Should we adopt Mail-in voting?

[Shazbotdom]

They've literally put bags or taped up all of the Blue Mailboxes (the ones that are outside of the post office buildings). News Agencies here have reported (as close as '21) of mail being dumped instead of being delivered.

Those are just from the first page. There are news stories for it dating back 6 or 7 years.

Interesting. Sounds like it needs a cleanup your way. The first story almost read like a political stunt as voting was coming up. The second one? Yea that dimple head deserves to be punished. Saw he pled guilty. Didn’t find a story about his punishment.

USPS my way? The worst they do is sometimes deliver mail and another house. 1223 vs 1233.

Well, the Mail being stolen out of the blue mailboxes is due to a mailman who was tasked with emptying them out getting mugged and the key stolen. And it seems that, in their infinite wisdom, have ALL the blue mailboxes in the metro area keyed the same.

[Dazchan]

It's used in Australia as an option for people who can't attend a polling place. Seems to work well.

[Hatterleigh]

No, I think in-person voting discourages people who are too lazy or apathetic about politics to vote which is a good thing. Albeit, some places have very bad voting infrastructure which means voters have to wait in line for hours.

[James_xenoland]

With a very good reason, sure. Other than that, or as a default, no.

[San Lumen]

I don't think we should have universal mail in voting and get rid of polling places entirely but I have no issue with no excuse absentee ballots.

[Rary]

Sure if you have a good reason. If not, then you have to go to the polls.

[Farnhamia]

Sure if you have a good reason. If not, then you have to go to the polls.

Why? You ever stood in a long line outside a polling place in November? It sucks.

In Colorado we have mail-in voting for everything, it works great.

If people are going to be made to go to the polls in person then Election Day should be on the weekend so a lot of citizens don't have to lose time off work in order to vote.

[Necroghastia]

No, I think in-person voting discourages people who are too lazy or apathetic about politics to vote which is a good thing. Albeit, some places have very bad voting infrastructure which means voters have to wait in line for hours.

You don't think making voting more accessible would drive down such apathy?

[Rary]

Sure if you have a good reason. If not, then you have to go to the polls.

Why? You ever stood in a long line outside a polling place in November? It sucks.

In Colorado we have mail-in voting for everything, it works great.

If people are going to be made to go to the polls in person then Election Day should be on the weekend so a lot of citizens don't have to lose time off work in order to vote.

I don’t think I’ve ever waited for more than half an hour.

[Ryemarch]

If people are going to be made to go to the polls in person then Election Day should be on the weekend so a lot of citizens don't have to lose time off work in order to vote.

Hell, I'd argue that it should be a national holiday.

[Necroghastia]

Why? You ever stood in a long line outside a polling place in November? It sucks.

In Colorado we have mail-in voting for everything, it works great.

If people are going to be made to go to the polls in person then Election Day should be on the weekend so a lot of citizens don't have to lose time off work in order to vote.

I don’t think I’ve ever waited for more than half an hour.

Sure. I don't think I've ever waited even that long.

But our experiences are not universal.

[Rary]

I don’t think I’ve ever waited for more than half an hour.

Sure. I don't think I've ever waited even that long.

But our experiences are not universal.

10 hours is absurd. Was there not enough polling stations or something?

[The Black Forrest]

No, I think in-person voting discourages people who are too lazy or apathetic about politics to vote which is a good thing. Albeit, some places have very bad voting infrastructure which means voters have to wait in line for hours.

Versus the sound bite voters who do vote in line?

Voting should be made as easy as possible.

[Vrbo]

You got proof of all those claims?

USPS for what is does it’s job. Recent problems have been all the “free market” shit being spewed.

I am curious why they haven’t tossed that Trumpest yet.

I have used the mail in for years. No issues.

They've literally put bags or taped up all of the Blue Mailboxes (the ones that are outside of the post office buildings). News Agencies here have reported (as close as '21) of mail being dumped instead of being delivered.

Those are just from the first page. There are news stories for it dating back 6 or 7 years.

Both of these are in the same area. It would definitely help to find another story as both are from the same place, Carrolton Ave. Post Office.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Purely self-serving answer: yes. I rather not go to a voting center. I fucking hate crowds. Voting from home and mailing my ballot is better for me.

[El Lazaro]

No, I think in-person voting discourages people who are too lazy or apathetic about politics to vote which is a good thing. Albeit, some places have very bad voting infrastructure which means voters have to wait in line for hours.

