What is your issue with anime based entertainment?

[Exarkyon]

I subjectively dislike it, but other people may consume it if they so desire.

Unless it is... the kind of anime in OP's nation name. That's as wrong as watching anything else of the category, really.

[Necroghastia]

my issue is not enough yuri

though... is the absence of yuri itself a form of yuri? hm...

[Galactic Powers]

Most anime haters actually just hate the anime subcultures of otaku and weebs, I think. I mean I enjoy anime and manga, yeah, but it’s just entertainment. The medium does have a following of people unusually dedicated to it though, and that’s what the people who dislike it tend to see.

They also tend to point to tropes like sexualization that are present in some genres

[Indecent Anime Empire]

Most anime haters actually just hate the anime subcultures of otaku and weebs, I think. I mean I enjoy anime and manga, yeah, but it’s just entertainment. The medium does have a following of people unusually dedicated to it though, and that’s what the people who dislike it tend to see.

That would make sense, anime has been getting a better wrap now than in the past but "otaku" and "weeb" are still a strong will of dissentient from anti-anime communities.

I would like to point out a similarity to anime to users of tik-tok. Both are media with intent to inform or entertain. Both have a group or population that dislikes their existence.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

I've only watched Angels of Death and that was pretty good.

My friend forced me to watch Spirited Away and that was alright.

I'm not really all the big into anime/anime things.

[Rostavykhan]

I'm wary of how mainstream anime and weeb culture are becoming in The West, personally. I just don't want to see it sanitized or normie-fied, especially since the cringe parts of anime culture are ironically what make it so endearing to me.

I'm also extremely picky about what I watch for no particular reason. My Hero Academia is the longest-running series that I care to watch, and the majority of my favourite series are Mid-2000's and Early-2010's. My favourite favourite series are still Fullmetal Alchemist and Durarara!!!, and I'm still very much attached to the cringey weeb/otaku lolrandom culture of the 2010's, but I've not gone out of my way to watch many newer series in recent years, and my cut-off for older series is, like, 1995 at the oldest. It just feels to me like there's all these dozens-to-hundreds of new series coming out, but none of them catch my interest for one reason or another. Maybe I'm just becoming more cynical and dismissing too many series based on "I don't like this genre" or "This cliche is dumb", even if they're series that I might otherwise enjoy.

JoJo is mid, Battle Tendency and Stardust Crusaders are the best arcs, I lost interest after Golden Wind.

I have not really watched anime and have no strong opinions about it. Unless you count Voltron, of course. Princess Allura was pretty, but when I watched it, I was way too young to think much else other than how cool Voltron was and how evil a certain King was.

All I have to say regarding Voltron is this: Lotor Did Nothing Wrong.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

I have always appreciated Japanese culture's historical affinity with and mastery of composite art forms, and like many of the contemporary denizens up and down the islands, old and young, that you will see consuming manga in a dizzying variety of subjects and form, I also treat it as mainstream as any singular entertainment form (book, stage, radio, tv, etc.) consumed by an adult westerner.

[Cannot think of a name]

The tropes eventually just get to me:
= Way to kenitic. Half the dialog does not need to be shouted and cutting down on dramatic pointing would be a real time saver
- Enough with the monologues in profile to a rose.
- The little spazz friend that's always pushing the hero into shit, usually citing some sort of weird code. I hit my limit with that watching Initial D and dude's spazzy little friend was all "You have to accept the challenge, it's the racer's code..." get the fuck outta here, I know it's a cultural difference but not everything needs a fucking code. Or a spazzy friend.
- the 'when in doubt, giant robot.' The worst part of Big-O? Giant robot. The rest of the premise was fucking amazing, and all of that had to grind to halt because it also had to be built around the giant robot which really undermined the cool neonoir feel the rest of the show had.
- Fucking. Wild takes. Especially that generic shock face with the giant sweat bead.
- Fights with more dialog than the Lincoln Douglas debates. Not saying you can't have dialog and development while swinging weapons around, but when the fights take several episodes, trim. Speaking of which-
- Fights that take several episodes. Or any amount of padding, like three episodes of someone doing sit ups in an accelerating space ship (Dragonball Z of some stripe or another...)
- Minmay...okay that one is just me.
- In general taking a great premise and then just spinning it wildly out of control. Big O, Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist...

