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How far would you go...

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:13 pm
by WWII History Geeks
To protect your first amendmant rights? Would you kill to keep them intact? Or at the slightest hint of debate would you give them up?

DISCUSS! :lol:

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:14 pm
by Tom Bishop
There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:15 pm
by Straughn
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Win.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:15 pm
by WWII History Geeks
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm
by Tom Bishop
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm
by North Amerikan States
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

By that big scary world government? :rofl:

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm
by WWII History Geeks
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:18 pm
by Tsa-la-gi Nation
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?

I would pick up a rifle to protect the 1st ammendment.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:19 pm
by Tom Bishop
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.


In this point in time it would be hard to topple a government of Western Europe or North America which takes your rights. Especially if they're united under one regime.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:21 pm
by North Amerikan States
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.


In this point in time it would be hard to topple a government of Western Europe or North America which takes your rights. Especially if they're united under one regime.

Not really, you just need to use a different method.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:23 pm
by Tom Bishop
North Amerikan States wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.


In this point in time it would be hard to topple a government of Western Europe or North America which takes your rights. Especially if they're united under one regime.

Not really, you just need to use a different method.


The only important right is the right to think. Not out loud. Just think. All the other rights are pointless.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:23 pm
by Cobhanglica
As far as is necessary.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:26 pm
by Carls-land
i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:29 pm
by WWII History Geeks
All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:32 pm
by Carls-land
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

no i was just trying to get a point Through

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:33 pm
by Versaupt
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?


Hmm, good question. Don't think I could kill someone over it, if I'm honest.
I do enjoy having an opinion however, as well as the right to express that opinion.
I guess I'd protest.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:37 pm
by Straughn
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:37 pm
by Tsa-la-gi Nation
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

Once freedom of speech is gone, the powers that be can tell you what to think without a counter arguement.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:37 pm
by Carls-land
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:38 pm
by Cobhanglica
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?


Yes, because this right is an integral component of liberty.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:39 pm
by WWII History Geeks
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

Once freedom of speech is gone, the powers that be can tell you what to think without a counter arguement.

I think I would...but only in a revolution-like situation.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:39 pm
by Tsa-la-gi Nation
Carls-land wrote:
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns

Who's police & military?

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:41 pm
by Carls-land
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Carls-land wrote:
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns

Who's police & military?

any nation that is democratic

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:41 pm
by Tsa-la-gi Nation
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

Once freedom of speech is gone, the powers that be can tell you what to think without a counter arguement.

I think I would...but only in a revolution-like situation.

I agree. the right situation has to come up. If I would have live in the time of Eugene Debs, I would have rioted for his freedom.

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:41 pm
by Gun Manufacturers
Carls-land wrote:
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns


The First Amendment does not address firearms, firearms are addressed by the Second Amendment. Please stick to discussion on the First Amendment.