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Postby Hispida » Mon May 08, 2023 5:04 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:There are nudist societies that can look at a nude person without any perverted thoughts. Also, certain societies require women to be covered head to toe because men get horny at the exposure of ankles or wrists.

Covering women head to toe is degrading and sexist. All genders should have to wear the same amount of clothes, but not head to toe, and definitely not nude.

me taking a shower fully clothed (i can't be nude in floofybit)
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 5:04 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Panopticon surveillance, increased law enforcement, and rehabilitation camps.

That doesn't solve the problem of stopping demand. (I guess rehabilitation camps would work somewhat with stopping demand but the other two don't We've tried them with stopping drugs and they don't work.)

More PSAs, propaganda and doctrine needs to be spread to stray people away for pornoghraphic themes.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 5:05 pm

Hispida wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Covering women head to toe is degrading and sexist. All genders should have to wear the same amount of clothes, but not head to toe, and definitely not nude.

me taking a shower fully clothed (i can't be nude in floofybit)

Obviously there would be times were you can, it would just be stricter.
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Mon May 08, 2023 5:05 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:That doesn't solve the problem of stopping demand. (I guess rehabilitation camps would work somewhat with stopping demand but the other two don't We've tried them with stopping drugs and they don't work.)

More PSAs, propaganda and doctrine needs to be spread to stray people away for pornoghraphic themes.

Once again these methods didn't work during Prohibition, they didn't work during The War On Drugs, why would they work on a porn ban?
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Postby Delvian States » Mon May 08, 2023 5:06 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:But how would such a ban be enforced?

Panopticon surveillance, increased law enforcement, and rehabilitation camps.


Let's not get started down the slippery slope of re-education camps. Because if I were to start putting people in them, they wouldn't be porn users. I could think of a lot more fitting subjects, if I were to go there, which I won't. I'm trying to resist my darker impulses, thank you very much. Dark Delv isn't just a little dark like Dark Brandon. Dark Delv is at least as bad as Count Dooku.
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 5:07 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
Floofybit wrote:More PSAs, propaganda and doctrine needs to be spread to stray people away for pornoghraphic themes.

Once again these methods didn't work during Prohibition, they didn't work during The War On Drugs, why would they work on a porn ban?

Porn isn't alcholol nor drugs.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 5:07 pm

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Covering women head to toe is degrading and sexist. All genders should have to wear the same amount of clothes, but not head to toe, and definitely not nude.

As we all know, nobody has gotten aroused at a fully clothed woman before. And you definitely can't see any arousing part of their body if they are.

That's the point. People should get to know a man— or woman— before being intimate.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 08, 2023 5:07 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Hispida wrote:me taking a shower fully clothed (i can't be nude in floofybit)

Obviously there would be times were you can, it would just be stricter.


You don't have any right to tell consenting adults what they can and cannot do with their body. What your saying is the gentlemen from London i brought up should left his family in a dangerous country because he wouldn't have had the money to get them out? He is now a British citizen too.

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Postby Jewish Underground State » Mon May 08, 2023 5:07 pm

Delvian States wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Panopticon surveillance, increased law enforcement, and rehabilitation camps.


Let's not get started down the slippery slope of re-education camps. Because if I were to start putting people in them, they wouldn't be porn users. I could think of a lot more fitting subjects, if I were to go there, which I won't. I'm trying to resist my darker impulses, thank you very much. Dark Delv isn't just a little dark like Dark Brandon. Dark Delv is at least as bad as Count Dooku.

I don't think they are referring to those kinds of re-education camps.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 08, 2023 5:08 pm

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Jewish Underground State wrote:Once again these methods didn't work during Prohibition, they didn't work during The War On Drugs, why would they work on a porn ban?

Porn isn't alcholol nor drugs.

They're all vices. The difference is that society's more accepting of alcohol and drugs these days.

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Postby Delvian States » Mon May 08, 2023 5:08 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
Delvian States wrote:
Let's not get started down the slippery slope of re-education camps. Because if I were to start putting people in them, they wouldn't be porn users. I could think of a lot more fitting subjects, if I were to go there, which I won't. I'm trying to resist my darker impulses, thank you very much. Dark Delv isn't just a little dark like Dark Brandon. Dark Delv is at least as bad as Count Dooku.