NOT to say that any of that makes anime 'bad' and if you like anime you're at the very least not especially bothered by any of that and that's fine. Or you don't think these things are as common as I'm making them out to be and you're probably right. There's nothing wrong with enjoying all of that, it's just something that grinds me down to the point I realized I was forcing myself to watch anime more than I was enjoying it. There are still some things I've thoroughly enjoyed but in balance it hasn't been worth it to dig through the stuff I don't like to find something I like and my tastes differ enough from afficianados that 'recommendations' have been a total waste of time for both of us. And when you don't like someone's recommendation it gets awkward and sometimes aggressive so I just no longer take them at all. I have people who understand my tastes and have a better success rate and a total assurance that if I go 'not my thing' it doesn't become a 'thing.'

[Diarcesia]

The tropes eventually just get to me:
= Way to kenitic. Half the dialog does not need to be shouted and cutting down on dramatic pointing would be a real time saver
- Enough with the monologues in profile to a rose.
- The little spazz friend that's always pushing the hero into shit, usually citing some sort of weird code. I hit my limit with that watching Initial D and dude's spazzy little friend was all "You have to accept the challenge, it's the racer's code..." get the fuck outta here, I know it's a cultural difference but not everything needs a fucking code. Or a spazzy friend.
- the 'when in doubt, giant robot.' The worst part of Big-O? Giant robot. The rest of the premise was fucking amazing, and all of that had to grind to halt because it also had to be built around the giant robot which really undermined the cool neonoir feel the rest of the show had.
- Fucking. Wild takes. Especially that generic shock face with the giant sweat bead.
- Fights with more dialog than the Lincoln Douglas debates. Not saying you can't have dialog and development while swinging weapons around, but when the fights take several episodes, trim. Speaking of which-
- Fights that take several episodes. Or any amount of padding, like three episodes of someone doing sit ups in an accelerating space ship (Dragonball Z of some stripe or another...)
- Minmay...okay that one is just me.
- In general taking a great premise and then just spinning it wildly out of control. Big O, Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist...

NOT to say that any of that makes anime 'bad' and if you like anime you're at the very least not especially bothered by any of that and that's fine. Or you don't think these things are as common as I'm making them out to be and you're probably right. There's nothing wrong with enjoying all of that, it's just something that grinds me down to the point I realized I was forcing myself to watch anime more than I was enjoying it. There are still some things I've thoroughly enjoyed but in balance it hasn't been worth it to dig through the stuff I don't like to find something I like and my tastes differ enough from afficianados that 'recommendations' have been a total waste of time for both of us. And when you don't like someone's recommendation it gets awkward and sometimes aggressive so I just no longer take them at all. I have people who understand my tastes and have a better success rate and a total assurance that if I go 'not my thing' it doesn't become a 'thing.'

What do you think of Chainsaw Man? It consciously tried to take influences from Western media.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Most anime haters actually just hate the anime subcultures of otaku and weebs, I think. I mean I enjoy anime and manga, yeah, but it’s just entertainment. The medium does have a following of people unusually dedicated to it though, and that’s what the people who dislike it tend to see.

They also tend to point to tropes like sexualization that are present in some genres

Pretty much this, yeah. A lot of it is very weirdly oversexualized (especially in some very uncomfortable ways) and there's an odd number of people who don't just like anime but make it the very core of their personality.

[Ancient Poland]

To be honest, the sexualization of something is usually a draw rather than a drawback for most cultural phenomena. I find the usual complaints about sexualization to be tedious, pretentious, and sanctimonious. Most people enjoy sex and embrace at least some aspects of their sexuality, but somehow, magically, sexualization is supposed to be a bad thing. Our society really is perverse.

[Diarcesia]

To be honest, the sexualization of something is usually a draw rather than a drawback for most cultural phenomena. I find the usual complaints about sexualization to be tedious, pretentious, and sanctimonious. Most people enjoy sex and embrace at least some aspects of their sexuality, but somehow, magically, sexualization is supposed to be a bad thing. Our society really is perverse.

