The Slow DeCentis

[The Grand Fifth Imperium]

"Attention, children, please pay attention for English class, so that you may learn proper enunciation and spelling."

Anyways, I say we bring back thon. What is thon, you ask? Thon is a pronoun invented in the 19th century to cure society of the ill known as "using the word their as singular common or neuter pronoun". Interestingly, thon is a contraction of that one, and never caught on except as a fad among the intellectual circles of some universities, as the ignoranti masses could care less about prim and proper English. Why do I advocate we bring it back? Because our language has changed little over the past few centuries (courtesy, the printing press) and I have an affinity for artificially constructed words. (I'm still waiting for the contractions s'pose and p'rhaps to catch on).

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Very interesting you conveniently ignore the part where we say how fascists, like the literal nazis held the same views on trans people and some of the first books burned in nazi germany was books relating to trans medical research. Also, gotta love the same argument every transphobic right-winger brings up, "oh, you can change your gender but what happens when someone changes their race?"

Almost like ethnicity is a biological factor and gender is a societal construct which has changed throughout history.

Ethnicity has socially-constructed elements too, and ethnic groups have appeared and disappeared throughout history as cultures evolve, civilizations rise and fall, and people mix in new ways or settle in new areas.

There have been some high profile cases where people identified as "transracial" and went about it in problematic ways. In particular:

- Too much emphasis on mimicking the physical traits of other people. For people that are genuine in their ethnic identity, the culture is going to be a higher priority than the physical features. For example, a light-skinned black person who is proud of their African roots would probably express that by wearing African-style stuff or cooking African-style food -- not darkening their skin. Extensive reliance on plastic surgery or other cosmetic procedures is a red flag.

- Attempting to set themselves up as a spokesperson for their adopted community before they have fully integrated.

- Lying about their background. When transwomen get into feminist groups, they usually talk openly about being trans. That honesty is important. When Rachel Dolezal set herself up as a "black" civil rights leader, she wasn't honest with other people, and that was the problem.

But the problematic behavior of a few self-proclaimed "transracial" individuals does not imply that race or ethnicity is an immutable biological fact.

[Urine Town]

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

I mean, yeah, but America has become polarized to the point where not many people will choose that option. What do you agree and disagree with DeSantis on?

[United Calanworie]

You're not going to claim that this is a Republican-only thing, right? Have you seen the Maryland districts from the last decade?

lmfao no, I will not. Both parties in power are doing this, but only one is doing it and then pursuing legislation that targets me personally, so... I don't really care that the dems are doing it as well. Mostly because they aren't out to strip me of my rights or hypothetical children.

Some obvious words-in-mouth up there.
And what's the source for that? It better not be the Trevor Project or anything of the sort.

It's not words-in-mouth. It's them not saying the quiet part out loud. Source on suicidal ideation and risk, sure:
Journal of Interpersonal Violence, DOI 10.1177/0886260520915554:

Abstract:
Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth.

Sorry, I was seriously understating the problem.

JAMA Network Open, DOI 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2022.0978

After adjustment for temporal trends and potential confounders, we observed 60% lower odds of depression (adjusted odds ratio [aOR], 0.40; 95% CI, 0.17-0.95) and 73% lower odds of suicidality (aOR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.11-0.65) among youths who had initiated PBs or GAHs compared with youths who had not. There was no association between PBs or GAHs and anxiety (aOR, 1.01; 95% CI, 0.41, 2.51).

PBs = puberty blockers, GAHs = gender-affirming hormones

I think your metaphor is suggesting that there are no Fascists who do not oppose trans rights; am I correct?

Correct.

I have nothing wrong with those people who identify themselves as transgender existing. You still have not defined who the Fascists will be who you will disenfranchise, and I have a feeling it will be something along the lines of "people I disagree with".

I don't have a particular list off the top of my head, but no, I have no interest in disenfranchising groups simply because I disagree with them. I do, however, have an interest in preventing groups from holding power who wish to kill others, or for others to die. Any group. Not just ones who would target me. If there's a group that would target people on the basis of their political affiliation, I don't want them to hold power either.

[The Black Forrest]

Not at all surprising coming from DeSantis. The guy has been latching into the culture war since he got into office. All because he hopes to become Trump 2.0. and get the presidential nomination but it remains to get seen whether that'll work.

Culture war? That phrase is simply trying to make it sound legitimate.

Call it what it is; demagoguery.

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"Attention, children, please pay attention for English class, so that you may learn proper enunciation and spelling."

Anyways, I say we bring back thon. What is thon, you ask? Thon is a pronoun invented in the 19th century to cure society of the ill known as "using the word their as singular common or neuter pronoun". Interestingly, thon is a contraction of that one, and never caught on except as a fad among the intellectual circles of some universities, as the ignoranti masses could care less about prim and proper English. Why do I advocate we bring it back? Because our language has changed little over the past few centuries (courtesy, the printing press) and I have an affinity for artificially constructed words. (I'm still waiting for the contractions s'pose and p'rhaps to catch on).

