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Should we adopt mail-in voting?

Yes, with mail-in voting being the main method.
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12%
Yes, as a choice side to voting in polling stations.
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63%
Meh. I'm neutral on mail-in voting/I missed the part where mail-in voting is my problem.
2
2%
No, voting physically is good enough.
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19%
No, democracy is dumb.
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Total votes : 111

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Washington-Columbia
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Postby Washington-Columbia » Wed May 10, 2023 10:57 pm

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No, we are a republic(and please forgive me for my Americentric approach here, I won’t speak for other countries). The founders purposefully designed a system where the people have a say and those who govern are answerable to the people, but that does not give too much power vested in the people themselves. And with good reason. As I mentioned, I am incredibly wary of the shall we say, dim-minded among us, playing a significant role in how the country is run. I simply don’t believe this is wise.


1. Just because the Founding Fathers of America designed a system does not mean it's good. Many of the founding fathers owned slaves, though while some of the slaveholders were more lenient on them, slavery is still slavery, and as Necroghastia said, The Founding Fathers only wanted white men who owned property to vote for President or representatives.
2. Being dumb doesn't mean you should have your voting right removed from you. They teach civics in the senior years in High School (here in Washington State) for a reason, when they are approaching the voting age.
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Postby United Calanworie » Thu May 11, 2023 1:16 am

Caurus wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Washington, Oregon and Colorado have had mail in voting for years with no problems without having to do anything you suggest.


What about the accessibility part? Do the voters there have equal access to mail-in ballots regardless of where they live or their living conditions? As for the matter of being able to check if your vote has been counted, I believe I have previously seen The Black Forrest mention something about being able to check if their ballot was cast where they live. Do Washington, Oregon, and Colorado have the same thing?

Yup. oregon.gov is a wonderful resource if you live here :P
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Off the top of my head, disability, homelessness, and jobs that require traveling (like truckers, airline crews, or train crews for example). I know that there are some limitations to what you can do with a P.O. box, but I don't know if you can do mail-in ballots through one. Somebody who, in particular, has to travel a great deal would certainly be at a disadvantage if the circumstances of their job means the postal service has a hard time delivering an absentee or mail-in ballot.


I can't speak for Oregon but I do know Washington and Oregon still have polling sites to a limited degree.

You can't speak for Oregon, but you'll speak for us anyway? :P We don't have polling sites, period. We're 100% mail-in. We do have drop-boxes tho.
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Postby Caurus » Thu May 11, 2023 5:42 am

United Calanworie wrote:
Caurus wrote:
What about the accessibility part? Do the voters there have equal access to mail-in ballots regardless of where they live or their living conditions? As for the matter of being able to check if your vote has been counted, I believe I have previously seen The Black Forrest mention something about being able to check if their ballot was cast where they live. Do Washington, Oregon, and Colorado have the same thing?

Yup. oregon.gov is a wonderful resource if you live here :P
San Lumen wrote:
I can't speak for Oregon but I do know Washington and Oregon still have polling sites to a limited degree.

You can't speak for Oregon, but you'll speak for us anyway? :P We don't have polling sites, period. We're 100% mail-in. We do have drop-boxes tho.


That site's pretty nifty. No polling site feels a little weird though if only for how different that sounds from my state.

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Postby Vikanias » Thu May 11, 2023 6:04 am

I’d say keep it up to choice, if you want to vote in person that is fine, If you want to mail in your vote more power to you.
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Postby Edush » Thu May 11, 2023 6:41 am

Vikanias wrote:I’d say keep it up to choice, if you want to vote in person that is fine, If you want to mail in your vote more power to you.

That's probably the best possible answer.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 11, 2023 2:10 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Caurus wrote:
What about the accessibility part? Do the voters there have equal access to mail-in ballots regardless of where they live or their living conditions? As for the matter of being able to check if your vote has been counted, I believe I have previously seen The Black Forrest mention something about being able to check if their ballot was cast where they live. Do Washington, Oregon, and Colorado have the same thing?

Yup. oregon.gov is a wonderful resource if you live here :P
San Lumen wrote:
I can't speak for Oregon but I do know Washington and Oregon still have polling sites to a limited degree.

You can't speak for Oregon, but you'll speak for us anyway? :P We don't have polling sites, period. We're 100% mail-in. We do have drop-boxes tho.


I meant to say Washington.

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Postby Pangurstan » Thu May 11, 2023 3:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Yup. oregon.gov is a wonderful resource if you live here :P

You can't speak for Oregon, but you'll speak for us anyway? :P We don't have polling sites, period. We're 100% mail-in. We do have drop-boxes tho.


I meant to say Washington.

