Should Pornography be banned in the US?

[Democratic Poopland]

It would be done in the same manner Christians attempt to ban anything they deem sinful. Plenty of ideologies have been subject to Christian criticism before, communism and secularism come to mind.

But this comment was made as tongue-in-cheek. This attitude of "ban anything I don't like" doesn't work when the basis is as flimsy as "this particular religion says it's bad."

John Paul I reiterated the official views of the church regarding Marxism and Catholicism being incompatible and believed it to be a "weapon to disobey" the Christian faith. As Patriarch of Venice, he struggled at times with Marxist students who were demanding changes in Venetian policies. He also forbade those factions that were Marxist from threatening the faith

You can ban threats and actions. You said

It is immoral to have this line of reasoning and it should be banned.

and

It would be done in the same manner Christians attempt to ban anything they deem sinful

How do you ban a line of reasoning. You did not answer the question. In both instances you are referring to banning of actions NOT THOUGHTS OR LINES OF REASONING WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE ADVACATING.

HOW DO YOU BAN A LINE OF REASONING?

Edit: I have no idea what happened to the format of this post.

Catholics in particular have a very easy way of banning an ideology. Excommunication. While technically you can argue that this "only" banned Catholics from supporting/defending Communism and didn't technically ban the ideology itself, it's a very roundabout and honestly lame excuse for what it's really doing. Banning the ideology. You can't threaten devout Christians with excommunication for supporting an ideology while also claiming that the ideology isn't banned.

What the?

Edit: Fixed. Thanks!

[Juansonia]

Heterosexuals and cisgenders! Society is out of hand.

Big words! Society is out of hand.

Elongated notations of conceptual notions! Society is out of hand.

[Arval Va]

There is very little evidence that porn causes depression

Evidence none the less.

Worsening of depression regarding pornography is withdrawal, just as many more people have tobacco or caffeine withdrawal. It's nothing new.

[Vivida Vis Animi]

There is very little evidence that porn causes depression

Evidence none the less.

How or if viewing porn use affects your mood depends a lot on how you feel about porn in the first place. A 2017 study² found that American men who believed porn was immoral but watched it anyway were more likely to experience depressive symptoms than men who did not have this conflict.

Lol

Evidence none the less.

[Neu California]

There is very little evidence that porn causes depression

Evidence none the less.

Not enough to establish causality by any but the biggest stretch of imagination.

There is a threshold of evidence that must e met before something can be accepted as fact, after all.

[Floofybit]

Arguably, demisexuals are ideal for Christian relationships. Large chance of them getting interested with sex with their partner after they get married.

Exactly.

[Kashimura]

To cut a long and winding speech short, Rules 34 and 35 aren’t just internet rules, they’re practically laws of nature. The idea that one could even begin the attempt at banning porn is tenfold more laughable than Prohibition.

Also, you guys should go back and check the nesting on your tags.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

There is very little evidence that porn causes depression

Evidence none the less.

Does scant evidence seriously help your case?

[Necroghastia]

There is very little evidence that porn causes depression

Evidence none the less.

There isn’t sufficient evidence to show that porn use directly causes or triggers depression. “Porn itself doesn’t cause anything. Porn is porn. And there is no psychiatric diagnosis called porn depression,” says Tom Murray, PhD, a sex and relationship therapist in Greensboro, North Carolina.

did you even read it a little

[Beric]

[spoiler]
It would be done in the same manner Christians attempt to ban anything they deem sinful. Plenty of ideologies have been subject to Christian criticism before, communism and secularism come to mind.

But this comment was made as tongue-in-cheek. This attitude of "ban anything I don't like" doesn't work when the basis is as flimsy as "this particular religion says it's bad."

John Paul I reiterated the official views of the church regarding Marxism and Catholicism being incompatible and believed it to be a "weapon to disobey" the Christian faith. As Patriarch of Venice, he struggled at times with Marxist students who were demanding changes in Venetian policies. He also forbade those factions that were Marxist from threatening the faith

You can ban threats and actions. You said

It is immoral to have this line of reasoning and it should be banned.

and

It would be done in the same manner Christians attempt to ban anything they deem sinful

How do you ban a line of reasoning. You did not answer the question. In both instances you are referring to banning of actions NOT THOUGHTS OR LINES OF REASONING WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE ADVACATING.

HOW DO YOU BAN A LINE OF REASONING?

Catholics in particular have a very easy way of banning an ideology. Excommunication. While technically you can argue that this "only" banned Catholics from supporting/defending Communism and didn't technically ban the ideology itself, it's a very roundabout and honestly lame excuse for what it's really doing. Banning the ideology. You can't threaten devout Christians with excommunication for supporting an ideology while also claiming that the ideology isn't banned.[/quote]

It is right there. The ideology isn't banned. Because you can ban an action but not a thought process, further more Catholicism is a religion and there for exists through voluntary association. Under what volintary association's umbrella are you advocating " line reasoning should be banned."? Groups and religions can and do kick people out for reasons of there own. If you do not accept Jesus as the Son of God you are not Christen, But even there you cannot be excommunicated by the act of thinking. You MUST ACT on that line of reasoning for any action to be taken against you. There are millions of supposed Christens that are in fact agnostic because no one can ban a line of reasoning. Only the acts behind the line of reasoning.

