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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:23 am

Floofybit wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Your theory falls apart the second anyone who doesn't hold your exact beliefs comes into power.

As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.


Well, at least you're honest enough to admit that you're an authoritarian. Unlike most of your ilk. That doesn't make you right. It makes you openly and sincerely wrong.
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Postby Neu California » Mon May 08, 2023 9:23 am

Floofybit wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Your theory falls apart the second anyone who doesn't hold your exact beliefs comes into power.

As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.

And you want to force this idea onto the rest of us why?
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 9:23 am

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Floofybit wrote:People should be under control to improve their lives for the better. They should learn unity, loyalty, and how to follow a higher power.


What is porn is someone's higher power? :lol:

Would a strict, Auth, controlling person allow that?
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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:24 am

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Arval Va wrote:Subjective.

People have sex all over the place. That's how it works in nature, after all.

Not in my perfect world.


Focus on yourself. Be the change that you wish to see. And leave the rest of us the hell alone.
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Postby Arval Va » Mon May 08, 2023 9:24 am

Floofybit wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Your theory falls apart the second anyone who doesn't hold your exact beliefs comes into power.

As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.

Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 9:24 am

Neu California wrote:
Floofybit wrote:As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.

And you want to force this idea onto the rest of us why?

To make the world a kinder, better, and more hallowed place
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon May 08, 2023 9:24 am

Floofybit wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
What is porn is someone's higher power? :lol:

Would a strict, Auth, controlling person allow that?

There's no way to force someone to stop believing something, so it doesn't really matter.
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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:25 am

Floofybit wrote:
Neu California wrote:And you want to force this idea onto the rest of us why?

To make the world a kinder, better, and more hallowed place


More likely a crueler, more oppressive, and superstitious place.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon May 08, 2023 9:25 am

Floofybit wrote:
Neu California wrote:And you want to force this idea onto the rest of us why?

To make the world a kinder, better, and more hallowed place

How is it kind or good to force people to live exactly how you want at every moment? That's torture for everyone but you.
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 9:25 am

Arval Va wrote:
Floofybit wrote:As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.

Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.

Freedom of expression isn't everything.
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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:25 am

Floofybit wrote:
Neu California wrote:And you want to force this idea onto the rest of us why?

To make the world a kinder, better, and more hallowed place


Save your utopian tyranny fantasies for Kolob, man. Or the Celestial Kingdom or whatever the Prophet tells you for when you attain godhood or whatever.
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Mon May 08, 2023 9:26 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:People should be under control to improve their lives for the better. They should learn unity, loyalty, and how to follow a higher power.

Sounds kinda like BDSM...

yeah i pointed that out to floofy in another chat that he borders on bdsm fixation if not has

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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 9:26 am

Arval Va wrote:
Floofybit wrote:As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.

Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.

Why would they ban my religion? Our scripture says to love our leaders and their are patriotic songs in our hynn book. Our religion is a government's dream.
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Postby Portzania » Mon May 08, 2023 9:26 am

Incelastan wrote:the Prophet tells you for when you attain godhood or whatever.

What
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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:26 am

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Arval Va wrote:Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.

Freedom of expression isn't everything.


It's an essential freedom for an open and pluralistic society. Which is one of my unbending principles.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon May 08, 2023 9:26 am

Floofybit wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Your theory falls apart the second anyone who doesn't hold your exact beliefs comes into power.

As long as I can practice my religion, and as long as they are strict and authoritarian, I don't care what they do to me.

So you don't care about the beliefs. You just need someone to tell you exactly how to live your life. That's fine (not really but whatever) you can probably hire someone to do that. Leave the rest of us out of it.
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Postby Neu California » Mon May 08, 2023 9:27 am

Unmet Player wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.

Freedom of expression isn't everything.

No, but you need some damn good reasons to limit it, and the case for banning porn does not meet that high bar.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon May 08, 2023 9:27 am

Floofybit wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.

Why would they ban my religion? Our scripture says to love our leaders and their are patriotic songs in our hynn book. Our religion is a government's dream.

They don't like it. It doesn't fit with their model of how everyone should live. Many dictatorships have banned christianity.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 9:27 am

Incelastan wrote:
Floofybit wrote:To make the world a kinder, better, and more hallowed place


Save your utopian tyranny fantasies for Kolob, man. Or the Celestial Kingdom or whatever the Prophet tells you for when you attain godhood or whatever.

It's the celestial kingdom.
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Postby Cook-Out » Mon May 08, 2023 9:28 am

Neu California wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Freedom of expression isn't everything.

No, but you need some damn good reasons to limit it, and the case for banning porn does not meet that high bar.


What does meet that bar in your opinion?

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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:28 am

Portzania wrote:
Incelastan wrote:the Prophet tells you for when you attain godhood or whatever.

What


I'm telling him again to keep his authoritarian tendencies to his church and leave the rest of humanity alone.
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Postby Unmet Player » Mon May 08, 2023 9:28 am

Incelastan wrote:
Unmet Player wrote:Freedom of expression isn't everything.


It's an essential freedom for an open and pluralistic society. Which is one of my unbending principles.

An open and pluralistic society shouldn't be your desired society.
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Postby Neu California » Mon May 08, 2023 9:28 am

Floofybit wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Freedom of expression/religion and the authoritarian state are incompatible.

Why would they ban my religion? Our scripture says to love our leaders and their are patriotic songs in our hynn book. Our religion is a government's dream.

Perhaps because they have another religion they want to promote, or they really don't like your religion?
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Postby Floofybit » Mon May 08, 2023 9:28 am

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Why would they ban my religion? Our scripture says to love our leaders and their are patriotic songs in our hynn book. Our religion is a government's dream.

They don't like it. It doesn't fit with their model of how everyone should live. Many dictatorships have banned christianity.

Why would a leader hate it?
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Postby Incelastan » Mon May 08, 2023 9:29 am

Floofybit wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
Save your utopian tyranny fantasies for Kolob, man. Or the Celestial Kingdom or whatever the Prophet tells you for when you attain godhood or whatever.

It's the celestial kingdom.


At least until the next "progressive revelation," that is.
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