No offense to this forum, but enthusiastic voters tend to be people like NSGers and very angry senior citizens, not the type of people who are able to make reasonable and safe decisions.

[Vrbo]

No, I think in-person voting discourages people who are too lazy or apathetic about politics to vote which is a good thing. Albeit, some places have very bad voting infrastructure which means voters have to wait in line for hours.

No offense to this forum, but enthusiastic voters tend to be people like NSGers and very angry senior citizens, not the type of people who are able to make reasonable and safe decisions.

I will take offense to this on behalf of this forum.

I'm not very enthusiastic of a voter, though I did vote for our state's general assembly. Let's go Rooney & DePhillips. It's important to vote in elections but to be frank if voting can be made convenient, it should be done.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

10 hours is absurd. Was there not enough polling stations or something?

It's a very common and very well known political trick in the United States to close down polling places in electorally hostile neighbourhoods to create hours-long queues that disincentivise the local residents from voting.

Only gotten worse since the Supreme Court made the decision a few years ago that the organisation of elections should be left to the states, without federal electoral oversight. Just a great time to be an ethnic minority in a red state right now, let me tell you.

[Washington-Columbia]

Only gotten worse since the Supreme Court made the decision a few years ago that the organisation of elections should be left to the states, without federal electoral oversight. Just a great time to be an ethnic minority in a red state right now, let me tell you.

Well... as a wise woman once said:

"Throwing out preclearance when it has worked and is continuing to work to stop discriminatory changes is like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet."
-Ruth Bader Ginsburg

[Urine Town]

It's a very common and very well known political trick in the United States to close down polling places in electorally hostile neighbourhoods to create hours-long queues that disincentivise the local residents from voting.

Only gotten worse since the Supreme Court made the decision a few years ago that the organisation of elections should be left to the states, without federal electoral oversight. Just a great time to be an ethnic minority in a red state right now, let me tell you.

I still look back to Georgia prohibiting people from handing out water to voters in Atlanta (i don’t remember if this ban applies to the whole state

I live in Kansas which, as of right now, seems to have somewhat reasonable voting rights laws when compared to other RepubliKKKan states. But then again, Missouri is next door which has completely banned early voting

[Narland]

So, Mail in voting. A huge topic, especially during election years If your registered and have access to a postal service, you get sent a ballot. Sign on what you want to vote for and mail it back. Pretty simple. This practice has been set up in an almost all mail in voting practice in 7 US states, with Vermont adopting it in general elections and DC might adopt it in the future, though 4 states has restricted mail-in voting. Outside the United States, Germany, Canada, Poland, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Austria had adopted mail-in voting on demand with many more adopting it in some form.

Mail-in voting has several advantages against in-person voting. Advantages, for example simpler, more convenient voting, waiting less time to vote for a candidate, helping with increases in voting turnout, and in Colorado where Mail-In voting was introduced, deters more extremists, participation, and an survey of 1,500 Coloradoans, most reported that they were satisfied with the voting practice and it showed that Mail-In voting in Colorado actually saved money. On the other hand, ballots could be discarded or damaged before they can be counted intentionally, less accessible to communities without mailboxes, complications with deadlines are there, and it can be confusing, for example assuming if your vote will be counted, or if you might request it.

So, do you think that we should adopt mail-in voting? Personally, yes, I think we should adopt mail in voting. Voting should be free and fair, and should be convenient to the voter, with little pressure on them, and should be a quick ballot in and go. Some of the benefits of mail-in voting could be in dire need (depends on location) and could help to yield more free and fair elections.

No. Too corrupt and prone to cheating. France had to find out the hard way.

Go back to handheld size paper ballots on one single election day that can be counted at the precinct within a couple of hours. The ballots can be counted in plain sight on open tables and recorded from 30 different angles. Everyone can view, check, and recheck the tabulation stack -- democrat, republican, libertarian, green, constitutionalist et al. to their satisfaction. Those that have a legitimate reason -- for example, they are in the hospital, overseas, enlisted, or incarcerated get absentee ballots. That way people who are too lazy to take the responsibility for themselves to vote in person cannot have their votes harvested by fraudsters.

Check the voter rolls early and often so that the criminals in our midst do not harvest the votes of the deceased, those who are no longer residents, those who are foreigners, and those who have ceded their right to vote. In the most corrupt precincts such as found in parts of Chicago and Philadelphia have the people vote with their thumbs dipped in permanent ink so they cannot vote more than once, and have duly constituted and deputized investigators ready to track down and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law anyone unlawfully subverting the system. A felony charge and 5 years for each volitional act is what is on the books. .

