Is progressivism the future of politics?

[Republica da Comunidade Unida]

It is notably known that progressivism has always been part of the history of society in the most celebrated spheres... Be it scientific, cultural, social, political, economic, religious, etc... Even in the universe and nature there is progress and evolution , things change and do not remain the same over time... There has also always been resistance to change, the new causes strangeness, requires adaptation. But it can also bring significant improvements. But in recent times we have seen the increase and intensification of conservative groups, in society, politics, economy and etc... A large part of society seems to fiercely reject social, technological, cultural advances, among others... This is much more intense now than a few decades ago... On the other hand we see extremely driven progressive growth. But sometimes it seems that this feature can be increasingly didactic if there is no balance. Or would Conservatism be reacting more violently because it has realized that it is close to the end, and the new generations will more willingly accept the wheel of progressivism?

[Alcala-Cordel]

There has always been resistance to progress, but it only slows the rate that things change. The world is always progressing.

[Floofybit]

Better not.

[Kerwa]

It’s just a marketing label these days. “Progressives” are usually pro-establishment types with no new ideas. They are also self avowedly anti-science. There’s not all that much difference between MTG ad AOC when it comes down to it. I guess the disputes are so bitter because the differences are so small. It’s like Newcastle and Sunderland.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Hopefully not, since woke-washed neoliberalism still destroys the planet, communities and individual happiness.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

By definition, yes, as progression always happens. The only thing we can change is what kind of progress takes place.

[Alkmaaria]

No. But neither is conservatism. Think of it like an old man going on an adventure with a young boy. They sometimes pass through some very mountainous terrain. If the young boy (progressivism) runs too far ahead, he will fall off a cliff. So the old man (conservatism) tells him to wait, and the young boy must do so so that they are not separated. However, if the old man lags behind too much and the young boy does not race ahead, they will both eventually lag behind.

[Portzania]

Yes, because progression always happened, since the start of human man, since the age of nationalism and imperialism, and now. It's only how you manage that progression, some countries slow it, some countries accelerate it.

[Poliski]

Looking through history, ideas seen as on the left always end up winning due to newer generations, with left leaning ideas, taking the torch from the older generations.

[Bienenhalde]

I don't think it is necessarily clear what progressives mean when they talk about "progress". Many of them don't seem to really have a coherent philosophy about what constitutes "progress" and just use the word to refer to anything they happen to like.

[Alkmaaria]

I don't think it is necessarily clear what progressives mean when they talk about "progress". Many of them don't seem to really have a coherent philosophy about what constitutes "progress" and just use the word to refer to anything they happen to like.

Progressivism is antithetical to conservatism; whatever conservatives support, progressives will try to change.

[Gorthea]

I don't think so and I hope not. If anything, it's possible that the backlash would be so intense it causes the pendulum to move back to the (relatively) conservative world order. The so-called woke progressives are the establishment today, especially in the West.

And progress isn't inherently a good or bad thing.

[Floofybit]

I like progress but only if it's in my favour

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

I don't think so and I hope not. If anything, it's possible that the backlash would be so intense it causes the pendulum to move back to the (relatively) conservative world order. The so-called woke progressives are the establishment today, especially in the West.

And progress isn't inherently a good or bad thing.

There has not been a Progressive president or congress since the Progressive Era a century ago.

[Alkmaaria]

I don't think so and I hope not. If anything, it's possible that the backlash would be so intense it causes the pendulum to move back to the (relatively) conservative world order. The so-called woke progressives are the establishment today, especially in the West.

And progress isn't inherently a good or bad thing.

There has not been a Progressive president or congress since the Progressive Era a century ago.

What he means by "establishment" is businesses, schools, colleges, social media, public broadcasting, etc.

[Osmauri]

I like progress but only if it's in my favour

I think that's the case for just about everyone

[Floofybit]

I like progress but only if it's in my favour

I think that's the case for just about everyone

Yup

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

There has not been a Progressive president or congress since the Progressive Era a century ago.

What he means by "establishment" is businesses, schools, colleges, social media, public broadcasting, etc.

Yeah, because I guarantee school systems, news channels, and social media companies love the idea of paying their workers much more.
They aren't progressive, they are faux-woke, neoliberals who pretend to love the people.

[Indecent Anime Empire]

I am 100% for being progressive in social reform but I don't approve of wokeness decrees or blatant cultural/racial attacks. Some people confuse them with progressive mindset in politics but they are a the opposite, attempts to revert the populace to shaming and hindering the needs of communities.

[Alkmaaria]

What he means by "establishment" is businesses, schools, colleges, social media, public broadcasting, etc.

Yeah, because I guarantee school systems, news channels, and social media companies love the idea of paying their workers much more.
They aren't progressive, they are faux-woke, neoliberals who pretend to love the people.

I had the impression that you were precisely the "faux-woke, neoliberal" you have described. The meaning of the word progressivism has been misconstrued to mean woke by both sides. I usually assume any self-proclaimed "progressive" is like that.

You have my apology for that.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Yeah, because I guarantee school systems, news channels, and social media companies love the idea of paying their workers much more.
They aren't progressive, they are faux-woke, neoliberals who pretend to love the people.

I had the impression that you were precisely the "faux-woke, neoliberal" you have described. The meaning of the word progressivism has been misconstrued to mean woke by both sides. I usually assume any self-proclaimed "progressive" is like that.

You have my apology for that.

I'm a social democrat, so, to some, i am. It's fine, though, lol.

[Free Papua Republic]

Yes, if the progressivism means "progress", simply because if you don't progress, then you're stagnating, and sooner or later the metaphorical European gunboats are appearing upon your coasts

[Arval Va]

The progressive issues of yesterday become the mainstream of today and then the conservative talking points of tomorrow. Society just appears more progressive because those progressive issues are becoming mainstream. Eventually, new issues will be shunted into the limelight and what was once new and controversial will just be normal.

[Republica da Comunidade Unida]

There has always been resistance to progress, but it only slows the rate that things change. The world is always progressing.

I hope it continues like this

[Republica da Comunidade Unida]

It’s just a marketing label these days. “Progressives” are usually pro-establishment types with no new ideas. They are also self avowedly anti-science. There’s not all that much difference between MTG ad AOC when it comes down to it. I guess the disputes are so bitter because the differences are so small. It’s like Newcastle and
If progressives are anti-science, then what are conservatives with their countless denialists, something we saw a lot in the last pandemic. Sunderland.