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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sat May 13, 2023 11:46 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Which is great because Canada is trying to prevent the society-destroying malaise from illegally immigrating. This is decried as fascism because American society is so fucking broken it doesn't even realise it's trying to harm other societies around it.

Fox News is a bogeyman to you people. Fox News is not the cause of civilization collapse.

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Postby Cyber Duotona » Sat May 13, 2023 11:47 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:1. Me: "Canada bans Fox News because Fox News is trying to destroy Canadian society in the name of profit"
2. You: "But Canada is a fascist hellscape"

See how those things do not connect logically whatsofuckingever?

Banning media is fascist. That is just a simple fact. Sorry that you can't recognize that.

What, does that mean the USSR, North Korea and China are all fascist now? Not every authoritarian regime is a fascist one, and this decision is hardly going to turn Canada into one.
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Postby Aicrowian Canada » Sat May 13, 2023 11:47 am

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I am perfectly ok with LGBTQ people, They can do whatever they want as long as it is OK for kids, But what about the Non-Canadians from Russia, Poland or Hungary who moved to Canada? they don't believe that LGBTQ is aloud. But is it ok to insult them for what they think?

I feel like Fox News should stay, as i believe everyone has an opinion.

So what? Social conservatism should not be allowed? Just because Orban's fanboy goes to Canada and throws a hate speech towards a gay person or black person doesn't mean it should be acceptable. It shouldn't be acceptable at all. Oppression shouldn't be acceptable. Paradox of tolerance will only lead to the society of intolerance.


What about religious people? The Russian Orthodox followers don't allow LGBTQ.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 13, 2023 11:48 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Fox News is a bogeyman to you people. Fox News is not the cause of civilization collapse.

Fox News is part and parcel of this malaise lmfao.

Fox News operates in 40 or more countries, and while many are in shitty situations like Japan its not because of a news network that the birth rates are low for example, it's because of other reasons
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Postby Equai » Sat May 13, 2023 11:49 am

Aicrowian Canada wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Canada is not the US, in case you noticed.


And if canada bans it, People will want the US to ban Fox too

You miss the point. FoxNews is not domestic to Canada so Canadian government has full power, right and jurisdiction to ban it. Pretty Simple.. Just how idk Denmark suddenly decides they don't want to offer Nickelodeon anymore in their cable plans... They hare power, right and jurisdiction for that because that's foreign channel licensing to be broadcast in that country.

This has nothing to do with "censoring the media" or "fascism" or whatever third scapegoat you will find. Its simple right of a state to not allow foreign private company on their soil. No company shall be more powerful then the state.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 13, 2023 11:49 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Fox News is part and parcel of this malaise lmfao.

Fox News operates in 40 or more countries, and while many are in shitty situations like Japan its not because of a news network that the birth rates are low for example, it's because of other reasons

I think you are in fractal denial mate... this state is unfortunately incurable with the "assets" of an obscure internet forum.

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Postby Equai » Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am

Aicrowian Canada wrote:
Equai wrote:So what? Social conservatism should not be allowed? Just because Orban's fanboy goes to Canada and throws a hate speech towards a gay person or black person doesn't mean it should be acceptable. It shouldn't be acceptable at all. Oppression shouldn't be acceptable. Paradox of tolerance will only lead to the society of intolerance.


What about religious people? The Russian Orthodox followers don't allow LGBTQ.

Again so what? I don understand said it all loud and clear in the reply you are replying to. Its the same answer just switch the people who are being oppressors and people who are being oppressed.
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Fox News is part and parcel of this malaise lmfao.

Fox News operates in 40 or more countries, and while many are in shitty situations like Japan its not because of a news network that the birth rates are low for example, it's because of other reasons

The problem with Japan isn't the low birth rate, it's the conservative government.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 13, 2023 11:51 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Fox News operates in 40 or more countries, and while many are in shitty situations like Japan its not because of a news network that the birth rates are low for example, it's because of other reasons

I think you are in fractal denial mate... this state is unfortunately incurable with the "assets" of an obscure internet forum.

Fox News is in Colombia yet all of its issues precede Fox News. You're just trying to blame Fox News because it's an easy scapegoat rather than actually fix the issues in society
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat May 13, 2023 11:52 am

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, yeah? Perhaps they should actually focus on news instead of fomenting hate if they want to be treated like journalists instead of Daily Stormers.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 13, 2023 11:53 am

The Astral Mandate wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Fox News operates in 40 or more countries, and while many are in shitty situations like Japan its not because of a news network that the birth rates are low for example, it's because of other reasons

The problem with Japan isn't the low birth rate, it's the conservative government.