[United Calanworie]

So, Mail in voting. A huge topic, especially during election years If your registered and have access to a postal service, you get sent a ballot. Sign on what you want to vote for and mail it back. Pretty simple. This practice has been set up in an almost all mail in voting practice in 7 US states, with Vermont adopting it in general elections and DC might adopt it in the future, though 4 states has restricted mail-in voting. Outside the United States, Germany, Canada, Poland, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Austria had adopted mail-in voting on demand with many more adopting it in some form.

Mail-in voting has several advantages against in-person voting. Advantages, for example simpler, more convenient voting, waiting less time to vote for a candidate, helping with increases in voting turnout, and in Colorado where Mail-In voting was introduced, deters more extremists, participation, and an survey of 1,500 Coloradoans, most reported that they were satisfied with the voting practice and it showed that Mail-In voting in Colorado actually saved money. On the other hand, ballots could be discarded or damaged before they can be counted intentionally, less accessible to communities without mailboxes, complications with deadlines are there, and it can be confusing, for example assuming if your vote will be counted, or if you might request it.

So, do you think that we should adopt mail-in voting? Personally, yes, I think we should adopt mail in voting. Voting should be free and fair, and should be convenient to the voter, with little pressure on them, and should be a quick ballot in and go. Some of the benefits of mail-in voting could be in dire need (depends on location) and could help to yield more free and fair elections.

No. Too corrupt and prone to cheating. France had to find out the hard way.

I meaaaannnnnn.... my home state doesn't have a problem with it. Four cases referred to DOJ in the 2020 election? I don't think that's exactly a ringing indictment of corruption and cheating in mail in voting. (Which by the by, we exclusively have mail-in.)

[Urine Town]

So, Mail in voting. A huge topic, especially during election years If your registered and have access to a postal service, you get sent a ballot. Sign on what you want to vote for and mail it back. Pretty simple. This practice has been set up in an almost all mail in voting practice in 7 US states, with Vermont adopting it in general elections and DC might adopt it in the future, though 4 states has restricted mail-in voting. Outside the United States, Germany, Canada, Poland, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Austria had adopted mail-in voting on demand with many more adopting it in some form.

Mail-in voting has several advantages against in-person voting. Advantages, for example simpler, more convenient voting, waiting less time to vote for a candidate, helping with increases in voting turnout, and in Colorado where Mail-In voting was introduced, deters more extremists, participation, and an survey of 1,500 Coloradoans, most reported that they were satisfied with the voting practice and it showed that Mail-In voting in Colorado actually saved money. On the other hand, ballots could be discarded or damaged before they can be counted intentionally, less accessible to communities without mailboxes, complications with deadlines are there, and it can be confusing, for example assuming if your vote will be counted, or if you might request it.

So, do you think that we should adopt mail-in voting? Personally, yes, I think we should adopt mail in voting. Voting should be free and fair, and should be convenient to the voter, with little pressure on them, and should be a quick ballot in and go. Some of the benefits of mail-in voting could be in dire need (depends on location) and could help to yield more free and fair elections.

No. Too corrupt and prone to cheating. France had to find out the hard way.

Go back to handheld size paper ballots on one single election day that can be counted at the precinct within a couple of hours. The ballots can be counted in plain sight on open tables and recorded from 30 different angles. Everyone can view, check, and recheck the tabulation stack -- democrat, republican, libertarian, green, constitutionalist et al. to their satisfaction. Those that have a legitimate reason -- for example, they are in the hospital, overseas, enlisted, or incarcerated get absentee ballots. That way people who are too lazy to take the responsibility for themselves to vote cannot have their votes harvested by fraudsters.

Check the voter rolls early and often so that the criminals in our midst do not harvest the votes of the deceased, those who are no longer residents, those who are foreigners, and those who have ceded their right to vote. In the most corrupt precincts such as found in parts of Chicago and Philadelphia have the people vote with their thumbs dipped in permanent ink so they cannot vote more than once, and have duly constituted and deputized investigators ready to track down and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law anyone unlawfully subverting the system. A felony charge and 5 years for each volitional act is what is on the books. .

Emphasis highlighted. Your proposal makes me picture some poor sod in a polling place counting thousands of votes before slipping up the count and having to start over. You do realize machines are less likely to inaccurately count the results of an election. I won’t even bring up the second paragraph because it sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theories

[Narland]

No. Too corrupt and prone to cheating. France had to find out the hard way.