You can say society is tsundere over the concept lol.

[Ancient Poland]

To be honest, the sexualization of something is usually a draw rather than a drawback for most cultural phenomena. I find the usual complaints about sexualization to be tedious, pretentious, and sanctimonious. Most people enjoy sex and embrace at least some aspects of their sexuality, but somehow, magically, sexualization is supposed to be a bad thing. Our society really is perverse.

You can say society is tsundere over the concept lol.

Tsundere? Is that an anime term?

[Diarcesia]

You can say society is tsundere over the concept lol.

Tsundere? Is that an anime term?

Yeah. "It's... it's not that I like sexualization of characters or anything!"

[Cannot think of a name]

The tropes eventually just get to me:
= Way to kenitic. Half the dialog does not need to be shouted and cutting down on dramatic pointing would be a real time saver
- Enough with the monologues in profile to a rose.
- The little spazz friend that's always pushing the hero into shit, usually citing some sort of weird code. I hit my limit with that watching Initial D and dude's spazzy little friend was all "You have to accept the challenge, it's the racer's code..." get the fuck outta here, I know it's a cultural difference but not everything needs a fucking code. Or a spazzy friend.
- the 'when in doubt, giant robot.' The worst part of Big-O? Giant robot. The rest of the premise was fucking amazing, and all of that had to grind to halt because it also had to be built around the giant robot which really undermined the cool neonoir feel the rest of the show had.
- Fucking. Wild takes. Especially that generic shock face with the giant sweat bead.
- Fights with more dialog than the Lincoln Douglas debates. Not saying you can't have dialog and development while swinging weapons around, but when the fights take several episodes, trim. Speaking of which-
- Fights that take several episodes. Or any amount of padding, like three episodes of someone doing sit ups in an accelerating space ship (Dragonball Z of some stripe or another...)
- Minmay...okay that one is just me.
- In general taking a great premise and then just spinning it wildly out of control. Big O, Trigun, Full Metal Alchemist...

NOT to say that any of that makes anime 'bad' and if you like anime you're at the very least not especially bothered by any of that and that's fine. Or you don't think these things are as common as I'm making them out to be and you're probably right. There's nothing wrong with enjoying all of that, it's just something that grinds me down to the point I realized I was forcing myself to watch anime more than I was enjoying it. There are still some things I've thoroughly enjoyed but in balance it hasn't been worth it to dig through the stuff I don't like to find something I like and my tastes differ enough from afficianados that 'recommendations' have been a total waste of time for both of us. And when you don't like someone's recommendation it gets awkward and sometimes aggressive so I just no longer take them at all. I have people who understand my tastes and have a better success rate and a total assurance that if I go 'not my thing' it doesn't become a 'thing.'

What do you think of Chainsaw Man? It consciously tried to take influences from Western media.

Haven't heard of it. But like I said, I only take recommendations from curated people for all the above stated reasons.

[Sorcery]

I definitely enjoy anime but I have not watched it in a while and I prefer manga and I just like books in general but I like it a lot, despite my infrequent watching habits. I will say though that Studio Ghibli movies are really good.

[Vikanias]

Anime can be broken down it o 2 things, the anime itself and the fans, now I am no anime watcher myself, I like other stuff, but if you watch anime I don’t really give a shit. BUT some anime fans are the most tone deaf, obnoxious, degenerate group of people I’ve seen on this planet, don’t get me wrong most are good but as the saying goes a few bad apples ruin the bunch, some waste hundreds of dollars on body pillows and anime related things and just go on tangents whenever they think an anime reference was made (like that Jojo reference meme from like a year or two back), and don’t get me started on anime memes, all of them and I mean all of them aren’t funny, it’s either hehe anime funny reference or haha I’m so different because I love anime.

Now onto anime, they are aight. I don’t really want to watch any because I’m interested in other content, but there are also very bad anime’s, some are just de facto hentai, just boobs and horny bait, and that don’t paint a good picture when most people think of anime as porn lite because a bunch of it is just bait for people who are somehow attracted to it. And I remember there was some videos on an anime where the main characters love interest IS HIS OWN SISTER, AND HIS SISTER IS INTO IT TOO. Which is fucking terrible, overall anime is aight but there’s some bad stuff which shouldn’t be accepted, and it hopefully isn’t by people who like anime.


