The Slow DeCentis

[Necroghastia]

The laws it doesn’t REQUIRE staff to use the preferred pronouns, so if a teacher wants to call them by their assigned sex at birth then so be it, like honestly cope and Seth like imagine having a mental breakdown and protesting over freaking pronouns. I do not like desantis but like some of these people in lgbt community need to stop being such crybabies.

So if I wanted to call you by a name that wasn't yours, and pronouns that didn't apply to you, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Day in day out? Just, totally denying that you are who you say you are? Jeeeeez, if anyone needs to get a grip it's not the LGBT community - it's the ones that are so attached to their need to be rude and disrespectful to others.

[Necroghastia]

Libertarians, at least according to the name, want the government to restrict people as little as possible.

Based off your support of DeSantis's policies (which include banning the wearing of clothes that differ from "birth gender", for example) you accept the state forcing LGBTQ+ people to conform to a narrow worldview that happens to reflect your religious beliefs.

Which is it?

I accept the state doing it's job of enforcing Lord's will above all?

Cutting down to the most relevant part to Ron and the Florida GOP, per the ModLoom:
Why is it the state's job to do this?

[Ryemarch]

The laws it doesn’t REQUIRE staff to use the preferred pronouns, so if a teacher wants to call them by their assigned sex at birth then so be it, like honestly cope and Seth like imagine having a mental breakdown and protesting over freaking pronouns. I do not like desantis but like some of these people in lgbt community need to stop being such crybabies.

So if I wanted to call you by a name that wasn't yours, and pronouns that didn't apply to you, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Day in day out? Just, totally denying that you are who you say you are? Jeeeeez, if anyone needs to get a grip it's not the LGBT community - it's the ones that are so attached to their need to be rude and disrespectful to others.

You already know they're going to claim they wouldn't care.

[Drongonia]

You may not, but most would prefer him over a democrat. It's also a unique American flavor of fascism.

Someone preferring a giant douche over a turd sandwich doesn't mean they like, love, or even necessarily support the giant douche. That'd also be a very sour flavour where they bow to and pray with Jews, ban hate speech and promote economic libertarianism along with allowing people to remain armed AND support "Ihatethegubmint-ism".

Also kind of funny how you lectured us about democracy, when you just admitted that you're a fascist and thus, and enemy of democracy.

You can make observations from the edges, and it's just funny how every time an election is looking tight the Democrats start screeching about how this is "the most important election of our lives" and "America is one election away from <insert bad thing/ideology>" but if they're winning its all good.

[Necroghastia]

So if I wanted to call you by a name that wasn't yours, and pronouns that didn't apply to you, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Day in day out? Just, totally denying that you are who you say you are? Jeeeeez, if anyone needs to get a grip it's not the LGBT community - it's the ones that are so attached to their need to be rude and disrespectful to others.

You already know they're going to claim they wouldn't care.

is it so hard to comprehend that i might still want to hear it straight from the goddamn horse's mouth, even if i might have an idea of the answer

sorry if im being a little rude but man, i don't get these comments lol

[Dimetrodon Empire]

You may not, but most would prefer him over a democrat. It's also a unique American flavor of fascism.

Someone preferring a giant douche over a turd sandwich doesn't mean they like, love, or even necessarily support the giant douche.

Also kind of funny how you lectured us about democracy, when you just admitted that you're a fascist and thus, and enemy of democracy.

You can make observations from the edges, and it's just funny how every time an election is looking tight the Democrats start screeching about how this is "the most important election of our lives" and "America is one election away from <insert bad thing/ideology>" but if they're winning its all good.

Well, it kind of is as the GOP is anti-democratic and theocratic, and is making sure the suppress the vote. Not that I am a fan of the Dems, but they are better.

[Dakran]

I accept the state doing it's job of enforcing Lord's will above all?

Cutting down to the most relevant part to Ron and the Florida GOP, per the ModLoom:
Why is it the state's job to do this?

It isnt. America isn't a theocracy and has no business enforcing church doctrines of any kind. However if anyone wanted to participate in a Christian theocracy, there's one in Europe that comes to mind.

[Nazi Flower Power]

So if I wanted to call you by a name that wasn't yours, and pronouns that didn't apply to you, you wouldn't have a problem with it? Day in day out? Just, totally denying that you are who you say you are? Jeeeeez, if anyone needs to get a grip it's not the LGBT community - it's the ones that are so attached to their need to be rude and disrespectful to others.

You already know they're going to claim they wouldn't care.

But of course if it actually happened, they'd flip their shit.

[Utquiagvik]

Someone preferring a giant douche over a turd sandwich doesn't mean they like, love, or even necessarily support the giant douche.


You can make observations from the edges, and it's just funny how every time an election is looking tight the Democrats start screeching about how this is "the most important election of our lives" and "America is one election away from <insert bad thing/ideology>" but if they're winning its all good.

