Should we adopt Mail-in voting?

[San Lumen]

You should not be required to show up.

That’s your opinion

I don't understand why you'd require showing up but not requiring one cast a ballot.

[El Lazaro]

That’s your opinion

I don't understand why you'd require showing up but not requiring one cast a ballot.

Probably so that there’s no excuse not to vote, just the choice not to.

[San Lumen]

I don't understand why you'd require showing up but not requiring one cast a ballot.

Probably so that there’s no excuse not to vote, just the choice not to.

Voting is a right which means you also have the right to not show up at all. To force everyone to show up and those who don't want to vote to cast a blank ballot is stupid.

[El Lazaro]

Probably so that there’s no excuse not to vote, just the choice not to.

Voting is a right which means you also have the right to not show up at all. To force everyone to show up and those who don't want to vote to cast a blank ballot is stupid.

The government is legally able to ask you to show up somewhere. You don’t have the right to abstain from civic duties unless you’re a conscientious objector, and just going to a polling station without voting isn’t an example of compelled speech as compulsory voting very likely would be.

[San Lumen]

Voting is a right which means you also have the right to not show up at all. To force everyone to show up and those who don't want to vote to cast a blank ballot is stupid.

The government is legally able to ask you to show up somewhere. You don’t have the right to abstain from civic duties unless you’re a conscientious objector, and just going to a polling station without voting isn’t an example of compelled speech as compulsory voting very likely would be.

Elections are decided by those who show up and to force everyone to cast a ballot either in person or by mail even its blank is going to create even longer lines and make vote counting take even longer.

It makes no sense to force someone to cast a blank ballot. What point does it serve?

Voting is a right and that includes the right not to participate. Why don't you have a right to not vote if you chose?

[El Lazaro]

The government is legally able to ask you to show up somewhere. You don’t have the right to abstain from civic duties unless you’re a conscientious objector, and just going to a polling station without voting isn’t an example of compelled speech as compulsory voting very likely would be.

Elections are decided by those who show up and to force everyone to cast a ballot either in person or by mail even its blank is going to create even longer lines and make vote counting take even longer.

It makes no sense to force someone to cast a blank ballot. What point does it serve?

Compulsory voting isn’t being proposed here.

[San Lumen]

Elections are decided by those who show up and to force everyone to cast a ballot either in person or by mail even its blank is going to create even longer lines and make vote counting take even longer.

It makes no sense to force someone to cast a blank ballot. What point does it serve?

Compulsory voting isn’t being proposed here.

Yet your proposing it be mandatory for everyone to show up.

[El Lazaro]

Compulsory voting isn’t being proposed here.

Yet your proposing it be mandatory for everyone to show up.

*you're

[San Lumen]

Yet your proposing it be mandatory for everyone to show up.

*you're

Whatever. Why should someone be forced to show up at polling site or mail in a ballot if they don't want to vote?

[Wallenburg]

...(long trumpian nonsense about America)...

Do you think that electoral fraud is composed only by ebul folks intercepting mail?
Electoral fraud happens when the secrecy of the vote is violated. Which happens quite happily if you are allowed to vote inside your house, where your relatives can know what you voted. Or threaten you or trick you into voting for someone. Or even worse, in hospitals.

Or by right wing thugs menacing voters at polling places.

[Shazbotdom]

You should not be required to show up.

That’s your opinion

If you want a Free Society, no one should be compulsed to show up to a polling place, even if they are not required to vote.

And if someone doesn't show up, then what? Arrest them? Fine them?

Fuck that.

[San Lumen]

That’s your opinion

If you want a Free Society, no one should be compulsed to show up to a polling place, even if they are not required to vote.

And if someone doesn't show up, then what? Arrest them? Fine them?

Fuck that.

Agreed. No one should be fined for choosing not to vote. Its a right and part of having a right is choosing not to exercise it.

[Wallenburg]

That’s your opinion

If you want a Free Society, no one should be compulsed to show up to a polling place, even if they are not required to vote.

And if someone doesn't show up, then what? Arrest them? Fine them?

Fuck that.

We do that for jury duty, another civic responsibility.

[Washington-Columbia]

I don't understand why you'd require showing up but not requiring one cast a ballot.

Probably so that there’s no excuse not to vote, just the choice not to.

It's a waste for people to go to a ballot location and not vote. If there's no excuse for someone to vote, then just force them to vote instead of allowing them to leave. I don't like people boycotting voting which allows more extremists to gain power, but I also don't like forcing people to vote.

[Shazbotdom]

If you want a Free Society, no one should be compulsed to show up to a polling place, even if they are not required to vote.

And if someone doesn't show up, then what? Arrest them? Fine them?

Fuck that.

We do that for jury duty, another civic responsibility.

Voting isn't considered a "Civic Responsibility" though. It's considered a "right".


Making a right something that is punishable doesn't really mean that it is a right.

[San Lumen]

If you want a Free Society, no one should be compulsed to show up to a polling place, even if they are not required to vote.

And if someone doesn't show up, then what? Arrest them? Fine them?

Fuck that.

We do that for jury duty, another civic responsibility.

Jury duty is not a right. Voting is.

[United Calanworie]

Australia has compulsory voting. It seems to work out reasonably well. You don't hear complaints.

Compulsory mail in voting seems like the best choice to me, everyone gets a ballot, fills it out, mails it back. No fuss, no mess, no whatever.

[Peacetime]

I should have the opportunity.

[San Lumen]

Australia has compulsory voting. It seems to work out reasonably well. You don't hear complaints.

Compulsory mail in voting seems like the best choice to me, everyone gets a ballot, fills it out, mails it back. No fuss, no mess, no whatever.

I completely oppose compulsory voting. Voting is a right and that includes the right not to exercise it.

[Juansonia]

*you're

Whatever. Why should someone be forced to show up at polling site or mail in a ballot if they don't want to vote?

Forcing all potential voters to show up protects them from being forced to stay at work.

[San Lumen]

Whatever. Why should someone be forced to show up at polling site or mail in a ballot if they don't want to vote?

Forcing all potential voters to show up protects them from being forced to stay at work.

And what if they don’t want to vote? Why should they be forced to show up?

[El Lazaro]

Australia has compulsory voting. It seems to work out reasonably well. You don't hear complaints.

Compulsory mail in voting seems like the best choice to me, everyone gets a ballot, fills it out, mails it back. No fuss, no mess, no whatever.

There actually is/was a mild problem in Australia for a fairly specific reason. In Australia, iirc, you have to rank ALL candidates (this can include a bunch of nobodies from obscure parties) on your ballot by preference, and a fair amount of voters (especially the politically apathetic) don’t quite grasp how to vote or don’t want to put in that amount of effort, instead ranking the candidates in order from first to last as they appear in the ballot. Political parties try to mitigate this by giving supporters voting guides they can copy from, but being listed first on the ballot is still a considerable advantage in close races.

This could happen to a lesser extent, but considering the US electoral system usually gives you a single choice between “boring, normal-pilled moderate” and “thinks Jews resurrected Karl Marx to suck the blood out of Aryan poll watchers” with a bunch of wackos with no chance of winning in the background, I think it’s simple enough for anyone who can read the Latin alphabet and keep track of two options.

[Washington-Columbia]

Whatever. Why should someone be forced to show up at polling site or mail in a ballot if they don't want to vote?

Forcing all potential voters to show up protects them from being forced to stay at work.

Or you could simply pass laws which allow the workers to call in a free voting day so that they can vote on a candidate and bar Companies from not letting their workers not vote.