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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
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No
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IDK/Other
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Dimetrodon Empire
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 18, 2023 4:34 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I don't post satire.

This is exactly what Alger would say

It's something you both would say.
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:This is exactly what Alger would say

It's something you both would say.

Huh?

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 4:38 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:This is exactly what Alger would say

It's something you both would say.


All my opinions are exactly what I think.

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:It's something you both would say.


All my opinions are exactly what I think.

I have trouble believing that for some reason. You seem like a caricature, and lots of your beliefs must be deliberately absurd.

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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 18, 2023 4:43 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
All my opinions are exactly what I think.

I have trouble believing that for some reason. You seem like a caricature, and lots of your beliefs must be deliberately absurd.

I think he's honest, just supports the Democratic Party at every instance
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Postby Celritannia » Thu May 18, 2023 4:43 pm

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Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:That's not what he meant and you know it, Lumen.


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This is truly flabbergasting.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 18, 2023 4:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4011344-abbott-confirms-first-bus-of-migrants-has-arrived-in-colorado/

Abbott confirms first bus of migrants has arrived in Colorado

I think its also time to end sanctuary city policies. Places like New York have no room for them anymore.

Remember when Ron DeSantis trafficked a bunch of asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard and the right wing press had a field day, falling over themselves to proclaim that the liberals have shown their true colours, claiming to support migrants until those migrants turn up in their neighbourhood. Well, that isn't what happened in Martha's Vineyard, in fact the locals helped in any way they could until more suitable arrangements could be made, but it is exactly what you're doing. When the likes of DeSantis or other Republicans talk about phony big city liberals, they're talking about you.

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:48 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:I have trouble believing that for some reason. You seem like a caricature, and lots of your beliefs must be deliberately absurd.

I think he's honest, just supports the Democratic Party at every instance

Exterminating all homeless people and refusing to construct multi-floor residential buildings for rich people aren’t Democratic policies; they’re the ravings of a fictional character intended to mock urbanites.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 4:52 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I think he's honest, just supports the Democratic Party at every instance

Exterminating all homeless people and refusing to construct multi-floor residential buildings for rich people aren’t Democratic policies; they’re the ravings of a fictional character intended to mock urbanites.


I never said I wanted to exterminate homeless people. I have no idea where you got that from.

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Exterminating all homeless people and refusing to construct multi-floor residential buildings for rich people aren’t Democratic policies; they’re the ravings of a fictional character intended to mock urbanites.


I never said I wanted to exterminate homeless people. I have no idea where you got that from.

Your jokes aren’t funny

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 4:58 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I think he's honest, just supports the Democratic Party at every instance

Exterminating all homeless people and refusing to construct multi-floor residential buildings for rich people aren’t Democratic policies; they’re the ravings of a fictional character intended to mock urbanites.


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Pizza Friday Forever91
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Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Thu May 18, 2023 4:59 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I think he's honest, just supports the Democratic Party at every instance

Exterminating all homeless people and refusing to construct multi-floor residential buildings for rich people aren’t Democratic policies; they’re the ravings of a fictional character intended to mock urbanites.

I think that's just an average new york democrat, not unique to Lumen tbh.

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Dimetrodon Empire
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu May 18, 2023 5:01 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I never said I wanted to exterminate homeless people. I have no idea where you got that from.

Your jokes aren’t funny

He is a solidly right-wing neoliberal Democrat. He is not joking.

He even participated in the Clinton campaign if I remember correctly.

His policies are just terrible.
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 5:05 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Your jokes aren’t funny

He is a solidly right-wing neoliberal Democrat. He is not joking.

He even participated in the Clinton campaign if I remember correctly.

His policies are just terrible.


That would explain his anti-Sanders tantrums
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 18, 2023 5:05 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:He is a solidly right-wing neoliberal Democrat. He is not joking.

He even participated in the Clinton campaign if I remember correctly.

His policies are just terrible.


