Is safety or freedom better?

[EuroStralia]

Being a furry is much, much less dangerous than those two, however

perhaps alcoholism, but sex before marriage???

Sex before marrige is immoral, and destroys peoples sense of self worth.

[Celritannia]

You want a police state to enforce your laws for the hierarchy that goes along with your plans.

No one will be physically harmed by the police state, dissenters will be peacefully taken in, and everyone will be viewed equally in the society no matter race, gender, job, etc.

In other words, you have no real way of diswadeing people from drinking and having casual sex.

[HISPIDA]

You want a police state to enforce your laws for the hierarchy that goes along with your plans.

No one will be physically harmed by the police state, dissenters will be peacefully taken in, and everyone will be viewed equally in the society no matter race, gender, job, etc.

and they say communism is utopian!

[Celritannia]

perhaps alcoholism, but sex before marriage???

Sex before marrige is immoral, and destroys peoples sense of self worth.

Pahaha, fuck no.

[HISPIDA]

perhaps alcoholism, but sex before marriage???

Sex before marrige is immoral, and destroys peoples sense of self worth.

in my admittedly limited experience, consensual sex tends to increase self-worth. i mean, i'm asexual so i really wouldn't know, but from what i've heard fucking tends to increase self-esteem.

[Floofybit]

No one will be physically harmed by the police state, dissenters will be peacefully taken in, and everyone will be viewed equally in the society no matter race, gender, job, etc.

In other words, you have no real way of diswadeing people from drinking and having casual sex.

Surveillance will constantly watch them and if they break the law, they will be constrained

[EuroStralia]

Claiming something doesn't make it true.

And what evidence do you have to support your claims? The burden of proof is on you, my friend.

https://mainepolicy.org/researchers-say ... ecipients/

[Celritannia]

In other words, you have no real way of diswadeing people from drinking and having casual sex.

Surveillance will constantly watch them and if they break the law, they will be constrained

And if all they get is a slap on the wrist and told politely no to do it again, you have no way of diswading people.

Police during the prohibition period mostly refused to arrest those who opened speakeasies, why? Because it was pointless.
There is hardly anyone who would be willingly to support your stupid legislation of no drinking and no sex.

[EuroStralia]

Sex before marrige is immoral, and destroys peoples sense of self worth.

Pahaha, fuck no.

https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/ma ... ement.html

[Celritannia]

And what evidence do you have to support your claims? The burden of proof is on you, my friend.

https://mainepolicy.org/researchers-say ... ecipients/

A conservative free-market magazine is not evidence.

[Wallenburg]

And what evidence do you have to support your claims? The burden of proof is on you, my friend.

https://mainepolicy.org/researchers-say ... ecipients/

Ah, a conservative think tank peddling anti-welfare, anti-education, and voter disenfranchisement. Why is it that when people ask for evidence, you instead point them to propaganda outlets?

[HISPIDA]

Pahaha, fuck no.

https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/ma ... ement.html

the catholic church, a famous bastion of facts. except all of the times they lied.

[EuroStralia]

https://mainepolicy.org/researchers-say ... ecipients/

A conservative free-market magazine is not evidence.

You can deny the evidence as long as you wish, but that doesn't change the truth.

[Floofybit]

Surveillance will constantly watch them and if they break the law, they will be constrained

And if all they get is a slap on the wrist and told politely no to do it again, you have no way of diswading people.

Police during the prohibition period mostly refused to arrest those who opened speakeasies, why? Because it was pointless.
There is hardly anyone who would be willingly to support your stupid legislation of no drinking and no sex.

They don't get a slap on the wrist. They will have containment, counseling, and further restriction of rights.

[Celritannia]

A conservative free-market magazine is not evidence.

You can deny the evidence as long as you wish, but that doesn't change the truth.

This isn't evidence, this is propaganda.
Also, one "article" is not evidence. What other actual sources do you have?

[Celritannia]

And if all they get is a slap on the wrist and told politely no to do it again, you have no way of diswading people.

Police during the prohibition period mostly refused to arrest those who opened speakeasies, why? Because it was pointless.
There is hardly anyone who would be willingly to support your stupid legislation of no drinking and no sex.

They don't get a slap on the wrist. They will have containment, counseling, and further restriction of rights.

All of this will not be followed by any law enforcement professional because people like to drink and have sex, and it is impossible to ban.

[EuroStralia]

You can deny the evidence as long as you wish, but that doesn't change the truth.

This isn't evidence, this is propaganda.
Also, one "article" is not evidence. What other actual sources do you have?

https://www.aei.org/economics/aging/wel ... than-good/
https://reason.com/2020/05/13/when-gove ... than-good/
https://basicincome.org/news/2018/07/un ... than-good/

[Neutraligon]

You can deny the evidence as long as you wish, but that doesn't change the truth.

This isn't evidence, this is propaganda.
Also, one "article" is not evidence. What other actual sources do you have?

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00292533

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8036980/

[Floofybit]

They don't get a slap on the wrist. They will have containment, counseling, and further restriction of rights.

All of this will not be followed by any law enforcement professional because people like to drink and have sex, and it is impossible to ban.

If people want a better, safer life they will

[Neutraligon]

This isn't evidence, this is propaganda.
Also, one "article" is not evidence. What other actual sources do you have?

1)https://www.aei.org/economics/aging/welfare-programs-that-do-more-harm-than-good/
2)https://reason.com/2020/05/13/when-government-programs-do-more-harm-than-good/
3)https://basicincome.org/news/2018/07/united-kingdom-study-suggests-that-welfare-conditionality-does-more-harm-than-good/

1) An opinion piece
2) Same as above hardly a surprise given source
3)...opposes placing conditions on welfare.

[EuroStralia]

1)https://www.aei.org/economics/aging/welfare-programs-that-do-more-harm-than-good/
2)https://reason.com/2020/05/13/when-government-programs-do-more-harm-than-good/
3)https://basicincome.org/news/2018/07/united-kingdom-study-suggests-that-welfare-conditionality-does-more-harm-than-good/

1) An opinion piece
2) Same as above hardly a surprise given source
3)...opposes placing conditions on welfare.

Most opinions are based on evidence.

[HISPIDA]

1) An opinion piece
2) Same as above hardly a surprise given source
3)...opposes placing conditions on welfare.

Most opinions are based on evidence.

opinion pieces aren't evidence themselves, though.

see, this is why i'm starting to think you're a shitposter.

[Neutraligon]

1) An opinion piece
2) Same as above hardly a surprise given source
3)...opposes placing conditions on welfare.

Most opinions are based on evidence.

I am sure you have evidence for this opinion. Like you said having an opinion (claiming something) does not mean they are speaking truth.

[Celritannia]

This isn't evidence, this is propaganda.
Also, one "article" is not evidence. What other actual sources do you have?

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00292533

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8036980/

Sadly, the 1st one costs £30 of my glorious monies.
But if it is like the second one, whether someone has sex inside or outside of marriage, self-esteem varies, except when a male has a child.

[EuroStralia]

Most opinions are based on evidence.

opinion pieces aren't evidence themselves, though.

see, this is why i'm starting to think you're a shitposter.

I'm not a shitposter.