[Russian SPD]

1984 had a whole thing about eliminating orgasms, so... it's fairly relevant here.

Heard that orgasm-killing thing was made up by Orwell because he wanted to make a picture of an evil-evil dictatorship but couldn't come up with anything better than that; Ingsoc might as well ban delicious food and force everyone to eat unsalted meat.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

There is very little evidence that porn causes depression

Evidence none the less.

*nonetheless

also it’s such little evidence that drawing a conclusion is ridiculous

[Floofybit]

1984 had a whole thing about eliminating orgasms, so... it's fairly relevant here.

Heard that orgasm-killing thing was made up by Orwell because he wanted to make a picture of an evil-evil dictatorship but couldn't come up with anything better than that; Ingsoc might as well ban delicious food and force everyone to eat unsalted meat.

They wouldn't force meat, it can be unhealthy

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

1984 had a whole thing about eliminating orgasms, so... it's fairly relevant here.

Heard that orgasm-killing thing was made up by Orwell because he wanted to make a picture of an evil-evil dictatorship but couldn't come up with anything better than that; Ingsoc might as well ban delicious food and force everyone to eat unsalted meat.

he clearly had a lot of ideas for evil countries considering he made multiple detailed books describing their ideologies

[Russian SPD]

They wouldn't force meat, it can be unhealthy

Okay, let's make it eco-friendly bug paste

[Unmet Player]

Evidence none the less.

*nonetheless

also it’s such little evidence that drawing a conclusion is ridiculous

I'm speaking from personal experiance.

[Diarcesia]

Wanting to ban porn because of immorality is like wanting to ban meat consumption because someone at the top hates the slaughter of animals for food.

The funny thing is, I'm not surprised if meat consumption bans and discussing it would be in vogue in a few decades.

[Diarcesia]

*nonetheless

also it’s such little evidence that drawing a conclusion is ridiculous

I'm speaking from personal experiance.

Christian morality may be objective truth and universal. Your personal experience isn't.

[Incelastan]

Morality, Safety, Rational Thought.

They have a right to violate their own safety or disregard rational thought or someone else's idea of morality. After all, they hurt nobody else by making pornography. Either way, why is pornography immoral?

Because some folks think that some abstract or vague notion of the "community" at large supersedes the rights of an individual, a notion that I personally and categorically reject, both because their concept of the good of the community and mine don't necessarily coincide and because their notion of harm is often based upon the correlation fallacy. Not to mention that their notion of harm is based upon subjective moral panic. For instance, I don't necessarily consider the nuclear family to be inherently good for society, preferring a larger, extended family or communal dynamic, anyway. Very often, what they consider to be "good" for the community is simply continuity of the existing social order, which is actually quite harmful itself.

In short, they've appointed themselves arbiters of moral and social good and I reject their self-appointment categorically.

[Necroghastia]

*nonetheless

also it’s such little evidence that drawing a conclusion is ridiculous

I'm speaking from personal experiance.

Pornography’s Effect on Mood

How or if viewing porn use affects your mood depends a lot on how you feel about porn in the first place. A 2017 study² found that American men who believed porn was immoral but watched it anyway were more likely to experience depressive symptoms than men who did not have this conflict.

“Religiosity is the strongest predictor of an incongruence between moral values and porn use. People underestimate the fact that their beliefs have emotional consequences,” says Michael Vigorito, LMFT, CGP, a certified sex therapist and co-author of Treating Out of Control Sexual Behavior-Rethinking Sex Addiction.
Is Porn Bad for Your Mental Health?

In other words, if your religion (or other belief or values system) tells you that masturbating—much less masturbating to copious amounts of porn—is a mortal sin or disgrace, you may be more likely to view your relationship with porn use as addictive and feel sexual shame. Those feelings can, in turn, lead to symptoms of depression and anxiety.

Pre-existing feelings about porn can color the way people might see their depression, as well. For instance, if someone who is depressed believes porn is addictive and damaging “they may wonder why they are depressed and mistakenly attribute their depression to their porn watching,” says Vigorito.

are you, now...

[Floofybit]

Wanting to ban porn because of immorality is like wanting to ban meat consumption because someone at the top hates the slaughter of animals for food.

The funny thing is, I'm not surprised if meat consumption bans and discussing it would be in vogue in a few decades.

I'd be dang happy with both

[Juansonia]

It's harder to ban porn from a country than it is to ban thread-breaking from this thread.

[Floofybit]

It's harder to ban porn from a country than it is to ban thread-breaking from this thread.

Lol, nice joke (in more ways that one)

[Unmet Player]

I'm speaking from personal experiance.

are you, now...

Yes.

[Necroghastia]

Wanting to ban porn because of immorality is like wanting to ban meat consumption because someone at the top hates the slaughter of animals for food.

The funny thing is, I'm not surprised if meat consumption bans and discussing it would be in vogue in a few decades.

I'd be dang happy with both

Somehow, I doubt you would be as happy if one was to advocate banning a certain other food.