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Postby Poliski » Mon May 08, 2023 8:46 am

Why would we ever ban it? The greatest harm it causes is that awkward situation when someone walks in on someone else.

I know the entire argument comes from religion but why would you be forcing your religion on others? In a religion that specifically says to not force it on others! And I know the same people who are trying to push this are the same people who bash Sharia Law for the same argument I am using to argue against christianity in government.

Your religion isn't my law!
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Postby Imperiul romanum » Mon May 08, 2023 8:46 am

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Postby Russian SPD » Mon May 08, 2023 8:46 am

Unmet Player wrote:that is considered sexually arousing

A lot of things can be sexually arousing...
A distinctive feature of pornographic materials is that the sexual arousal of the consumer of such content is the main goal of the author, hence, for example, "cynicism" in the depiction of sexuality.
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 8:47 am

Arval Va wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Porn consumption corrupts peoples mind and gives them unrealistic views on sex and woman. It also causes depression.

You already said that.

Yes, that argument is still relevent.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon May 08, 2023 8:47 am

Russian SPD wrote:
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Sounds awfully Orwellian...

So what?
Besides, any control can be called 1984ish

Like others have mentioned, it's very much relevant to the discussion at hand. You yourself said it: the "cleansing of culture" and "inculcation of ideology" are extreme terms which imply draconian measures. "Cleansing of culture" and "inculcation of ideology" happen in 1984, with the erasure of possibly subversive information under MiniTruth, and the "inculcation of ideology" present throughout all aspects of society.
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Postby Arval Va » Mon May 08, 2023 8:47 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Asexuals probably see them as arrangements of uninteresting pixels.

Counterpoint made.

Not being interested in sex doesn't mean you don't experiance sexyal arousal.

Yeah, there are plenty of people on the ace-aro spectrum, like demisexuals or cupioromantics, that still have limited interaction with sex or romance. But overall, it's uncommon.
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Postby Vivida Vis Animi » Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 am

Beric wrote:
Beric wrote:This feels entirely nonsensical.
How do you ban a line of reasoning? How would you enforce it?

It would be done in the same manner Christians attempt to ban anything they deem sinful. Plenty of ideologies have been subject to Christian criticism before, communism and secularism come to mind.

But this comment was made as tongue-in-cheek. This attitude of "ban anything I don't like" doesn't work when the basis is as flimsy as "this particular religion says it's bad."



John Paul I reiterated the official views of the church regarding Marxism and Catholicism being incompatible and believed it to be a "weapon to disobey" the Christian faith. As Patriarch of Venice, he struggled at times with Marxist students who were demanding changes in Venetian policies. He also forbade those factions that were Marxist from threatening the faith


You can ban threats and actions. You said
Vivida Vis Animi wrote:It is immoral to have this line of reasoning and it should be banned.
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Vivida Vis Animi wrote: It would be done in the same manner Christians attempt to ban anything they deem sinful

How do you ban a line of reasoning. You did not answer the question. In both instances you are referring to banning of actions NOT THOUGHTS OR LINES OF REASONING WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE ADVACATING.

HOW DO YOU BAN A LINE OF REASONING?

Edit: I have no idea what happened to the format of this post.

Catholics in particular have a very easy way of banning an ideology. Excommunication. While technically you can argue that this "only" banned Catholics from supporting/defending Communism and didn't technically ban the ideology itself, it's a very roundabout and honestly lame excuse for what it's really doing. Banning the ideology. You can't threaten devout Christians with excommunication for supporting an ideology while also claiming that the ideology isn't banned.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Our bodies are not churches, they are temples. We invite people in, but only worthy people can do the ordinances

And it is up to the people in charge of the temple to evaluate that worthiness, no?

And you show they are worthy through marriage
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 am

it happened again lol
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 8:49 am

Arval Va wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Not being interested in sex doesn't mean you don't experiance sexyal arousal.

Yeah, there are plenty of people on the ace-aro spectrum, like demisexuals or cupioromantics, that still have limited interaction with sex or romance. But overall, it's uncommon.


Demisexual and cupioromantic! Society is out of hand.
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon May 08, 2023 8:49 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Asexuals probably see them as arrangements of uninteresting pixels.

Counterpoint made.

Not being interested in sex doesn't mean you don't experiance sexyal arousal.

Are you hearing yourself rn? Like are you joking??

Asexuals either have little or no sexual attraction and arousal, it's literally the definition of asexual.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 8:49 am

Dang thread keeps breakin
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Mon May 08, 2023 8:50 am

Floofybit wrote:Dang thread keeps breakin


I’ve done this before on accident, I think it happens when you nest certain tags weirdly
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon May 08, 2023 8:50 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So why ban an art form? Also, sexual arousal is relative.

Porn consumption corrupts peoples mind and gives them unrealistic views on sex and woman. It also causes depression.

Sad songs also cause depression.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 8:50 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Yeah, there are plenty of people on the ace-aro spectrum, like demisexuals or cupioromantics, that still have limited interaction with sex or romance. But overall, it's uncommon.


Demisexual and cupioromantic! Society is out of hand.

I don't any problem in being demisexual. In fact, I personally think being demisexual is actually helpful.
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 8:50 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Porn consumption corrupts peoples mind and gives them unrealistic views on sex and woman. It also causes depression.

Sad songs also cause depression.

Yes but, it's not as serious.
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Postby Juansonia » Mon May 08, 2023 8:51 am

Russian SPD wrote:
Juansonia wrote:It isn't.

1. How does oppressing others constitute repentance?
2. If you coerce repentance, it isn't genuine, and your god - if it existed and cared - wouldn't fall for that shit.
Successful cleansing of culture from unholy phenomena and inculcation of ideology can contribute to the achievement of this goal.
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Juansonia wrote:Just like how you believing it doesn't make it any more true.
True, but believing in truth does less harm than not
And believing in falsehoods does more harm than not.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 8:52 am

Juansonia wrote:And believing in falsehoods does more harm than not.

Correct
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Postby Arval Va » Mon May 08, 2023 8:52 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Yeah, there are plenty of people on the ace-aro spectrum, like demisexuals or cupioromantics, that still have limited interaction with sex or romance. But overall, it's uncommon.


Demisexual and cupioromantic! Society is out of hand.

Heterosexuals and cisgenders! Society is out of hand. :rofl:
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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Mon May 08, 2023 8:53 am

Arval Va wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:
Demisexual and cupioromantic! Society is out of hand.

Heterosexuals and cisgenders! Society is out of hand. :rofl:

Big words! Society is out of hand.
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Postby Juansonia » Mon May 08, 2023 8:53 am

Floofybit wrote:
Juansonia wrote:And believing in falsehoods does more harm than not.

Correct
Of course, telling the difference between a truth and a falsehood can be difficult, so disagreements occur.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon May 08, 2023 8:53 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Yeah, there are plenty of people on the ace-aro spectrum, like demisexuals or cupioromantics, that still have limited interaction with sex or romance. But overall, it's uncommon.


Demisexual and cupioromantic! Society is out of hand.

Arguably, demisexuals are ideal for Christian relationships. Large chance of them getting interested with sex with their partner after they get married.

At this point it's like you're panicking that the government is putting dihydrogen monoxide in water to poison the people.

Edit: Again! Whether porn should be banned is the topic.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 8:53 am

Arval Va wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:
Demisexual and cupioromantic! Society is out of hand.

Heterosexuals and cisgenders! Society is out of hand. :rofl:

Speaking as a cisgender demisexual, both of y'all are out of hand
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