I'm pretty sure that we don't have polling sites either, but we have ballot boxes for people who don't want to mail their ballots.
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Postby Washington-Columbia » Thu May 11, 2023 10:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Yup. oregon.gov is a wonderful resource if you live here :P

You can't speak for Oregon, but you'll speak for us anyway? :P We don't have polling sites, period. We're 100% mail-in. We do have drop-boxes tho.


I meant to say Washington.


Here's the document from my State's Government of drop boxes and ballot locations in the Congress Elections last year. I didn't look for a source, nor have I learned civics, but I'm sure that most Washingtonians vote in ballot anyway, with most of them being drop box locations for mail in ballots.
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Postby Southland » Thu May 11, 2023 11:29 pm

I've been using a mail-in ballot since I first registered to vote a decade ago, and it has worked great for me. It absolutely should be adopted nationwide, but it should not fully replace the typical voting station. I'm weary about voting over the internet or via smartphones as some has suggested for security reasons. Once that gets resolved, I'll be on board with that too.
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Postby Eleanor Turner » Mon May 15, 2023 10:37 pm

Jellian Federation wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:No, I think in-person voting discourages people who are too lazy or apathetic about politics to vote which is a good thing. Albeit, some places have very bad voting infrastructure which means voters have to wait in line for hours.


The democracy is supposed to reflect the will of the people.
The more people vote, the more accurate that reflection will be.


Making a some national holidays for voting ought to be a great bipartisan solution.


Yes man I think all country has national holiday for voting

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Postby Orcuo » Tue May 16, 2023 1:25 pm

Wouldn’t make mail voting the main form of voting, but yeah, I’m for it. Online voting is a little iffy but otherwise could be useful once security measures improve.
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Postby Real DonaldJTrump » Tue May 16, 2023 2:00 pm

These people say that mail-in voting should be the primary form of voting. That our democracy should be decided based on the whim of some guy at home lazily doodling in his candidate instead of coming to the polls and voting there. It's ridiculous! These are the same people who threaten the safety of our elections and democracy.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue May 16, 2023 4:07 pm

Arizona had been doing it successfully for years until our state GOP decided that it was satan reincarnate. With proper measures in place, I don't see how it's an issue.

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Postby El Lazaro » Tue May 16, 2023 4:30 pm

Tbh optional online voting would be nice, but US government websites always break down when people actually want to use them (e.g. healthcare.gov for Obamacare, sss.gov (Selective Service System) after the Iran drone strike, and dozens of state unemployment insurance during COVID—all of these under much less strain than a national or even state election website would be), and general tech illiteracy in past cases isn’t encouraging in terms of security concerns, but maybe one day. It’d make voter suppression a lot harder and encourage much higher turnout, plus federal elections wouldn’t be agonizingly long.
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Postby Intaglio » Tue May 16, 2023 4:35 pm

I see no issue with it; my state (Georgia) has it. I and my mother voted by mail in ballots back in 2020. It's more convenient in my eyes than having to go out to the polls.

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 16, 2023 6:27 pm

Nobody complained about mail-in voting before Donald Trump orchestrated a conspiracy to disparage it. The idea of a polling place is really kind of antiquated, there's no legit reason to do it like that.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Tue May 16, 2023 6:29 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Nobody complained about mail-in voting before Donald Trump orchestrated a conspiracy to disparage it. The idea of a polling place is really kind of antiquated, there's no legit reason to do it like that.

I never thought I'd agree with you, but I do.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 16, 2023 6:54 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:I never thought I'd agree with you, but I do.


Great to see you being correct.
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Dimetrodon Empire wrote:I never thought I'd agree with you, but I do.


Great to see you being correct.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 16, 2023 8:51 pm

Des-Bal wrote:Nobody complained about mail-in voting before Donald Trump orchestrated a conspiracy to disparage it. The idea of a polling place is really kind of antiquated, there's no legit reason to do it like that.


Why shouldnt there be an option of a polling site or voting by mail? Why does it have to be one or the other?

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 16, 2023 8:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Why shouldnt there be an option of a polling site or voting by mail? Why does it have to be one or the other?


It doesn't? You can do something stupid if it's important to you.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 16, 2023 8:56 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why shouldnt there be an option of a polling site or voting by mail? Why does it have to be one or the other?


It doesn't? You can do something stupid if it's important to you.


What's stupid about polling sites?

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 16, 2023 9:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:What's stupid about polling sites?


They're valueless and mail in is better.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 16, 2023 9:07 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What's stupid about polling sites?


They're valueless and mail in is better.


Why do they have no value and what makes mail in better? Why can't we have both?

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Postby Des-Bal » Tue May 16, 2023 9:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:\
Why do they have no value and what makes mail in better? Why can't we have both?


They have no value because they produce no benefit. There is nothing there. I have concealed the benefits of voting at a polling station behind this spoiler text.
NIL


I just said you can have both. Mail in is better because you don't have to go to the polling place.
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