthurt reddit nation.

It's probably a more deliberate effort at censorship that happens to appeal with progressive values. One can, of course, rationalize it every which way, but it's not really terribly different from what China or Russia does.

[EuroStralia]

Something something freedom and democracy something something "this is good anyway".

Canada is a joke country and this is just another example of that. You want to ban an entire news channel because someone said hurty words? Literal butthurt reddit nation.

But, but, Fox is FaScIsT PrOpAgAnDa.

[Fahran]

But, but, Fox is FaScIsT PrOpAgAnDa.

The closest they've really gotten is alt-lite borrowings from white supremacist and QAnon conspiracy theories. Beyond those two examples, a lot of the perspectives espoused by FOX aren't really all that radical compared to right-wing perspectives in the 1990s and 2000s. The idea that the political right has become more right-wing is a bit laughable given we can trace expressed opinions between the 1990s and 2020s. I honestly doubt right-wing violence can even match the levels present in the 1990s, y'know the high point of the militia movement. We've tilted leftward and the current mobilization is largely a response to that - one that is likely to flounder in the long-term even as the left implodes on itself because their ideas are incoherent and infeasible.

[Drongonia]

But, but, Fox is FaScIsT PrOpAgAnDa.

The closest they've really gotten is alt-lite borrowings from white supremacist and QAnon conspiracy theories. Beyond those two examples, a lot of the perspectives espoused by FOX aren't really all that radical compared to right-wing perspectives in the 1990s and 2000s. The idea that the political right has become more right-wing is a bit laughable given we can trace expressed opinions between the 1990s and 2020s. I honestly doubt right-wing violence can even match the levels present in the 1990s, y'know the high point of the militia movement. We've tilted leftward and the current mobilization is largely a response to that - one that is likely to flounder in the long-term even as the left implodes on itself because their ideas are incoherent and infeasible.

Correct take.

FOX News is just the GOP from ~2010, or the Democrats from 1995.

[Arvenia]

But, but, Fox is FaScIsT PrOpAgAnDa.

The closest they've really gotten is alt-lite borrowings from white supremacist and QAnon conspiracy theories. Beyond those two examples, a lot of the perspectives espoused by FOX aren't really all that radical compared to right-wing perspectives in the 1990s and 2000s. The idea that the political right has become more right-wing is a bit laughable given we can trace expressed opinions between the 1990s and 2020s. I honestly doubt right-wing violence can even match the levels present in the 1990s, y'know the high point of the militia movement. We've tilted leftward and the current mobilization is largely a response to that - one that is likely to flounder in the long-term even as the left implodes on itself because their ideas are incoherent and infeasible.

Also, Tucker Carlson did pretty cringe takes during his time at Fox News. For example, he complained about M&M's being less sexy.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Something something freedom and democracy something something "this is good anyway".

Canada is a joke country and this is just another example of that. You want to ban an entire news channel because someone said hurty words? Literal butthurt reddit nation.

You're a self-admitted fascist. Words pathetically hurt you lot the second you're in power.

Suddenly you're going to LARP as a free speech absolutist? Makes me totally believe that Fox, the GOP, etc. are not simply aligned with your values.

Also, considering that you fascists want to censor a lot more than some fake news channel, calling others "butthurt redditors" is very ironic, as those words apply to you lot more than they apply to anyone else.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

I do think fox is stupid money grubbing nonsense designed to be consumed by boomers, but banning it is a little too far. Hell, ban CNN while you are at it.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Tucker Carlson said that the US should invade Canada. I found out about that after doing a recent Google Search today.

Kinda based. Ngl.

Putting people in caskets because of the minor inconvenience of having to access Fox News online as opposed to over cable. Assuming they even ban it from cable, since they probably won't.

Why am I not surprised you'd have that take?

[Atlantic Isles]

Not a fan of Fox. I think they're a major problem for the global political climate and that they're exceptionally divisive and at times misinformative.

However.

Banning Fox sets a dangerous precedent. Once a far-right (or maybe not even that far right) leader comes to power, Fox gets the OK and left-leaning media gets shut down.

Additionally, who comes in to fill that vacuum? I can see a path for even further-right media to come and fill the gap with an exceptionally dangerous volume of misinformation. That would be bad.