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

Thon would have been great had it stuck around but it's just practically impossible to get people to use a word nobody has been using for centuries.

The singular they isn't that bad. Yes, it conjugates with a plural pronoun but so does the singular you. If "you are" referring to a singular person isn't a problem, why should "they are" be any different?

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

That's what the "indifferent" option was made to achieve.

To express that you are indifferent on Ronnie's actions, whether it be that you simply don't care or that you believe in some of his actions and disagree with others.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

"Attention, children, please pay attention for English class, so that you may learn proper enunciation and spelling."

Anyways, I say we bring back thon. What is thon, you ask? Thon is a pronoun invented in the 19th century to cure society of the ill known as "using the word their as singular common or neuter pronoun". Interestingly, thon is a contraction of that one, and never caught on except as a fad among the intellectual circles of some universities, as the ignoranti masses could care less about prim and proper English. Why do I advocate we bring it back? Because our language has changed little over the past few centuries (courtesy, the printing press) and I have an affinity for artificially constructed words. (I'm still waiting for the contractions s'pose and p'rhaps to catch on).

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

it will never catch on. it would be even more difficult to explain to people.

[Dakran]

Not at all surprising coming from DeSantis. The guy has been latching into the culture war since he got into office. All because he hopes to become Donald "Why is Obama playing basketball today" Trump 2.0. and get the presidential nomination but it remains to get seen whether that'll work.

Culture war? That phrase is simply trying to make it sound legitimate.

Call it what it is; demagoguery.

Too many syllables, can we just call it dumb instead?

[Alkmaaria]

Not at all surprising coming from DeSantis. The guy has been latching into the culture war since he got into office. All because he hopes to become Trump 2.0. and get the presidential nomination but it remains to get seen whether that'll work.

Culture war? That phrase is simply trying to make it sound legitimate.

Call it what it is; demagoguery.

When has American politics NOT been demagoguery? Or all politics for that matter.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Culture war? That phrase is simply trying to make it sound legitimate.

Call it what it is; demagoguery.

When has American politics NOT been demagoguery? Or all politics for that matter.

Politics are two monkeys screeching about which banana to eat.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

"Attention, children, please pay attention for English class, so that you may learn proper enunciation and spelling."

Anyways, I say we bring back thon. What is thon, you ask? Thon is a pronoun invented in the 19th century to cure society of the ill known as "using the word their as singular common or neuter pronoun". Interestingly, thon is a contraction of that one, and never caught on except as a fad among the intellectual circles of some universities, as the ignoranti masses could care less about prim and proper English. Why do I advocate we bring it back? Because our language has changed little over the past few centuries (courtesy, the printing press) and I have an affinity for artificially constructed words. (I'm still waiting for the contractions s'pose and p'rhaps to catch on).

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

Is it pronounced "Thohn", "Thun", or "Thown"? Also, They works completely fine for that job. Also, s'pose is already a regular term and i'm pretty sure p'rhaps is either unpronouncible or pronounced the exact same as perhaps, just quicker.

[Arval Va]

"Attention, children, please pay attention for English class, so that you may learn proper enunciation and spelling."

Anyways, I say we bring back thon. What is thon, you ask? Thon is a pronoun invented in the 19th century to cure society of the ill known as "using the word their as singular common or neuter pronoun". Interestingly, thon is a contraction of that one, and never caught on except as a fad among the intellectual circles of some universities, as the ignoranti masses could care less about prim and proper English. Why do I advocate we bring it back? Because our language has changed little over the past few centuries (courtesy, the printing press) and I have an affinity for artificially constructed words. (I'm still waiting for the contractions s'pose and p'rhaps to catch on).

Also, in the poll, can there be an option for supporting some but not all of Ronald DeSantis' actions?

Is it pronounced "Thohn", "Thun", or "Thown"? Also, They works completely fine for that job. Also, s'pose is already a regular term and i'm pretty sure p'rhaps is either unpronouncible or pronounced the exact same as perhaps, just quicker.

/ðʌn/ "thuhn"

[The Black Forrest]

When has American politics NOT been demagoguery? Or all politics for that matter.

Politics are two monkeys screeching about which banana to eat.

Actually those primates can work things out. The bananas would rot before congress could solve the problem.

[Risottia]

I'ma go ask if Spain wants this stuff back

It would imply that Floridians become citizens of the EU.

Thanks, but no, fuck no.

Although maybe Spain could accept Florida, and then give it to Ukraine, which could turn it over to Putin in exchange for peace, Crimea and Donbass.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

The Strasserists were not fascists. They held economically socialist (Marxist) principles, believed in abolishing private property, establishing a planned economy under the prospect of organizing this via guild socialism. The only thing the Strasserists shared in common with the Nazis was their antisemitism, which even then was based on economic standpoints rather than an idea of a "racial hierarchy".

If they aren't fascists, then neither are the socdems.
*Ba dum tss*

Except the comparison between social democrats and fascists goes far beyond just "they support each-other, somewhat". I won't waste my time but the fact that they're both posed as "alternatives" to capitalism and communism, are fervently anti-communist, are collectivist and support corporatism is more than enough similarities to spark concern.

