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What is wokeism?

Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:01 am

The term "woke" and it's derivatives have been used in a positive and a negative way in politics, especially recently (despite the term's roots stretching to the 1950s).
Here I will attempt a definition
(A difficult task, as anyone, feminist or anti-feminist, will tell you is true of defining feminism as well).
My answer
Wokeism is a sociologically-focused, left-wing philosophy, where the cultural war takes the place that the class struggle held for the old left (such as Marxists).
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Postby Adamede » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:03 am

A boogeyman most of the time.

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Postby Past beans » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:03 am

I've always thought wokeism was an insult, not an actual term.
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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:06 am

Past beans wrote:I've always thought wokeism was an insult, not an actual term.

Maybe the "-Ism" bit is. Like how racists call themselves "racist scientists" etcetera.
A boogeyman most of the time.

Possibly actually, seeing as most of the British population still don't have university degrees and most of the world is Asia or Africa in any case.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:07 am

“Wokeism” is a gibberish snarl word. Defining it makes less sense than clarifying what obamunism entails.

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Postby Eden Ultima » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:07 am

Fan-T Pashtunistan wrote:The term "woke" and it's derivatives have been used in a positive and a negative way in politics, especially recently (despite the term's roots stretching to the 1950s).
Here I will attempt a definition
(A difficult task, as anyone, feminist or anti-feminist, will tell you is true of defining feminism as well).
My answer
Wokeism is a sociologically-focused, left-wing philosophy, where the cultural war takes the place that the class struggle held for the old left (such as Marxists).



It's bull@#$% . Utterly worthless bull!@#$.

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When you wake up.
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Unojo wrote:When you wake up.

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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:11 am

Eden Ultima wrote:
Fan-T Pashtunistan wrote:The term "woke" and it's derivatives have been used in a positive and a negative way in politics, especially recently (despite the term's roots stretching to the 1950s).
Here I will attempt a definition
(A difficult task, as anyone, feminist or anti-feminist, will tell you is true of defining feminism as well).
My answer
Wokeism is a sociologically-focused, left-wing philosophy, where the cultural war takes the place that the class struggle held for the old left (such as Marxists).



It's bull@#$% . Utterly worthless bull!@#$.


I agree. I wish more students at my university did.
“Wokeism” is a gibberish snarl word. Defining it makes less sense than clarifying what obamunism entails.

Obamunism is a contradiction in terms (at least in this world) because of Obama and communism, there's nothing in wokeism (at least as I have defined it) that's a contradiction.
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Postby Cameroon african state TNO rp » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:12 am

how the F*CFKFFJJJJRR is this getting side tracked 8 posts in

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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:12 am

A meaningless buzzword used by conservatives in the same way as cultural bolshevism once was.
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Does not exist, but it's a great buzz word for controlling conservatives
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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:13 am

Necroghastia wrote:A meaningless buzzword used by conservatives in the same way as cultural bolshevism once was.

Did you actually see my definition before deciding whether you agree with it or not?
Ok, what's wrong with my definition?
And is Slavoj Zizek a conservative?
Does not exist, but it's a great buzz word for controlling conservatives

And Marxists from Yugoslavia, apparently.
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-"Latest interest-rates crisis shows supremacy of Islamic finance"- Grand Mufti.
- War Minister, Akbar Zahir Khan, dies in airstrikes.

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Postby Striagro Uspil » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:14 am

In the beginning, being "woke" was a term used for someone who is aware of racial discrimination in society and other forms of oppression and injustice. Over time however, it has been used as a pejorative for (usually right or center-leaning) people who take wokism too far: those of label everything as racist and sexist because of systemic oppression and patriarchy, all white people are oppressors and have white privilege, only white people can be racist, masculinity is toxic, etc., etc.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:14 am

Necroghastia wrote:A meaningless buzzword used by conservatives in the same way as cultural bolshevism once was.

“Conservatives” is too generous of a euphemism

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Postby Kenjino » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:15 am

A word you use to artificially create a reason to make something the boogeyman of the week when you don’t have an actual reason

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Postby Past beans » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:16 am

Fan-T Pashtunistan wrote:
Past beans wrote:I've always thought wokeism was an insult, not an actual term.

