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Postby WWII History Geeks » Fri May 28, 2010 2:13 pm

To protect your first amendmant rights? Would you kill to keep them intact? Or at the slightest hint of debate would you give them up?

DISCUSS! :lol:
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Postby Tom Bishop » Fri May 28, 2010 2:14 pm

There's no point as we are already being oppressed.
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Postby Straughn » Fri May 28, 2010 2:15 pm

Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Win.
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Postby WWII History Geeks » Fri May 28, 2010 2:15 pm

Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?
The goldfish crackers will win. Do you know why they smile? Because when they get inside you they start eating you from the inside out.

Grandtaria: "I would rather live my life each day thinking there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my thinking that there isn't and die to find out there is."
Conservative Morality: "When in Rome, do as the Romans. When out of Rome, do as the Romans anyway, it's not like anyone is ballsy enough to piss off Rome."

Finally fixed: The thread may be gone, but I'm still a "To Hell with This'er!," damnit! :D

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Postby Tom Bishop » Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.
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Postby North Amerikan States » Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm

Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

By that big scary world government? :rofl:
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Postby WWII History Geeks » Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm

Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.
The goldfish crackers will win. Do you know why they smile? Because when they get inside you they start eating you from the inside out.

Grandtaria: "I would rather live my life each day thinking there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my thinking that there isn't and die to find out there is."
Conservative Morality: "When in Rome, do as the Romans. When out of Rome, do as the Romans anyway, it's not like anyone is ballsy enough to piss off Rome."

Finally fixed: The thread may be gone, but I'm still a "To Hell with This'er!," damnit! :D

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Fri May 28, 2010 2:18 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?

I would pick up a rifle to protect the 1st ammendment.
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Postby Tom Bishop » Fri May 28, 2010 2:19 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.


In this point in time it would be hard to topple a government of Western Europe or North America which takes your rights. Especially if they're united under one regime.
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Postby North Amerikan States » Fri May 28, 2010 2:21 pm

Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.


In this point in time it would be hard to topple a government of Western Europe or North America which takes your rights. Especially if they're united under one regime.

Not really, you just need to use a different method.
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Postby Tom Bishop » Fri May 28, 2010 2:23 pm

North Amerikan States wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tom Bishop wrote:There's no point as we are already being oppressed.

Then would you kill to regain those rights? How important are they to you?


They are unobtainable.

Okay, but say they were.


In this point in time it would be hard to topple a government of Western Europe or North America which takes your rights. Especially if they're united under one regime.

Not really, you just need to use a different method.


The only important right is the right to think. Not out loud. Just think. All the other rights are pointless.
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Postby Cobhanglica » Fri May 28, 2010 2:23 pm

As far as is necessary.
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Postby Carls-land » Fri May 28, 2010 2:26 pm

i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
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Postby WWII History Geeks » Fri May 28, 2010 2:29 pm

All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?
The goldfish crackers will win. Do you know why they smile? Because when they get inside you they start eating you from the inside out.

Grandtaria: "I would rather live my life each day thinking there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my thinking that there isn't and die to find out there is."
Conservative Morality: "When in Rome, do as the Romans. When out of Rome, do as the Romans anyway, it's not like anyone is ballsy enough to piss off Rome."

Finally fixed: The thread may be gone, but I'm still a "To Hell with This'er!," damnit! :D

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Postby Carls-land » Fri May 28, 2010 2:32 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

no i was just trying to get a point Through
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Postby Versaupt » Fri May 28, 2010 2:33 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?


Hmm, good question. Don't think I could kill someone over it, if I'm honest.
I do enjoy having an opinion however, as well as the right to express that opinion.
I guess I'd protest.
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Postby Straughn » Fri May 28, 2010 2:37 pm

Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Fri May 28, 2010 2:37 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

Once freedom of speech is gone, the powers that be can tell you what to think without a counter arguement.
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Postby Carls-land » Fri May 28, 2010 2:37 pm

Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns
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Postby Cobhanglica » Fri May 28, 2010 2:38 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?


Yes, because this right is an integral component of liberty.
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Postby WWII History Geeks » Fri May 28, 2010 2:39 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

Once freedom of speech is gone, the powers that be can tell you what to think without a counter arguement.

I think I would...but only in a revolution-like situation.
The goldfish crackers will win. Do you know why they smile? Because when they get inside you they start eating you from the inside out.

Grandtaria: "I would rather live my life each day thinking there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my thinking that there isn't and die to find out there is."
Conservative Morality: "When in Rome, do as the Romans. When out of Rome, do as the Romans anyway, it's not like anyone is ballsy enough to piss off Rome."

Finally fixed: The thread may be gone, but I'm still a "To Hell with This'er!," damnit! :D

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Fri May 28, 2010 2:39 pm

Carls-land wrote:
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns

Who's police & military?
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Postby Carls-land » Fri May 28, 2010 2:41 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Carls-land wrote:
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns

Who's police & military?

any nation that is democratic
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Fri May 28, 2010 2:41 pm

WWII History Geeks wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
WWII History Geeks wrote:All of you would kill just to be able to say what you want to?

Once freedom of speech is gone, the powers that be can tell you what to think without a counter arguement.

I think I would...but only in a revolution-like situation.

I agree. the right situation has to come up. If I would have live in the time of Eugene Debs, I would have rioted for his freedom.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Fri May 28, 2010 2:41 pm

Carls-land wrote:
Straughn wrote:
Carls-land wrote:i would do everything to stop those who seek to have these ''right's''
What?

only the police and military should have guns


The First Amendment does not address firearms, firearms are addressed by the Second Amendment. Please stick to discussion on the First Amendment.
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