Cuba Sunday March 26 2023 Parliamentary Elections.Vo

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Vote and Post: Cuba is a one Political Party state, you may discuss the Pros and Cons? The Leaders say the are the continuity of the eternal democratic revolution? You may discuss it? You may discuss democracy in Cuba and the future of Cuba?

It has been at least a year and 7 months since thousands of Cubans protested against the government across Cuba, the Cuban government cut off all telephone and internet access to Cuba, and many were killed and imprisoned, and many Cubans are now Cuban Balsero Rafters again and a record number of Cubans are fleeing Cuba through third nations all over Hispanic America, Latin Brazil, Europe and other nations. Many Political activist dissidents have been forced into exile in Miami like, Rosa María Payá
Sardiñas, daughter of the late Oswaldo Payá Sardiñas, and their seems to evidence the Cuban regime ordered the death of Oswaldo Payá Sardiñas, in a fake and planned car accident. Like Eliécer Ávila and many others have been forced into exile . You may discuss these issues?

Cubans and Cuban American Protests in Miami in support of Cubans in Cuba:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgN7K2tvfb4

Cubans in Cuba anti government protests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTxiav3EU1c

Cuban Americans protest in Miami and other cities of the world, like this Protest in Miami and this protest in front of The White House.
In Miami:

At The White House:
https://twitter.com/Christina_UGC/statu ... 8494077955

In Tampa Florida:
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/sta ... 4120983554

Here we go again, on Sunday March 26 2023, there will be Parliamentary elections in Cuba to elect the 470 Parliament deputy's for 5 year terms. The 470 candidates for the 470 seats have been pre nominated, selected and elected by candidate commissions of the workers, legally registered non governmental social organizations of the masses, like The Committees for the Defense of the Revolution the CDRs, and approved by The National Candidates Commission.

Cubans may vote for the candidate of their districts and provinces and for all 470 candidates called The Unity Vote.

Cuba is a one Political Party state, you may discuss the Pros and Cons? The Leaders say the are the continuity of the eternal democratic revolution? You may discuss it? You may discuss democracy in Cuba and the future of Cuba?

The candidates are not allowed to campaign against each other, because their are no candidates to campaign against. Like in the old Soviet Union and former Eastern European communist nations, posters with their Pics, names, professions and voluntary work records or not for the revolutions, are posted in public spaces and buildings. But they meet with x numbers of people at certain committee meetings.

All Cuban citizens who have not committed crimes and have not been found mentally ill by a doctor may vote and participate in the democratic elections as a candidate to The Cuban National Assembly Parliament CNAP.

Certain candidates many of you know about:
For the Province of Matanzas:

1: Elián González Brotons, now 29 years old, for the province of Mantanzas and the municipio of Cárdenas, he is now a director of ATEC Commercial government Corporation.

2 - Joel Ortega Dopico. Presidente of the Council of Churches of Cuba, lol .

For La Habana City Province:

3: Bruno Eduardo Rodriguez Parrilla, Minister of Foreign Diplomatic Affairs.

4: General Álvaro López Miera - Minister of Defense and Communist Party Politburo member, notice that General Raúl Castro Ruz, has been demoted to just General of the Army, lol, if you believe it? But you may discuss it, also a Communist Party Politburo member.

5: General Raúl Castro Ruz for Santiago de Cuba Province.

6: President Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez of Cuba, and First Secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba and Politburo member, for the Province of Villa Clara, or Santa Clara Province, former Province of Las Villas.

For La Habana City Province:

7: Mariela Castro Espín, daughter of Raúl Castro Ruz and Vilma Espín Guillois, they are of España La Madre Patria and French descent, at least 500,000 French Euro Cubans, still carry their French sur names as their first family name, I GMS know such a family in Chicago.

8 - Gerardo Hernández Nordelo. National Director of The Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, lol .

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Reserved for election results.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Reserved for other comments.

