American Politics: Indictments Galore

[Xind]

You know what I just thought a way to make Sarah Hughes being an Olympian can be relevant. She can use it as a cudgel to beat with on anyone who disagrees with her on Transgender sport policy.

[Major-Tom]

Florida Ron DeSantis is expected to formally enter the 2024 race next week. He will be the most high-profile Republican to take on Trump, although he is lagging a bit behind the former President.

DeSantis' plan seems to be pretty clear: run further to right on certain issues on Trump. That would be on abortion, guns, immigration, healthcare, and COVID-19 Vaccination. It seems his attempt is to out trump, Trump. He hopes that will win over conservative voters and take advantage of Trump's reluctance to take an official position on key issues. But he does risk alienating independents, women, and moderates should he win the nomination.

Basically, we can hope that DeSantis and Trump damage each other at this point.

Trump has already flippflopped right past at least his explicit 2016 stances. So I don’t see how Florida Man can win the primary with this. You can’t outsell a pivot with the base behind Qanon. And that’s without being an charm desert like DeSantis.

Yeah trying to "out-Trump" Trump historically hasn't worked in primaries for House, Senate, etc etc. Plus, a lot of Trump's strength and devoted fans come from Independent voter blocs; right-leaning and culturally conservative voters who love Trump's populist message but may find DeSantis to be too bitter and hardcore-right a pill to swallow.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/s ... r-AA1bmte9 Section 230 still exists as the supreme court ruled in the two terrorism cases.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-dako ... president/

North Dakota Republican Governor Doug Burgum likely to run for president

[Major-Tom]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-dakota-gop-gov-doug-burgum-likely-to-run-for-president/

North Dakota Republican Governor Doug Burgum likely to run for president

He'll win the North Dakota vote, so, maybe 8 or 9 primary voters?

[Xind]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-dakota-gop-gov-doug-burgum-likely-to-run-for-president/

North Dakota Republican Governor Doug Burgum likely to run for president

He'll win the North Dakota vote, so, maybe 8 or 9 primary voters?

Just because he is an elected official representing that state doesn't mean they will win a presidential primary in their home state . Marco Rubio didn't win Florida Trump did.

[Major-Tom]

He'll win the North Dakota vote, so, maybe 8 or 9 primary voters?

Just because he is an elected official representing that state doesn't mean they will win a presidential primary in their home state . Marco Rubio didn't win Florida Trump did.

Well yeah, I'm being facetious. Good chance he drops out well before the ND primaries anyhow.

[Xind]

Just because he is an elected official representing that state doesn't mean they will win a presidential primary in their home state . Marco Rubio didn't win Florida Trump did.

Well yeah, I'm being facetious. Good chance he drops out well before the ND primaries anyhow.

If I remember correctly North Dakota was the last state to hold primaries in 2016.

[San Lumen]

https://www.kcrg.com/2023/05/16/waterlo ... -children/

Waterloo, Iowa bans conversion therapy.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

apparently desantis is trying to revive florida’s military force, which would be under his control. I’m sure there are only good reasons for that.

[Xind]

apparently desantis is trying to revive florida’s military force, which would be under his control. I’m sure there are only good reasons for that.

wait what Florida 's military force isn't that just the national guard?

[Bradfordville]

Florida Ron DeSantis is expected to formally enter the 2024 race next week. He will be the most high-profile Republican to take on Trump, although he is lagging a bit behind the former President.

DeSantis' plan seems to be pretty clear: run further to right on certain issues on Trump. That would be on abortion, guns, immigration, healthcare, and COVID-19 Vaccination. It seems his attempt is to out trump, Trump. He hopes that will win over conservative voters and take advantage of Trump's reluctance to take an official position on key issues. But he does risk alienating independents, women, and moderates should he win the nomination.

Basically, we can hope that DeSantis and Trump damage each other at this point.

How exactly is he supposed to run to the right of trump on immigration? By suggesting that the border be completely shut for 10 years and anyone who tries to cross will come face to face with the combined national guards of every state on the border?

[Bradfordville]

apparently desantis is trying to revive florida’s military force, which would be under his control. I’m sure there are only good reasons for that.

And there are liberals who think it would be worse to have Trump for another 4 years when compared to this guy. I know Trump is like the secular version of the devil for some folks out there but good lord people, it is possible even now for Trump to be a lesser evil when compared to someone else, especially if that someone else is Ron DeSantis.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

Both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis suck but DeSantis has the Charisma of a wooden wall.

[Bradfordville]

Both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis suck but DeSantis has the Charisma of a wooden wall.

The only good thing Trump will probably do during this entire election is tank Ron DeSantis' current campaign, and maybe destroy his future political career as well.