Well, it kind of is as the GOP is anti-democratic and theocratic, and is making sure the suppress the vote. Not that I am a fan of the Dems, but they are better.

Same here. The democrats have problems and there definitely are some democrats I don’t like, but I would much rather live in a democratic state with freedom of sexuality and religion than in a Christian theocracy ran by Desantis.

[Ryemarch]

is it so hard to comprehend that i might still want to hear it straight from the goddamn horse's mouth, even if i might have an idea of the answer

Not hard at all. As a matter of fact I was chiming in as a way of showing support for you. If you're going to react with hostility, though, I'll be happy to never engage with you again.

But of course if it actually happened, they'd flip their shit.

Just so.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

I do think Drongonia supports DeSantis. He just doesn't want him to have the baggage of the fascist label.

[Necroghastia]

is it so hard to comprehend that i might still want to hear it straight from the goddamn horse's mouth, even if i might have an idea of the answer

Not hard at all. As a matter of fact I was chiming in as a way of showing support for you. If you're going to react with hostility, though, I'll be happy to never engage with you again.

Yeah, sorry again, I thought better of that comment shortly after I posted it, but alas the delete button was not an option at that point. These sorts of things kinda hit home personally, and I guess I take it out on the wrong people sometimes. Sorry.

[Senkaku]

You can make observations from the edges, and it's just funny how every time an election is looking tight the Democrats start screeching about how this is "the most important election of our lives" and "America is one election away from <insert bad thing/ideology>" but if they're winning its all good.

If I have to pick between the most annoying self-absorbed oligarchs in the world screening dumb morality plays about their own virtue 24/7, or the most brutal and powerful theocracy known to history hitting me in the back of the head with a shovel and trying to take over the world, I think the choice is pretty clear!

[Drongonia]

I do think Drongonia supports DeSantis. He just doesn't want him to have the baggage of the fascist label.

I do not support DeSantis. I am not worried about being labelled as a fascist, I just tend to disagree with the labelling of him as one. You could use a different term, I think the idea of a Judeo-Christian Theocracy would be more up DeSantis' street than a Floridareich.

[Ryemarch]

Yeah, sorry again, I thought better of that comment shortly after I posted it, but alas the delete button was not an option at that point. These sorts of things kinda hit home personally, and I guess I take it out on the wrong people sometimes. Sorry.

Water under the bridge.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

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[Rusticus I Damianus]

How is it a gotcha? No fascist thinks Ron DeSantis is 'our guy' lmao

America doesn’t really have that many old-fashioned early-mid 20th century European fascists though, we have a bunch of people living in a schizophrenic media ecosystem creating their own personal ideological dreamworlds, and then labeling themselves as this or that. “I’m a right-wing evangelical” who fucks around and does coke, “I’m a paleoconservative” who eats tacos and is in an interracial relationship, “I’m a fascist” who also believes the government should leave me and my money alone under absolutely all circumstances, etc. ad nauseum. A lot of people who I’d describe as our version of fascists do think DeSantis might be their guy. Fascism, both in general through history and specifically in the US in this moment, is so ideologically slippery, and its adherents so ideologically incoherent, that it’s often only once a regime consolidates and carries out large-scale atrocities that people realize they’d been talking about it and laying the groundwork for years.

The laws it doesn’t REQUIRE staff to use the preferred pronouns, so if a teacher wants to call them by their assigned sex at birth then so be it, like honestly cope and Seth like imagine having a mental breakdown and protesting over freaking pronouns. I do not like desantis but like some of these people in lgbt community need to stop being such crybabies.

Set pronouns to stun

Over the past year or so I've done some deep research into Nazism and Fascism trying to pull them apart and understand them for what they actually were. I've always known that they're stupid ideologies, but wanted to know how the machine under the hood worked, if that makes sense, and tbh the thing I found is that hardly anyone nowadays knows what Fascism even is, much less groups like Antifa or even some of the self proclaimed Fascists that I've come across. And yeah I agree with you in terms of the Fascism now not being what was present in 20th century Europe. And I also agree with people spawning ideologies left and right, and tbh I kinda wonder if that's due to various factors such as an excess of information at people's fingertips unlike anything we had in the past, people being bored with their lives and wanting things to believe in and work towards, etc, etc. Have to admit I've kinda fallen for it to since I've gradually become disillusioned with the purely Conservative ideals that I had years ago, and my beliefs have gradually morphed into something else, where I'm not as in favor of Republic as I used to, I'm less critical of Monarchy, I doubled down on the Libertarian aspects of my Conservative beliefs till I reached the Logical conclusion which was Anarcho Capitalism, which was a gradual process since I needed to do a lot of research in order to make sense of how a system would actually work, and furthermore I've been doubling down harder and harder on my Christian beliefs to the point I'm half ready to just throw away all of my political beliefs and just go all in with Christianity since it seems to have all the answers that my other beliefs don't have or that fall short on. Also as much as I'd want an effective Monarchy, Libertarian state, Anarcho Capitalism, etc, I don't think they're ever going to happen so wanting them is just wishful thinking. But I know that God's ways are good and eternal, and he's everything that those systems wish they were and more, so I'm throwing more and more of my stock on God rather then politics.