[El Lazaro]

Communists try not to come up with a Rube Goldberg machine of an electoral system that pretends to be free and fair (impossible) (gone undemocratic) (nearly died protesting)

[Nilokeras]

Communists try not to come up with a Rube Goldberg machine of an electoral system that pretends to be free and fair (impossible) (gone undemocratic) (nearly died protesting)

One always remembers the old chestnut by Nyerere when Americans complain about one party states:

'Yes, we have one party here [in Tanzania]. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!'

[Cuba 2022 RP]

There was a bigger counter-protest against the protest, but of course the American media took footage of the counter-protest, censored the pro-Communist signs, and framed it as part of the protest.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

There was a bigger counter-protest against the protest, but of course the American media took footage of the counter-protest, censored the pro-Communist signs, and framed it as part of the protest.

You sound like a Pro Castro, Pro Cuba government supporter? are you a Pro Castro's, Pro Cuba government supporter? What Poll options did you vote for?

[Cuba 2022 RP]

There was a bigger counter-protest against the protest, but of course the American media took footage of the counter-protest, censored the pro-Communist signs, and framed it as part of the protest.

You sound like a Pro Castro, Pro Cuba government supporter? are you a Pro Castro's, Pro Cuba government supporter?

I am anti-embargo, anti-America. I am not necessarily in support of Cuba’s government, it should democratize and become a multi-party democracy, but it should stay socialist and America should stop embargoing it

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

You sound like a Pro Castro, Pro Cuba government supporter? are you a Pro Castro's, Pro Cuba government supporter?

I am anti-embargo, anti-America. I am not necessarily in support of Cuba’s government, it should democratize and become a multi-party democracy, but it should stay socialist and America should stop embargoing it

Dude, the point of my poll options and video links is, the Cuban regime refuses to democratize Cuba into a multi party democracy, as they say we are the continuity of the eternal democratic revolution, this statement says it all and proves it all. But I should have included more poll options like a European, western style multi political party, socialist democracy, which is actually based on Capitalism $, as they are all Capitalists $. There is no such thing as a multi political party, democratic socialist nation, because it goes against the economic principles of capitalism $.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

where’s the option for people who want cuba to democratize but not turn into a western state?

[El Lazaro]

where’s the option for people who want cuba to democratize but not turn into a western state?

Western-style as in having a democratic political system. Cuba is already western in a more literal sense, so the idea of it becoming geographically/culturally/etc. western is kind of silly.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

where’s the option for people who want cuba to democratize but not turn into a western state?

Ill take your post in vote. oh you mean like for you? Please describe in details what you mean by democratize, but not turned into a western state? What Poll options did you vote for if any?

1: Do you mean a European style, multi, political party, socialist government, under under a capitalist economy, as they all are?

2: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with multi political parties?

03: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with a democratic one political party state?

04: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a democratic one political party state?

I argue neither options 2, 3 and 4 are possible, so not on the Poll.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

where’s the option for people who want cuba to democratize but not turn into a western state?

Ill take your post in vote. oh you mean like for you? Please describe in details what you mean by democratize, but not turned into a western state? What Poll options did you vote for if any?

1: Do you mean a European style, multi, political party, socialist government, under under a capitalist economy, as they all are?

2: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with multi political parties?

03: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with a democratic one political party state?

04: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a democratic one political party state?

I argue neither options 2, 3 and 4 are possible, so not on the Poll.

western states are often plagued by corruption and flawed systems. I dislike single-party states because of how they distribute power. I similarly dislike american-style systems because of how they distribute power. they result in two-party states where the only choice is the lesser evil and where both parties are funded by the rich to keep power far away from the poor. I can’t speak on every western system, but considering they’re fundamentally not all that different from the american system I doubt they’re much better. what I want for cuba is what I want for the west: real political choice. I think socialism could work if it was steered by the people. I don’t think that’s what’s happening now.

[El Lazaro]

Ill take your post in vote. oh you mean like for you? Please describe in details what you mean by democratize, but not turned into a western state? What Poll options did you vote for if any?