I don't think they are referring to those kinds of re-education camps.


It doesn't start like that, no. But it's a slippery slope, dude. You don't want to start down that path. It's the one-way track to full Sith.
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Mon May 08, 2023 5:08 pm

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Jewish Underground State wrote:Once again these methods didn't work during Prohibition, they didn't work during The War On Drugs, why would they work on a porn ban?

Porn isn't alcholol nor drugs.

But its just as addictive as drugs and alcohol, the best we can do is rehabilitate addicts not throw them in jail because they had urges.
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 5:09 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Porn isn't alcholol nor drugs.

They're all vices. The difference is that society's more accepting of alcohol and drugs these days.

Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 08, 2023 5:10 pm

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Diarcesia wrote:They're all vices. The difference is that society's more accepting of alcohol and drugs these days.

Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.

Lolno.

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Postby Delvian States » Mon May 08, 2023 5:10 pm

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Diarcesia wrote:They're all vices. The difference is that society's more accepting of alcohol and drugs these days.

Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.


Enjoy trying to enforce that, buddy. The biggest black market of all time and the rise of the smutlords.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 08, 2023 5:10 pm

Unmet Player wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:They're all vices. The difference is that society's more accepting of alcohol and drugs these days.

Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.


Why should it be banned? Why would you take away something from people they enjoy doing? If you don't want to go into it don't but you have no right to tell others they cannot.

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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 5:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Obviously there would be times were you can, it would just be stricter.


You don't have any right to tell consenting adults what they can and cannot do with their body. What your saying is the gentlemen from London i brought up should left his family in a dangerous country because he wouldn't have had the money to get them out? He is now a British citizen too.

The solution isn't becoming a porn star. It's either making the country a better place to live or helping people evacuate or at least giving people a decent job
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 5:12 pm

Delvian States wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.


Enjoy trying to enforce that, buddy. The biggest black market of all time and the rise of the smutlords.

Increase the police force than.
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Postby Jewish Underground State » Mon May 08, 2023 5:12 pm

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Diarcesia wrote:They're all vices. The difference is that society's more accepting of alcohol and drugs these days.

Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.

Not exactly, online moderation is very hard even when its done by AI. Also its likely people will just go back to buying physical porn if it was banned online anyway.

I'm telling you if there is a demand there will be a supply
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 08, 2023 5:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Yes, but porn is more digital than pyshical, making it easier to ban.


Why should it be banned? Why would you take away something from people they enjoy doing? If you don't want to go into it don't but you have no right to tell others they cannot.


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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 08, 2023 5:13 pm

Floofybit wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You don't have any right to tell consenting adults what they can and cannot do with their body. What your saying is the gentlemen from London i brought up should left his family in a dangerous country because he wouldn't have had the money to get them out? He is now a British citizen too.

The solution isn't becoming a porn star. It's either making the country a better place to live or helping people evacuate or at least giving people a decent job


Why not? He enjoys what he does. Who are you to tell him he can't do it?

He moved to London for a better life instead of the dangerous country he was born and raised in and now his family lives a better life in Spain as as a result.

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Postby Juansonia » Mon May 08, 2023 5:14 pm

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Delvian States wrote:Enjoy trying to enforce that, buddy. The biggest black market of all time and the rise of the smutlords.
Increase the police force than.
That couldn't stop alcohol when it was banned.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 08, 2023 5:14 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why should it be banned? Why would you take away something from people they enjoy doing? If you don't want to go into it don't but you have no right to tell others they cannot.


FYI

Unmet Player wrote:God, The Bible.


I am someone of faith and I see no reason why pornography ought to be banned.

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Postby Arval Va » Mon May 08, 2023 5:16 pm

Unmet Player wrote:
Jewish Underground State wrote:Once again these methods didn't work during Prohibition, they didn't work during The War On Drugs, why would they work on a porn ban?

Porn isn't alcholol nor drugs.

Yes. It's even easier to make or get.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 08, 2023 5:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:
FYI



I am someone of faith and I see no reason why pornography ought to be banned.

It almost always boils down to "God hates sin. We love God. So sin must be criminalized."

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