There's also just the moral wrong of banning something purely because it doesn't align with your ideology.

Food for thought.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Honestly, I don't think they're even going to ban it.


They're considering banning it, but I don't think they will.

[Cerespasia]

I don't get why and how Fox News is mired so deeply in controversy.

[Fahran]

Also, Tucker Carlson did pretty cringe takes during his time at Fox News. For example, he complained about M&M's being less sexy.

Counter-Point: That was hilarious. Reject e-girls, simp for the candy mascot coded as an empowered, sexually liberated, black woman.

[Fahran]

Putting people in caskets because of the minor inconvenience of having to access Fox News online as opposed to over cable. Assuming they even ban it from cable, since they probably won't.

Why am I not surprised you'd have that take?

1. One would think the humorous tone was obvious. Especially given how ridiculous avenging the War of 1812 by making Canada North North Dakota would be.

2. Nobody mentioned putting people in caskets, and I doubt the existence of boomer television is going to lead directly to actual deaths. Generally, you need a stronger poison for that. One could potentially make an argument about systemic violence, but that’s a can of worms we probably shouldn’t open given it justifies my meme-tier arch-conservative reaction whereby all y’all get married, have three kids, go to synagogue, burn the poetry of the beatniks, and reject social atomization in favor of kinship and community.

3. I actually believe Canada reserves the power to censor media. I just happen to believe doing so is both illiberal and likely contrary to Canadian law. Something something democratic backsliding. Sadly, the US and Canada have dweebs for strongmen.

[Fahran]

I don't get why and how Fox News is mired so deeply in controversy.

‘Cause they suck.

If it’s not them talking about books turning the heckin’ kids trans, then it’s them competing with CNN and the BBC to see whose anchors can commit the most sex crimes.

[Western Theram]

This isn’t about freedom of speech. It’s about a dangerous amount of disinformation flooding the media with ridiculous qanon conspiracies. They’ve played this game before. Just pay out a few million and go about business as usual until the next controversy then pay out another defamation suit but don’t tell their audience about it! In fact double down on the lies!

[Western Theram]

In fact they’ll keep up
Their lies and conspiracies unless they’re taken off the air

[Heavenly Assault]

If it ever comes, I look forward to the day when we view censorship like this in a similar vein to how we currently view witch burnings - a product of intellectual cowardice and intolerance. It's 2023 and we're still banning books and media. Holy shit. Like I said, today's "liberalism" is just another strain of conservative backwardness.

[Fahran]

In fact they’ll keep up
Their lies and conspiracies unless they’re taken off the air

If only we could create a ministry to ensure all reporting was true…

[Western Theram]

If it ever comes, I look forward to the day when we view censorship like this in a similar vein to how we currently view witch burnings - a product of intellectual cowardice and intolerance. It's 2023 and we're still banning books and media. Holy shit. Like I said, today's "liberalism" is just another strain of conservative backwardness.

Conservatives wanna ban things cause it’s not religious or has naughty/gay stuff. Last I checked leftists weren’t the ones burning books. The populace obviously can’t fact check themselves. That’s why they turn to news outlets such as fox. Because it gives them a clear scapegoat of who to blame. “It’s the gays/Muslims/woke hippies/etc” they’ve proven themselves repeatedly that they cannot uphold the truth, therefore they cannot be allowed to spread their lies

[Heavenly Assault]

If it ever comes, I look forward to the day when we view censorship like this in a similar vein to how we currently view witch burnings - a product of intellectual cowardice and intolerance. It's 2023 and we're still banning books and media. Holy shit. Like I said, today's "liberalism" is just another strain of conservative backwardness.

Conservatives wanna ban things cause it’s not religious or has naughty/gay stuff. Last I checked leftists weren’t the ones burning books. The populace obviously can’t fact check themselves. That’s why they turn to news outlets such as fox. Because it gives them a clear scapegoat of who to blame. “It’s the gays/Muslims/woke hippies/etc” they’ve proven themselves repeatedly that they cannot uphold the truth, therefore they cannot be allowed to spread their lies

And yet here you are, advocating banning something to take away agency of thought for the perceived health of society, just like a conservative.