Go back to handheld size paper ballots on one single election day that can be counted at the precinct within a couple of hours. The ballots can be counted in plain sight on open tables and recorded from 30 different angles. Everyone can view, check, and recheck the tabulation stack -- democrat, republican, libertarian, green, constitutionalist et al. to their satisfaction. Those that have a legitimate reason -- for example, they are in the hospital, overseas, enlisted, or incarcerated get absentee ballots. That way people who are too lazy to take the responsibility for themselves to vote cannot have their votes harvested by fraudsters.

Check the voter rolls early and often so that the criminals in our midst do not harvest the votes of the deceased, those who are no longer residents, those who are foreigners, and those who have ceded their right to vote. In the most corrupt precincts such as found in parts of Chicago and Philadelphia have the people vote with their thumbs dipped in permanent ink so they cannot vote more than once, and have duly constituted and deputized investigators ready to track down and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law anyone unlawfully subverting the system. A felony charge and 5 years for each volitional act is what is on the books. .

Emphasis highlighted. Your proposal makes me picture some poor sod in a polling place counting thousands of votes before slipping up the count and having to start over. You do realize machines are less likely to inaccurately count the results of an election. I won’t even bring up the second paragraph because it sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theories

Everyone can look at a stack of votes and line the holes up to the sunshine. I counted ballots in several elections, as a nonpartisan volunteer. We are trained as teams with self correcting checks and balances developed over the centuries. I also worked with different parties to train their poll watchers how to count and check the stacks themselves. Only a handful of people have access to check the coding of the machines to know or even understand if is legit.

I would rather trust the count of a trained volunteers who has 5 partisans watching from every angle and verifying those stacks for themselves, than trust a machine that very few understands how it is programmed, even if, should it be programmed un-fraudulently, makes less errors.

[San Lumen]

So, Mail in voting. A huge topic, especially during election years If your registered and have access to a postal service, you get sent a ballot. Sign on what you want to vote for and mail it back. Pretty simple. This practice has been set up in an almost all mail in voting practice in 7 US states, with Vermont adopting it in general elections and DC might adopt it in the future, though 4 states has restricted mail-in voting. Outside the United States, Germany, Canada, Poland, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Austria had adopted mail-in voting on demand with many more adopting it in some form.

Mail-in voting has several advantages against in-person voting. Advantages, for example simpler, more convenient voting, waiting less time to vote for a candidate, helping with increases in voting turnout, and in Colorado where Mail-In voting was introduced, deters more extremists, participation, and an survey of 1,500 Coloradoans, most reported that they were satisfied with the voting practice and it showed that Mail-In voting in Colorado actually saved money. On the other hand, ballots could be discarded or damaged before they can be counted intentionally, less accessible to communities without mailboxes, complications with deadlines are there, and it can be confusing, for example assuming if your vote will be counted, or if you might request it.

So, do you think that we should adopt mail-in voting? Personally, yes, I think we should adopt mail in voting. Voting should be free and fair, and should be convenient to the voter, with little pressure on them, and should be a quick ballot in and go. Some of the benefits of mail-in voting could be in dire need (depends on location) and could help to yield more free and fair elections.

No. Too corrupt and prone to cheating. France had to find out the hard way.

Go back to handheld size paper ballots on one single election day that can be counted at the precinct within a couple of hours. The ballots can be counted in plain sight on open tables and recorded from 30 different angles. Everyone can view, check, and recheck the tabulation stack -- democrat, republican, libertarian, green, constitutionalist et al. to their satisfaction. Those that have a legitimate reason -- for example, they are in the hospital, overseas, enlisted, or incarcerated get absentee ballots. That way people who are too lazy to take the responsibility for themselves to vote in person cannot have their votes harvested by fraudsters.

Check the voter rolls early and often so that the criminals in our midst do not harvest the votes of the deceased, those who are no longer residents, those who are foreigners, and those who have ceded their right to vote. In the most corrupt precincts such as found in parts of Chicago and Philadelphia have the people vote with their thumbs dipped in permanent ink so they cannot vote more than once, and have duly constituted and deputized investigators ready to track down and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law anyone unlawfully subverting the system. A felony charge and 5 years for each volitional act is what is on the books. .

If you have proof of mass fraud with mail in ballots or early voting would you kindly share it?

Counting ballots by hand could take or weeks.