1: Do you mean a European style, multi, political party, socialist government, under under a capitalist economy, as they all are?

2: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with multi political parties?

03: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with a democratic one political party state?

04: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a democratic one political party state?

I argue neither options 2, 3 and 4 are possible, so not on the Poll.

western states are often plagued by corruption and flawed systems. I dislike single-party states because of how they distribute power. I similarly dislike american-style systems because of how they distribute power. they result in two-party states where the only choice is the lesser evil and where both parties are funded by the rich to keep power far away from the poor. I can’t speak on every western system, but considering they’re fundamentally not all that different from the american system I doubt they’re much better. what I want for cuba is what I want for the west: real political choice. I think socialism could work if it was steered by the people. I don’t think that’s what’s happening now.

Not everything is about how America is evil and has ruined the entire world. Multiparty democracies exist, and even plurality voting systems can produce major third parties. Unlike most Western democracies, the US lacks serious regional politics outside of opposition to civil rights in the Deep South, only has fringe and unpopular third parties, and has not added proportional or semi-proportional aspects to the electoral system. It’s an outlier rather than the rule, and a lack of socialism isn’t what causes archaic election rules, out-of-touch third parties, and voters’ lack of interest in alternatives.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Ill take your post in vote. oh you mean like for you? Please describe in details what you mean by democratize, but not turned into a western state? What Poll options did you vote for if any?

1: Do you mean a European style, multi, political party, socialist government, under under a capitalist economy, as they all are?

2: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with multi political parties?

03: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a mixed capitalist, socialist economy with a democratic one political party state?

04: Do you mean a democratic socialist nation with a democratic one political party state?

I argue neither options 2, 3 and 4 are possible, so not on the Poll.

western states are often plagued by corruption and flawed systems. I dislike single-party states because of how they distribute power. I similarly dislike american-style systems because of how they distribute power. they result in two-party states where the only choice is the lesser evil and where both parties are funded by the rich to keep power far away from the poor. I can’t speak on every western system, but considering they’re fundamentally not all that different from the american system I doubt they’re much better. what I want for cuba is what I want for the west: real political choice. I think socialism could work if it was steered by the people. I don’t think that’s what’s happening now.

ok fair enough. I strongly respect the democratic right and freedom of speech to think differently. But I know many persons who don't respect the democratic right and freedom of speech to think differently. These many certain persons are undemocratic, arrogant and intolerant persons.

You and I strongly respect the democratic right and freedom of speech to think differently, and we are not the only persons who do.

I sent you a TG asking you describe in details what you mean by democratize, but not turned into a western state? and if is a good detailed post I will make it an official post in option, and I will add it to the poll results in my poll reports from time to time. But while you have not done so as I expected you will. I will make the three poll options I argue are not possible, official post in votes and I will add all 4 options.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Not everything is about how America is evil and has ruined the entire world.

good, because I never said it was.

I seriously doubt that by "western democracy", GMS meant Germany.

and even plurality voting systems can produce major third parties.

rarely.

and a lack of socialism isn’t what causes archaic election rules, out-of-touch third parties

good, because I never said it was.

and voters’ lack of interest in alternatives.

excuse me, what?

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Not everything is about how America is evil and has ruined the entire world.

good, because I never said it was.

I seriously doubt that by "western democracy", GMS meant Germany.

and even plurality voting systems can produce major third parties.

rarely.

and a lack of socialism isn’t what causes archaic election rules, out-of-touch third parties

good, because I never said it was.

and voters’ lack of interest in alternatives.

excuse me, what?