Maybe the "-Ism" bit is. Like how racists call themselves "racist scientists" etcetera.
A boogeyman most of the time.

Possibly actually, seeing as most of the British population still don't have university degrees and most of the world is Asia or Africa in any case.

I've literally never heard anyone call themselves a racist scientist.
I’ll make factbooks when I think of shit to write about!

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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:16 am

El Lazaro wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:A meaningless buzzword used by conservatives in the same way as cultural bolshevism once was.

“Conservatives” is too generous of a euphemism

Is Slavoj Zizek a fascist?
Are right-libertarians fascists?
Are classical liberals fascist?
Who then, is not a fascist?
I've literally never heard anyone call themselves a racist scientist.

It was a typo I meant racists "call themselves 'race scientists'".
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News:
- Nation has "average" levels of women's rights, "high" levels of men's rights.
-"Latest interest-rates crisis shows supremacy of Islamic finance"- Grand Mufti.
- War Minister, Akbar Zahir Khan, dies in airstrikes.

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Postby Regnum Alea Spaceflee » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:17 am

Mental deterioration on an international level, or just a bunch of hoo-ha.
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Postby Cameroon african state TNO rp » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:17 am

Striagro Uspil wrote:In the beginning, being "woke" was a term used for someone who is aware of racial discrimination in society and other forms of oppression and injustice. Over time however, it has been used as a pejorative for (usually right or center-leaning) people who take wokism too far: those of label everything as racist and sexist because of systemic oppression and patriarchy, all white people are oppressors and have white privilege, only white people can be racist, masculinity is toxic, etc., etc.

you are, absolutely fricking correct my guy

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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:18 am

A word you use to artificially create a reason to make something the boogeyman of the week when you don’t have an actual reason

Ok, and what is the definition of this "fictional" bogeyman? Fictional entities can still be defined, for example, the dictionary has a definition of a unicorn
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-"Latest interest-rates crisis shows supremacy of Islamic finance"- Grand Mufti.
- War Minister, Akbar Zahir Khan, dies in airstrikes.

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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:18 am

Fan-T Pashtunistan wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:“Conservatives” is too generous of a euphemism

Is Slavoj Zizek a fascist?
Are right-libertarians fascists?
Are classical liberals fascist?
Who then, is not a fascist?
I've literally never heard anyone call themselves a racist scientist.

It was a typo I meant racists "call themselves 'race scientists'".

What?

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Postby Eahland » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:19 am

"Wokeism" is how bigots say "not being a bigot".
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Postby Fan-T Pashtunistan » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:19 am

El Lazaro wrote:
Fan-T Pashtunistan wrote:Is Slavoj Zizek a fascist?
Are right-libertarians fascists?
Are classical liberals fascist?
Who then, is not a fascist?

It was a typo I meant racists "call themselves 'race scientists'".

What?

Yeah like the Nazis called themselves "race scientists", look it up.
And all the groups and the individual I named oppose wokeism, is everyone from a classical liberal to a Marxist "fascist"?
"Wokeism" is how bigots say "not being a bigot".

Finally, someone who addresses the argument rather than using the "it's a made-up word card" (Which is true, all words are made-up).
So, if, hypothetically, I believe there are natural differences in the brains of men and women, I am a bigot?
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-"Latest interest-rates crisis shows supremacy of Islamic finance"- Grand Mufti.
- War Minister, Akbar Zahir Khan, dies in airstrikes.

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Postby Regnum Alea Spaceflee » Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:21 am

Fan-T Pashtunistan wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:What?

Yeah like the Nazis called themselves "race scientists", look it up.
And all the groups and the individual I named oppose wokeism, is everyone from a classical liberal to a Marxist "fascist"?

I do not oppose being "Woke" (I have to put in into quotes as the word has pretty much no meaning anymore other than cancel culture.) but "Wokeism" seems to be a Wee bit extreme.
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