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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
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41%
No
44
26%
IDK/Other
56
33%
 
Total votes : 170

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Bradfordville
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Founded: Apr 30, 2023
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Postby Bradfordville » Thu May 18, 2023 1:23 pm

Elwher wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Invade Mexico. Can’t have an illegal immigration if there’s no place for the immigration to come from


Once we win, either we annex it, which makes the Mexicans Americans automatically, or we pull back, leaving things pretty much that same as now but with a poorer Mexico making immigration even more popular.


Tfw you Invade Mexico to stop illegal (Hispanic) immigration, and it leads to you annexing the country into the US, making half of Americans Hispanics.

I wouldn't mind personally, if it was a peaceful union and not, you know, war.
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Cook-Out
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Postby Cook-Out » Thu May 18, 2023 1:41 pm

Bradfordville wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Once we win, either we annex it, which makes the Mexicans Americans automatically, or we pull back, leaving things pretty much that same as now but with a poorer Mexico making immigration even more popular.


Tfw you Invade Mexico to stop illegal (Hispanic) immigration, and it leads to you annexing the country into the US, making half of Americans Hispanics.

I wouldn't mind personally, if it was a peaceful union and not, you know, war.


Yeah I wouldn't mind if Mexico, Canada, and America formed a country called "The United States of North America" under the US Constitution

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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Thu May 18, 2023 2:11 pm

Cook-Out wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Tfw you Invade Mexico to stop illegal (Hispanic) immigration, and it leads to you annexing the country into the US, making half of Americans Hispanics.

I wouldn't mind personally, if it was a peaceful union and not, you know, war.


Yeah I wouldn't mind if Mexico, Canada, and America formed a country called "The United States of North America" under the US Constitution
Scrap this, continue to call it the United States of America, and the procede to uniting the rest of the states of America
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Hispida
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Postby Hispida » Thu May 18, 2023 2:18 pm

Kubra wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Yeah I wouldn't mind if Mexico, Canada, and America formed a country called "The United States of North America" under the US Constitution
Scrap this, continue to call it the United States of America, and the procede to uniting the rest of the states of America

and then annex it all into cuba. *nod nod*
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 2:46 pm

https://www.wpri.com/news/politics/ri-s ... c-schools/

Rhode Island Senate passes bill making lunch free at all public schools
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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 18, 2023 3:43 pm

Hispida wrote:
Kubra wrote: Scrap this, continue to call it the United States of America, and the procede to uniting the rest of the states of America

and then annex it all into cuba. *nod nod*

So long as Cuba is under the leadership of a reactionary conservative
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Celritannia
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Postby Celritannia » Thu May 18, 2023 3:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.wpri.com/news/politics/ri-senate-passes-bill-making-lunch-free-at-all-public-schools/

Rhode Island Senate passes bill making lunch free at all public schools

Excellent.

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Pizza Friday Forever91
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Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Thu May 18, 2023 3:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.wpri.com/news/politics/ri-senate-passes-bill-making-lunch-free-at-all-public-schools/

Rhode Island Senate passes bill making lunch free at all public schools

I once saw a post on twitter where some guy was under a fox news post and posted the 'Good lord!' tweet in response to this for Minnesota free lunch.

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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 3:53 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Hispida wrote:and then annex it all into cuba. *nod nod*

So long as Cuba is under the leadership of a reactionary conservative


The bits worn thin, especially cause you're this obvious with it
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Pizza Friday Forever91
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Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Thu May 18, 2023 3:55 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:So long as Cuba is under the leadership of a reactionary conservative


The bits worn thin, especially cause you're this obvious with it

I don't think he's joking.

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Zurkerx
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Founded: Jan 20, 2011
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu May 18, 2023 4:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-dakota-gop-gov-doug-burgum-likely-to-run-for-president/

North Dakota Republican Governor Doug Burgum likely to run for president


And like so many of the Republicans, he has no shot though it's rather interesting he's to join the race: it's a name we really haven't heard much.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 4:05 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... -colorado/

Abbott confirms first bus of migrants has arrived in Colorado

I think its also time to end sanctuary city policies. Places like New York have no room for them anymore.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 4:15 pm

Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
The bits worn thin, especially cause you're this obvious with it

I don't think he's joking.