[Rusticus I Damianus]

I accept the state doing it's job of enforcing Lord's will above all?

Cutting down to the most relevant part to Ron and the Florida GOP, per the ModLoom:
Why is it the state's job to do this?

The Bible says that God have authority to governments to carry out his will, or to wield the sword of justice.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

How is it a gotcha? No fascist thinks Ron DeSantis is 'our guy' lmao

America doesn’t really have that many old-fashioned early-mid 20th century European fascists though, we have a bunch of people living in a schizophrenic media ecosystem creating their own personal ideological dreamworlds, and then labeling themselves as this or that— psychologically and aesthetically, it seems very similar to left-wing idpol tbh. “I’m a right-wing evangelical” who fucks around and does coke, “I’m a paleoconservative” who eats tacos and is in an interracial relationship, “I’m a fascist” who also believes the government should leave me and my money alone under absolutely all circumstances, etc. ad nauseum. A lot of people who I’d describe as our version of fascists do think DeSantis might be their guy. Fascism, both in general through history and specifically in the US in this moment, is so ideologically slippery, and its adherents so ideologically incoherent, that it’s often only once a regime consolidates and carries out large-scale atrocities that people realize they’d been talking about it and laying the groundwork for years.

Also, can’t believe I didn’t catch this earlier, but there are a shitload of fascists who would do silly stunts like trying to pray a hurricane away! This is America honey!

The laws it doesn’t REQUIRE staff to use the preferred pronouns, so if a teacher wants to call them by their assigned sex at birth then so be it, like honestly cope and Seth like imagine having a mental breakdown and protesting over freaking pronouns. I do not like desantis but like some of these people in lgbt community need to stop being such crybabies.

Set pronouns to stun

Fascists in Germany (including neo-Nazi groups) attempted to launch a Coup based on the Jan 6th Capital Attack.

The reason we don't have mid 20th century fascists anymore is because it is the 21st century, and the different political landscape has changed many ideologies, including most forms of fascism.

Some fascists might long for the 20th century version but they are the minority.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

I do think Drongonia supports DeSantis. He just doesn't want him to have the baggage of the fascist label.

I do not support DeSantis. I am not worried about being labelled as a fascist, I just tend to disagree with the labelling of him as one. You could use a different term, I think the idea of a Judeo-Christian Theocracy would be more up DeSantis' street than a Floridareich.

"reich" implies Nazism, and not all Fascists are Nazis.

[Rusticus I Damianus]

You can make observations from the edges, and it's just funny how every time an election is looking tight the Democrats start screeching about how this is "the most important election of our lives" and "America is one election away from <insert bad thing/ideology>" but if they're winning its all good.

If I have to pick between the most annoying self-absorbed oligarchs in the world screening dumb morality plays about their own virtue 24/7, or the most brutal and powerful theocracy known to history hitting me in the back of the head with a shovel and trying to take over the world, I think the choice is pretty clear!

You'd take those oligarchs over Islam? Guess that's understandable.

[Utquiagvik]

I think we can all agree that Desantis is one of the worst possible examples of a Christian and that god (if he exists) probably doesn’t agree with his actions.

[Drongonia]

I do not support DeSantis. I am not worried about being labelled as a fascist, I just tend to disagree with the labelling of him as one. You could use a different term, I think the idea of a Judeo-Christian Theocracy would be more up DeSantis' street than a Floridareich.

"reich" implies Nazism, and not all Fascists are Nazis.

You know what I meant.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

"reich" implies Nazism, and not all Fascists are Nazis.

You know what I meant.

No, I don't.

Fascism is not a singular ideology. It can take many different shapes. Just like Communism can.

Strasserists were Fascists. Hell, they were even Nazis, but the main Nazi faction purged them due to massive ideological disagreements.

In the stupefied arena of American politics, comes forth a uniquely stupid form of fascism.

[Hispida]

The laws it doesn’t REQUIRE staff to use the preferred pronouns, so if a teacher wants to call them by their assigned sex at birth then so be it, like honestly cope and Seth like imagine having a mental breakdown and protesting over freaking pronouns. I do not like desantis but like some of these people in lgbt community need to stop being such crybabies.

"The laws it doesn't REQUIRE staff to call them black people, so if a teacher wants to call them negroes then so be it, like honestly cope and Seth like imagine having a mental breakdown and protesting over freaking racism."