By western style, multi political party democracies, GMS means Canada and all European nations, currently governed by democrat socialist governments, like Germany and the Nordic nations of Europe, who are called so called socialist nations, but are based on capitalism $. who use taxation for socialist goals as much as possible, and I am GMS. This is what many persons on NS and my good friend and best leftist friend on NS, leftists socialist James, as I call him, because he is a socialist, wants for my native nation of Cuba, but he goes further in his economic policies than I desire. but I have no doubts James would make a great democratic socialist President for any nation, who cares about the people, and he is strongly anti communist and anti the Cuban military communist socialist dictatorship regime s, eternal revolution of Cuba, as they say they are continuity of the eternal democratic revolution, a statement that says it all and proves it all.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Why do they change the amount of seats in the legislature? Last time it was 605 seats now it’s down to 474.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Why do they change the amount of seats in the legislature? Last time it was 605 seats now it’s down to 474.

I guess they had 605 seats to accommodate their political interests. lol in Cuba it does not matter how many seats they have in their undemocratic, one Political Party State Parliament.

[El Lazaro]

Not everything is about how America is evil and has ruined the entire world.

good, because I never said it was.

I seriously doubt that by "western democracy", GMS meant Germany.

and even plurality voting systems can produce major third parties.

rarely.

and a lack of socialism isn’t what causes archaic election rules, out-of-touch third parties

good, because I never said it was.

and voters’ lack of interest in alternatives.

excuse me, what?

GMS is not crazy enough to believe Germany is still a dictatorship, though he is pretty old IIRC.

Then what’s the difference between a Western-style democracy and a liberal democracy that is somehow not Western-style?

[The Jamesian Republic]

good, because I never said it was.

I seriously doubt that by "western democracy", GMS meant Germany.



rarely.



good, because I never said it was.



excuse me, what?

GMS is not crazy enough to believe Germany is still a dictatorship, though he is pretty old IIRC.

Then what’s the difference between a Western-style democracy and a liberal democracy that is somehow not Western-style?

Idk.

[El Lazaro]

Why do they change the amount of seats in the legislature? Last time it was 605 seats now it’s down to 474.

Given how the elections are predetermined, it probably has something to do with how many political elites they want to keep loyal vs. how much they’re willing to spend on the salaries of cronies.

“Communist” oligarchies are sort of like the UK Parliament under feudalism. There’s a false pretense that the people actually hold some power, as well as a formalized way to represent the rich and powerful below the dictator, allowing the aristocracy and the head of state to mediate amongst themselves while appearing more legitimate. Sure, the whole thing about having a ridiculously bloated and unelected legislature chosen by the state might seem silly, but it checks out when you realize “socialism” in practice is just a more backwards and authoritarian version of capitalism.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Why do they change the amount of seats in the legislature? Last time it was 605 seats now it’s down to 474.

Given how the elections are predetermined, it probably has something to do with how many political elites they want to keep loyal vs. how much they’re willing to spend on the salaries of cronies.

I see a lot of people got a pay cut or were terminated (some cases literally)

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Why do they change the amount of seats in the legislature? Last time it was 605 seats now it’s down to 474.

Given how the elections are predetermined, it probably has something to do with how many political elites they want to keep loyal vs. how much they’re willing to spend on the salaries of cronies.

“Communist” oligarchies are sort of like the UK Parliament under feudalism. There’s a false pretense that the people actually hold some power, as well as a formalized way to represent the rich and powerful below the dictator, allowing the aristocracy and the head of state to mediate amongst themselves while appearing more legitimate. Sure, the whole thing about having a ridiculously bloated and unelected legislature chosen by the state might seem silly, but it checks out when you realize “socialism” in practice is just a more backwards and authoritarian version of capitalism.

Yes, this is what I meant by, I guess they had 605 seats to accommodate their political interests. lol in Cuba it does not matter how many seats they have in their undemocratic, one Political Party State Parliament.

According to the Cuban government the deputies and I guess all representatives are volunteers who do not receive any money $, or political favors and, lol on no political favors and privileges.

[-Astoria-]

Given how the elections are predetermined, it probably has something to do with how many political elites they want to keep loyal vs. how much they’re willing to spend on the salaries of cronies.

I see a lot of people got a pay cut or were terminated (some cases literally)

Maybe even a sprinkling of detention (more likely).