That would explain his anti-Sanders tantrums

Whose? San Lumen's? When did he become the topic of "American Politics"?
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 5:09 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
That would explain his anti-Sanders tantrums

Whose? San Lumen's? When did he become the topic of "American Politics"?


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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 5:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4011344-abbott-confirms-first-bus-of-migrants-has-arrived-in-colorado/

Abbott confirms first bus of migrants has arrived in Colorado

I think its also time to end sanctuary city policies. Places like New York have no room for them anymore.


You can't support sanctuary cities for LGBTQ and oppose them for illegal immigration. either you support cities defying state governments, or you don't.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Kerwa » Thu May 18, 2023 5:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4011344-abbott-confirms-first-bus-of-migrants-has-arrived-in-colorado/

Abbott confirms first bus of migrants has arrived in Colorado

I think its also time to end sanctuary city policies. Places like New York have no room for them anymore.

Remember when Ron DeSantis trafficked a bunch of asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard and the right wing press had a field day, falling over themselves to proclaim that the liberals have shown their true colours, claiming to support migrants until those migrants turn up in their neighbourhood. Well, that isn't what happened in Martha's Vineyard, in fact the locals helped in any way they could until more suitable arrangements could be made, but it is exactly what you're doing. When the likes of DeSantis or other Republicans talk about phony big city liberals, they're talking about you.


No. The Martha’s Vineyard lot are worse than Lumen. If anything they are more vomit inducing than the Hampton’s crowd. Many of them are billionaires though so it’s no wonder you go to bat for them.

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 5:35 pm

Kerwa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Remember when Ron DeSantis trafficked a bunch of asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard and the right wing press had a field day, falling over themselves to proclaim that the liberals have shown their true colours, claiming to support migrants until those migrants turn up in their neighbourhood. Well, that isn't what happened in Martha's Vineyard, in fact the locals helped in any way they could until more suitable arrangements could be made, but it is exactly what you're doing. When the likes of DeSantis or other Republicans talk about phony big city liberals, they're talking about you.


No. The Martha’s Vineyard lot are worse than Lumen. If anything they are more vomit inducing than the Hampton’s crowd. Many of them are billionaires though so it’s no wonder you go to bat for them.

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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 6:31 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I never said I wanted to exterminate homeless people. I have no idea where you got that from.

Your jokes aren’t funny


Stop trying to accuse me of things I did not say.

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Postby Ors Might » Thu May 18, 2023 6:44 pm

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Bombadil wrote:[Marjorie Taylor] Greene said: “Jamaal Bowman [was] shouting at the top of his lungs, cursing, calling me a horrible … calling me a white supremacist which I take great offense to that.

“It’s like calling a person of color the N-word which should never happen. Calling me a white supremacist is equal to that. That is wrong.”


An insult to all those white supremacist slaves shipped over from Europe..

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Postby Hispida » Thu May 18, 2023 6:53 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:I mean Algers exits his character sometimes and at least makes his attempt at satire known, I am utterly convinced however by 'reactionary conservative' he means someone like Pinochet.

You get me! Colombia had Laureano Gomez, Chile had Pinochet so why shouldn't Cuba join the club of Latin American nations that had a far-right leader?

batista existed, y'know.
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 18, 2023 6:54 pm

Hispida wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:You get me! Colombia had Laureano Gomez, Chile had Pinochet so why shouldn't Cuba join the club of Latin American nations that had a far-right leader?

batista existed, y'know.

He was a liberal. He was no different from Trudeau
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 7:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Your jokes aren’t funny


Stop trying to accuse me of things I did not say.

Just implied, gotcha. Chickening out of admitting you think all homeless people should stop existing while very obviously signaling it is so much better than just outright saying your opinions.

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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 7:10 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Hispida wrote:batista existed, y'know.

He was a liberal. He was no different from Trudeau

Pinochet wasn’t a conservative; he was the same as Hugo Chavez but without the funny speeches and with a dumb, unfashionable hat. If you’re going to be a corrupt, authoritarian military leader who impoverishes the poors and turns your country into a dystopia, do it with style.
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