Is religion good?

[Floofybit]

If he tells us everything, life is pointless

If there's eternal life after death, life is pointless.

Not everyone gets eternal life. Those who deserve it will get it first, then those who don't so much will get it second, then worse get third, and some will get none

[Alledania]

Well im a atheist so i guess you guys know my opinion!

[Floofybit]

Hitler doesn't give us eternal life and happiness

Happiness like tuberculosis or volcanoes?

No, that will all be gone (unless you really like volcanoes, but they won't hurt you)

[Floofybit]

Well im a atheist so i guess you guys know my opinion!

Atheism is a religion

[Najairadarethu]

However, religious and Abrahamic hostilities to other religions can, no doubt, be traced back to the basic division between them - faith. Because faith is an emotional, indoctrinated justification rather than empirical explanation for belief, it is the perfect recipe for unsolvable dispute.

By that logic, then we also need to get rid of ideologies of any form, sports affiliations, or literally any other form of self-identification, because all of them can lead to disputes. Wars have been fought over soccer/football matches, or on race or ethnicity, or due to political affiliation, etc.

Just to be clear what you're talking about: Which football match has ever led to a war?

And while you're right about the general dangers of social identities, you are missing a decisive point: Most religions - and in modern times, islam more than others - have a very uncompromising claim to exlcusiveness, along with a a doctrine of infallibility. This increases the dangerous potential of identities tenfold.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

If there's eternal life after death, life is pointless.

Not everyone gets eternal life. Those who deserve it will get it first, then those who don't so much will get it second, then worse get third, and some will get none

“Loves all” was it?

[Arval Va]

Happiness like tuberculosis or volcanoes?

No, that will all be gone (unless you really like volcanoes, but they won't hurt you)

But why would Yahweh make people suffer these things in their mortal life? According to the Bible, Yahweh does not suffer these things, and Yahweh was first - so he must have invented the concept of pain, or sickness, or death specifically for humans. Why force his creations to suffer these things?

[Floofybit]

Not everyone gets eternal life. Those who deserve it will get it first, then those who don't so much will get it second, then worse get third, and some will get none

“Loves all” was it?

He loves all. He wants what's best for everyone

[Arval Va]

Well im a atheist so i guess you guys know my opinion!

Atheism is a religion

Atheism is the lack of faith. If someone practices atheism as a religion, it's not atheism.

[Najairadarethu]

Well im a atheist so i guess you guys know my opinion!

Atheism is a religion

No, it's not. Atheism has no spiritual dogmata, no set of norms or other practices derived from these dogmata, and since it goes along with agnosticism in 99% of all cases, it makes no metaphysical claims. Don't confuse provisional assumptions or beliefs with faith.

[Floofybit]

Atheism is a religion

Atheism is the lack of faith. If someone practices atheism as a religion, it's not atheism.

I thought that was antireligion

[Arval Va]

“Loves all” was it?

He loves all. He wants what's best for everyone

Like eternal torture?

[Floofybit]

He loves all. He wants what's best for everyone

Like eternal torture?

If people reject him and eternal life, yes, but most will receive resurrection at some point

[Floofybit]

No, that will all be gone (unless you really like volcanoes, but they won't hurt you)

But why would Yahweh make people suffer these things in their mortal life? According to the Bible, Yahweh does not suffer these things, and Yahweh was first - so he must have invented the concept of pain, or sickness, or death specifically for humans. Why force his creations to suffer these things?

If people never learn what bad is, they can never understand what good is. Also, God wasn't first, and won't be the last

[Arval Va]

Atheism is the lack of faith. If someone practices atheism as a religion, it's not atheism.

I thought that was antireligion

Atheism has no holy book.
Atheism has no preachers.
Atheism has no dogma.
Atheism has no religious schools.
Atheism has no churches.
Atheism has no punishments prescribed for any specific action.
Atheism has no ritual.

Is religion even possible without at least some of those things?

[Arval Va]

Like eternal torture?

If people reject him and eternal life, yes, but most will receive resurrection at some point

Only most?
I can conceive of no possible offense that would warrant infinite, or even just a few hundred years, of constant torture.

[Arval Va]

But why would Yahweh make people suffer these things in their mortal life? According to the Bible, Yahweh does not suffer these things, and Yahweh was first - so he must have invented the concept of pain, or sickness, or death specifically for humans. Why force his creations to suffer these things?

If people never learn what bad is, they can never understand what good is. Also, God wasn't first, and won't be the last

Do you want to tell that to people dying of malaria?

[Alledania]

I thought that was antireligion

Atheism has no holy book.
Atheism has no preachers.
Atheism has no dogma.
Atheism has no religious schools.
Atheism has no churches.
Atheism has no punishments prescribed for any specific action.
Atheism has no ritual.

Is religion even possible without at least some of those things?

Practicing Atheism as a religion defeats the whole purpose of atheism.

[Floofybit]

I thought that was antireligion

Atheism has no holy book.
Atheism has no preachers.
Atheism has no dogma.
Atheism has no religious schools.
Atheism has no churches.
Atheism has no punishments prescribed for any specific action.
Atheism has no ritual.

Is religion even possible without at least some of those things?

Just belief, I thought. But whatever you say

[Arval Va]

Atheism has no holy book.
Atheism has no preachers.
Atheism has no dogma.
Atheism has no religious schools.
Atheism has no churches.
Atheism has no punishments prescribed for any specific action.
Atheism has no ritual.

Is religion even possible without at least some of those things?

Just belief, I thought. But whatever you say

Religion isn't religion without at least some form of community or organisation.

[Floofybit]

If people never learn what bad is, they can never understand what good is. Also, God wasn't first, and won't be the last

Do you want to tell that to people dying of malaria?

No, they're not on NSG rn. But if they are, yes

[Floofybit]

If people reject him and eternal life, yes, but most will receive resurrection at some point

Only most?
I can conceive of no possible offense that would warrant infinite, or even just a few hundred years, of constant torture.

Rejecting him. After death there is paradise and prison. In prison, you get a chance to convert to receive paradise. If you reject God, you don't deserve to be with God. If you don't want be with God, you don't.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Only most?
I can conceive of no possible offense that would warrant infinite, or even just a few hundred years, of constant torture.

Rejecting him. After death there is paradise and prison. In prison, you get a chance to convert to receive paradise. If you reject God, you don't deserve to be with God. If you don't want be with God, you don't.

I’ll accept god when I see/hear/touch him.

[Necroghastia]

“Loves all” was it?

He loves all. He wants what's best for everyone

So it was what was best for some literal children to get mauled to death by bears because they made fun of a bald man?

[Floofybit]

Rejecting him. After death there is paradise and prison. In prison, you get a chance to convert to receive paradise. If you reject God, you don't deserve to be with God. If you don't want be with God, you don't.

I’ll accept god when I see/hear/touch him.

Blessed are those who believe without seeing.

When you die, you will likely go to Spirit Prison. However, by then you'll realize we're right, and be able to know he's real. Then you'll believe and go to paradise.