The Strasserists were not fascists. They held economically socialist (Marxist) principles, believed in abolishing private property, establishing a planned economy under the prospect of organizing this via guild socialism. The only thing the Strasserists shared in common with the Nazis was their antisemitism, which even then was based on economic standpoints rather than an idea of a "racial hierarchy".

“Nazis are not fascists”
“Liberals are fascists”

Defending your comrades, eh?

Very funny, I see you still neglect critical reading skills. I shall explain to you again, perhaps this time you will understand.
The Strasserists were not fascists- I explained why. They were economically and politically socialist, believed in a dictatorship of the proletariat, in the abolition of private property and the destruction of the market. This is incompatible with fascism. Fascism, again- is the ultimate class dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Strasserism explicitly states that it wishes to destroy the bourgeoisie and to uplift "the proletariat".
Like I said, the only thing the Strasserists actually shared in common with their "Nazi brethren" was the fact that they were both authoritarian (the Nazis were totalitarian), were antisemitic (the Strasserists to a far, far lesser degree) and their Pan-German attitude. They also rejected the Fuehrerprinzip and a lot of the defining traits of Nazism.

Strasserism actually shares more in common with the state socialism of the Soviet Union under Stalin than it does with Nazism.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

If they aren't fascists, then neither are the socdems.
*Ba dum tss*

Except the comparison between social democrats and fascists goes far beyond just "they support each-other, somewhat". I won't waste my time but the fact that they're both posed as "alternatives" to capitalism and communism, are fervently anti-communist, are collectivist and support corporatism is more than enough similarities to spark concern.

“Nazis are not fascists”
“Liberals are fascists”

Defending your comrades, eh?

Very funny, I see you still neglect critical reading skills. I shall explain to you again, perhaps this time you will understand.
The Strasserists were not fascists- I explained why. They were economically and politically socialist, believed in a dictatorship of the proletariat, in the abolition of private property and the destruction of the market. This is incompatible with fascism. Fascism, again- is the ultimate class dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Strasserism explicitly states that it wishes to destroy the bourgeoisie and to uplift "the proletariat".
Like I said, the only thing the Strasserists actually shared in common with their "Nazi brethren" was the fact that they were both authoritarian (the Nazis were totalitarian), were antisemitic (the Strasserists to a far, far lesser degree) and their Pan-German attitude. They also rejected the Fuehrerprinzip and a lot of the defining traits of Nazism.

Strasserism actually shares more in common with the state socialism of the Soviet Union under Stalin than it does with Nazism.

I feel the need to add that Strasserism is a split off of Nazism, in the same way that Nazism was a split off of Fascism.

By playing twelve degrees of separation, Strasserism IS Fascism, because Strasserism is BASED off of the ideals of Nazism, which were, in and of itself, BASED off of Fascism.

[The Black Forrest]

I'ma go ask if Spain wants this stuff back

Spain will only take it if the people leave.

[Sadow Spato]

I'ma go ask if Spain wants this stuff back

It would imply that Floridians become citizens of the EU.

Thanks, but no, fuck no.

Although maybe Spain could accept Florida, and then give it to Ukraine, which could turn it over to Putin in exchange for peace, Crimea and Donbass.

Even Putin doesn't deserve Florida.

[The Black Forrest]

It would imply that Floridians become citizens of the EU.

Thanks, but no, fuck no.

Although maybe Spain could accept Florida, and then give it to Ukraine, which could turn it over to Putin in exchange for peace, Crimea and Donbass.

Even Putin doesn't deserve Florida.

Yes he does.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Even Putin doesn't deserve Florida.

Yes he does.

Hey, hey, hey! We're trying to punish him not torture him!

[Vrbo]

his government is also trying to ban chinese citizens from owning land in florida. I’m getting deja vu.

It appears this has now been signed into law.

[Pangurstan]

his government is also trying to ban chinese citizens from owning land in florida. I’m getting deja vu.

Preventing out of state people and corporations from buying up all of the farmland is actually a good thing. Sometimes, people do good things on accident or for bad reasons.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

his government is also trying to ban chinese citizens from owning land in florida. I’m getting deja vu.

Preventing out of state people and corporations from buying up all of the farmland is actually a good thing. Sometimes, people do good things on accident or for bad reasons.

But the implications of "Chinese Detected, Homes Retaken" is terrifying.

Imagine, it's 2025 and Ron DeSantis is the president:

"We have seen an increased amount of African-American violence against their own race and ours, for that reason I am proposing to Congress the reinstatement of the Jim Crow laws to hopefully prevent further violence against good American people."

That's the door that this law unlocks.

[Germenia]

DeSantis even took away Disney's own self government body just because of a gay pride parade. It's also the fact that he just made a bad decision making the district that touches Disney, now have to pay all the costs for the police, and others so yeah. He also past a bill making it legal to not have a permit to own a gun. So we are now turning into the State of Texas.