Not joking no, but he attempts to shitpost much like Algers does. unlike Algers though, who actually has a solid understanding of Trumpists political tendencies, PC only has a surface understanding of neoconservatism, and his posts end up becoming the equivalent of spamming "Bush Cheney '04", or in this case, giving the game away with bad terminology. Neocons don't call themselves "reactionary conservatives" that's a pejorative we use against them.
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El Lazaro
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Founded: Oct 19, 2021
Left-wing Utopia

Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:17 pm

Bradfordville wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Once we win, either we annex it, which makes the Mexicans Americans automatically, or we pull back, leaving things pretty much that same as now but with a poorer Mexico making immigration even more popular.


Tfw you Invade Mexico to stop illegal (Hispanic) immigration, and it leads to you annexing the country into the US, making half of Americans Hispanics.

I wouldn't mind personally, if it was a peaceful union and not, you know, war.

The problem with that is, if the US was suddenly responsible for dealing with the cartels funded by druggies from our country, then drug policy screw-ups would have consequences that can’t be offloaded to foreigners.

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Pizza Friday Forever91
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Founded: Apr 07, 2023
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Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Thu May 18, 2023 4:18 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:I don't think he's joking.


Not joking no, but he attempts to shitpost much like Algers does. unlike Algers though, who actually has a solid understanding of Trumpists political tendencies, PC only has a surface understanding of neoconservatism, and his posts end up becoming the equivalent of spamming "Bush Cheney '04", or in this case, giving the game away with bad terminology. Neocons don't call themselves "reactionary conservatives" that's a pejorative we use against them.

I mean Algers exits his character sometimes and at least makes his attempt at satire known, I am utterly convinced however by 'reactionary conservative' he means someone like Pinochet.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 4:21 pm

Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Not joking no, but he attempts to shitpost much like Algers does. unlike Algers though, who actually has a solid understanding of Trumpists political tendencies, PC only has a surface understanding of neoconservatism, and his posts end up becoming the equivalent of spamming "Bush Cheney '04", or in this case, giving the game away with bad terminology. Neocons don't call themselves "reactionary conservatives" that's a pejorative we use against them.

I mean Algers exits his character sometimes and at least makes his attempt at satire known, I am utterly convinced however by 'reactionary conservative' he means someone like Pinochet.


The problem is many don't know its largely satire and his posts are more annoying than funny at this point.

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Postby Bombadil » Thu May 18, 2023 4:21 pm

[Marjorie Taylor] Greene said: “Jamaal Bowman [was] shouting at the top of his lungs, cursing, calling me a horrible … calling me a white supremacist which I take great offense to that.

“It’s like calling a person of color the N-word which should never happen. Calling me a white supremacist is equal to that. That is wrong.”


An insult to all those white supremacist slaves shipped over from Europe..

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:I mean Algers exits his character sometimes and at least makes his attempt at satire known, I am utterly convinced however by 'reactionary conservative' he means someone like Pinochet.


The problem is many don't know its largely satire and his posts are more annoying than funny at this point.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 18, 2023 4:23 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The problem is many don't know its largely satire and his posts are more annoying than funny at this point.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


I don't post satire.

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


I don't post satire.

This is exactly what Alger would say

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Pizza Friday Forever91
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Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Thu May 18, 2023 4:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


I don't post satire.

That's not what he meant and you know it, Lumen.

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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Thu May 18, 2023 4:24 pm

Bombadil wrote:[Marjorie Taylor] Greene said: “Jamaal Bowman [was] shouting at the top of his lungs, cursing, calling me a horrible … calling me a white supremacist which I take great offense to that.

“It’s like calling a person of color the N-word which should never happen. Calling me a white supremacist is equal to that. That is wrong.”


An insult to all those white supremacist slaves shipped over from Europe..

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This cracker really needs to shut her mouth
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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 18, 2023 4:24 pm

Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I don't post satire.

That's not what he meant and you know it, Lumen.

It’s precisely what I mean

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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 18, 2023 4:25 pm

Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Not joking no, but he attempts to shitpost much like Algers does. unlike Algers though, who actually has a solid understanding of Trumpists political tendencies, PC only has a surface understanding of neoconservatism, and his posts end up becoming the equivalent of spamming "Bush Cheney '04", or in this case, giving the game away with bad terminology. Neocons don't call themselves "reactionary conservatives" that's a pejorative we use against them.

I mean Algers exits his character sometimes and at least makes his attempt at satire known, I am utterly convinced however by 'reactionary conservative' he means someone like Pinochet.

You get me! Colombia had Laureano Gomez, Chile had Pinochet so why shouldn't Cuba join the club of Latin American nations that had a far-right leader?
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Postby Bombadil » Thu May 18, 2023 4:25 pm

Pizza Friday Forever91 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I don't post satire.

That's not what he meant and you know it, Lumen.


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