[Cook-Out]

Both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis suck but DeSantis has the Charisma of a wooden wall.

DeSantis is definitely better than Trump for sure. Everyone needs to be gunning for him in the primary so we don't get a repeat of 2020.

[Xind]

Florida Ron DeSantis is expected to formally enter the 2024 race next week. He will be the most high-profile Republican to take on Trump, although he is lagging a bit behind the former President.

DeSantis' plan seems to be pretty clear: run further to right on certain issues on Trump. That would be on abortion, guns, immigration, healthcare, and COVID-19 Vaccination. It seems his attempt is to out trump, Trump. He hopes that will win over conservative voters and take advantage of Trump's reluctance to take an official position on key issues. But he does risk alienating independents, women, and moderates should he win the nomination.

Basically, we can hope that DeSantis and Trump damage each other at this point.

How exactly is he supposed to run to the right of trump on immigration? By suggesting that the border be completely shut for 10 years and anyone who tries to cross will come face to face with the combined national guards of every state on the border?

He will have run to the right of him on other areas like abortion. Then there are other way to attack him by say things like your signedlegislation that gave woke companies like Disney and Budweiser massive permanent tax breaks then set time limits on tax breaks of ordinarily people while limiting the tax deductions they can make by owing a home. Why do you love woke companies and hate home owing Americans?

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

Both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis suck but DeSantis has the Charisma of a wooden wall.

DeSantis is definitely better than Trump for sure. Everyone needs to be gunning for him in the primary so we don't get a repeat of 2020.

if you live in the same reality as the DeSantis supporters on twitter sure, he is better than trump.

[Thermodolia]

Florida Ron DeSantis is expected to formally enter the 2024 race next week. He will be the most high-profile Republican to take on Trump, although he is lagging a bit behind the former President.

DeSantis' plan seems to be pretty clear: run further to right on certain issues on Trump. That would be on abortion, guns, immigration, healthcare, and COVID-19 Vaccination. It seems his attempt is to out trump, Trump. He hopes that will win over conservative voters and take advantage of Trump's reluctance to take an official position on key issues. But he does risk alienating independents, women, and moderates should he win the nomination.

Basically, we can hope that DeSantis and Trump damage each other at this point.

How exactly is he supposed to run to the right of trump on immigration? By suggesting that the border be completely shut for 10 years and anyone who tries to cross will come face to face with the combined national guards of every state on the border?

Invade Mexico. Can’t have an illegal immigration if there’s no place for the immigration to come from

[Bradfordville]

How exactly is he supposed to run to the right of trump on immigration? By suggesting that the border be completely shut for 10 years and anyone who tries to cross will come face to face with the combined national guards of every state on the border?

Invade Mexico. Can’t have an illegal immigration if there’s no place for the immigration to come from

The war in Mexico would be the type of dark comedy I'd expect of the 2020s.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

How exactly is he supposed to run to the right of trump on immigration? By suggesting that the border be completely shut for 10 years and anyone who tries to cross will come face to face with the combined national guards of every state on the border?

Invade Mexico. Can’t have an illegal immigration if there’s no place for the immigration to come from

I think that would make the problem way worse.

[Rusozak]

Both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis suck but DeSantis has the Charisma of a wooden wall.

I don't know, I've seen walls with some pretty compelling woodwork.

[Gravlen]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/supreme-court-leaves-intact-social-media-liability-shield-in-win-for-google-twitter/ar-AA1bmte9 Section 230 still exists as the supreme court ruled in the two terrorism cases.

Oh nice. A clear sign Clarence Thomas will have a spectacular summer vacation this year.

[Thermodolia]

apparently desantis is trying to revive florida’s military force, which would be under his control. I’m sure there are only good reasons for that.

wait what Florida 's military force isn't that just the national guard?

Some states do. They are called State Defense Forces and are mostly made up of veterans and other volunteers.

Legally they are considered civilians and not actually military members. The SDFs are more in line with a paramilitary than an actual military

apparently desantis is trying to revive florida’s military force, which would be under his control. I’m sure there are only good reasons for that.

It’s already been revived. Happened in 2022

Though it’s a volunteer force so not exactly a hit squad

[Ifreann]

wait what Florida 's military force isn't that just the national guard?

Some states do. They are called State Defense Forces and are mostly made up of veterans and other volunteers.

Legally they are considered civilians and not actually military members. The SDFs are more in line with a paramilitary than an actual military

apparently desantis is trying to revive florida’s military force, which would be under his control. I’m sure there are only good reasons for that.

It’s already been revived. Happened in 2022

Though it’s a volunteer force so not exactly a hit squad

The child catcher's goon squad.