EDIT: I forgot, the only anime I have watched and liked is the Pokémon anime, though I haven’t watched in a while because everything after gen 6 kinda sucked, and with Gen 9 getting rid of Ash and Pikachu I probably won’t return to it but I will watch some older series for nostalgia.
6/10

[Cannot think of a name]

I definitely enjoy anime but I have not watched it in a while and I prefer man and I just like books in general but I like it a lot, despite my infrequent watching habits. I will say though that Studio Ghibli movies are really good.

I keep forgetting how generic a term 'anime' is and when you consider the whole of Japanese animation outside of ninjas and robots there's some breathtakingly beautiful work.

[The Lone Alliance]

I kind of like it though that is partly because I find that most American entertainment has grown stale.

[Major-Tom]

I have no issues with it, most anime just isn't for me personally, and (as in literally any fan group); some fans take it a little too far.

That said, I did enjoy one anime show; Cowboy Bebop. I thought that was a riot.

[HISPIDA]

I have no issues with it, most anime just isn't for me personally, and (as in literally any fan group); some fans take it a little too far.

That said, I did enjoy one anime show; Cowboy Bebop. I thought that was a riot.

if you liked cowboy bebop, check out samurai champloo. same director, shinichiro wantanabe, and the dub shares a voice actor for spike and mugen. it's basically "what if we merged 90's-00's hip hop with vaguely feudal japan" and it's glorious. very similar themes, although samurai champloo is a bit more light-hearted.

[Major-Tom]

I have no issues with it, most anime just isn't for me personally, and (as in literally any fan group); some fans take it a little too far.

That said, I did enjoy one anime show; Cowboy Bebop. I thought that was a riot.

if you liked cowboy bebop, check out samurai champloo. same director, shinichiro wantanabe, and the dub shares a voice actor for spike and mugen. it's basically "what if we merged 90's-00's hip hop with vaguely feudal japan" and it's glorious. very similar themes, although samurai champloo is a bit more light-hearted.

I'll give it a shot, always open to try new shows.

[Washington-Columbia]

This might be better placed in Arts & Fiction, but whatever. Besides, I haven't really watched a lot of Anime outside of Pokémon.


I don't really have a lot of problems with Anime, but if I had to name one, I'd say stretching out the show for way too long. I understand that it's hard to let go of a fan-favorite show, but it can get stale after a long time.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

All people are set into two groups, you have seen anime and you have qualms about it or you haven't watched a single frame of anime and have strong opinion about it.

This can be an argument about why it is the worst form of entertainment on earth or why it should to be produced in more variety.

The thread includes main animation such as Japanese anime, recently upcoming Chinese anime, or the lesser known Korean based anime.

I would like to stay away from American based cartoons but exceptions can be made for animations based around fluid concepts. A prime example of an exception would be "Avatar: The Last Air Bender".

Manga is relatable but keep it within the range of the topic.

First question, did you grow into anime or grow up with anime? (base age to grow up with is 15 at most, after that you grew into it)

I have watched only ONE anime (note: actually watched, sat down and paid attention to), I know when i was like 8 and it was like late at night there was DBZ on but you know, I was half asleep and barely paying attention so that doesn't count.

[HISPIDA]

if you liked cowboy bebop, check out samurai champloo. same director, shinichiro wantanabe, and the dub shares a voice actor for spike and mugen. it's basically "what if we merged 90's-00's hip hop with vaguely feudal japan" and it's glorious. very similar themes, although samurai champloo is a bit more light-hearted.

I'll give it a shot, always open to try new shows.

if you're open to more experimental weird shit with deep messages, i'll always recommend serial experiments lain. requires a bit of thought to really understand and there's a big ol' content warning for suicide, but it's my favorite anime (even if i don't think it's the best one i've ever watched, that probably goes to cowboy bebop) and strikes a really great balance with weird metaphysical shit, down-to-earth plotlines, and actually manages to explain all of it in a pretty decent way.

it also has a banger of an opening that i listen to regularly.