I don't think a liberal or even socialist party will magically fix the birth rate
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Postby Equai » Sat May 13, 2023 11:53 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I think you are in fractal denial mate... this state is unfortunately incurable with the "assets" of an obscure internet forum.

Fox News is in Colombia yet all of its issues precede Fox News. You're just trying to blame Fox News because it's an easy scapegoat rather than actually fix the issues in society

The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sat May 13, 2023 11:53 am

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The Astral Mandate wrote:The problem with Japan isn't the low birth rate, it's the conservative government.

I don't think a liberal or even socialist party will magically fix the birth rate

I literally said that the birth rate isn't the problem.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 13, 2023 11:54 am

Equai wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Fox News is in Colombia yet all of its issues precede Fox News. You're just trying to blame Fox News because it's an easy scapegoat rather than actually fix the issues in society

The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.

Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sat May 13, 2023 11:54 am

Equai wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Fox News is in Colombia yet all of its issues precede Fox News. You're just trying to blame Fox News because it's an easy scapegoat rather than actually fix the issues in society

The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.

I'm not surprised, but can I get some evidence?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat May 13, 2023 11:55 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Equai wrote:The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.

Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything


And what made them feel like they had that duty to do so?
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sat May 13, 2023 11:55 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Equai wrote:The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.

Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything

Not immediately. After a while, some people might deradicalize.
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Postby Equai » Sat May 13, 2023 11:56 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Equai wrote:The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.

Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything

But FoxNews gave them the trigger and validation to do it. They were the trigger that set their plans in motion and gave them sense of duty to do so. Listen to his "show" its there, plain for everyone to hear.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 13, 2023 11:58 am

The Astral Mandate wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything

Not immediately. After a while, some people might deradicalize.

If you're trying to deradicalize people, you should be going after Neo-nazi networks, not some right-wing populist network because those kinds of people are always going to exist in a liberal democracy.
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Sat May 13, 2023 11:59 am

Port Caverton wrote:
The Astral Mandate wrote:Not immediately. After a while, some people might deradicalize.

If you're trying to deradicalize people, you should be going after Neo-nazi networks, not some right-wing populist network because those kinds of people are always going to exist in a liberal democracy.

The NNs really don't have that many of their own networks. Right-wing populism is a stop on the conservative-to-fascist pipeline.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat May 13, 2023 12:01 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Astral Mandate wrote:Not immediately. After a while, some people might deradicalize.

If you're trying to deradicalize people, you should be going after Neo-nazi networks, not some right-wing populist network because those kinds of people are always going to exist in a liberal democracy.

An ever increasingly blurred line. The GOP, of which Fox is basically an arm, is shifting the Overton window more and more toward the exact same things.
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Postby Juansonia » Sat May 13, 2023 12:02 pm

The Astral Mandate wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything
Not immediately. After a while, some people might deradicalize.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat May 13, 2023 12:02 pm

The Astral Mandate wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:If you're trying to deradicalize people, you should be going after Neo-nazi networks, not some right-wing populist network because those kinds of people are always going to exist in a liberal democracy.

The NNs really don't have that many of their own networks. Right-wing populism is a stop on the conservative-to-fascist pipeline.

It isn't
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Port Caverton wrote:If you're trying to deradicalize people, you should be going after Neo-nazi networks, not some right-wing populist network because those kinds of people are always going to exist in a liberal democracy.

An ever increasingly blurred line. The GOP, of which Fox is basically an arm, is shifting the Overton window more and more toward the exact same things.

The Overton window hasn't shifted right, it's just that right wing populists are loud nowadays
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Postby Cyber Duotona » Sat May 13, 2023 12:03 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Astral Mandate wrote:Not immediately. After a while, some people might deradicalize.

If you're trying to deradicalize people, you should be going after Neo-nazi networks, not some right-wing populist network because those kinds of people are always going to exist in a liberal democracy.

here's the thing though, name me one very popular neo-nazi network. i'll wait. fox news has a much larger outreach than any neo nazi network so it's much easier for them to spread their rhetoric and agendas, no matter how dangerous.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat May 13, 2023 12:06 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Equai wrote:The issue with channels like FoxNews is that it deepens the issue and makes people move more to the right. Tucker Carlson's show literally instigated multiple shootings in gay clubs around USA.

Those people were already willing to shoot gay people, Fox News being banned wouldn't change anything

Why were they willing to do so? What convinced them that that was something they should do?
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