American Politics: Indictments Galore

[American Legionaries]

So wait, you consider a homeless mentally ill black man getting chocked to death by a white guy, and a white community beating an innocent young black child to death in horrific ways the same as asking for accountability against the man responsible for Neely's death? Interesting. Okay.

What more accountability do you want, exactly? There was an investigation, they decided on charges, they've been filed. He will now either be convicted or walk.

I mean, he's repeatedly implied that he thinks Penny should be murdered for being a veteran...

[Ryemarch]

Also the only good vet is one who's regretted their service and spend their time advocating for leftist causes. The other good veteran...well...I don't need to say it, nor am I allowed to say it here.

I've mostly seen eye to eye with you, but wishing death on every veteran who doesn't fall to their knees, rending their shirt and begging forgiveness for the sins you presume to assign them is a bridge too far.

[Jellian Federation]

Veterans signed up to put their lives on the line,
To fight evil.

Weather you believe that or not,
That’s what they think.

Veterans, generally, are good people.

[Urkennalaid]

Also the only good vet is one who's regretted their service and spend their time advocating for leftist causes. The other good veteran...well...I don't need to say it, nor am I allowed to say it here.

I've mostly seen eye to eye with you, but wishing death on every veteran who doesn't fall to their knees, rending their shirt and begging forgiveness for the sins you presume to assign them is a bridge too far.

Not EVERY veteran. But if you heard all the little war crimes the US military has committed in Vietnam, Iraq, etc, all the lives destroyed with no accountability and the areas STILL devistated as a result is horrific. Every single one of them should have been tried at the Hague for the lives and untold destruction the US military has done.


Either way, yes I hate Penny for killing Neely. Don't see the logic in how that makes me similar to the white people who killed Emmet Till but whatever. Not responding to you Ryemarch, just the other people who compared me to them for hating Neely.

[Tarsonis]

I literally just said its political. A homeless mentally ill black man getting chocked to death by a white veteran who Republicans are defending and excusing the actions of cause of Neely's record and status as a homeless man IS A POLITICAL SUBJECT.

It's a political thing because of American history. People really forget that relative to human bistory, segregation and the KKK wasn't that long ago and were pretty popular amongst white Americans. Also the only good vet is one who's regretted their service and spend their time advocating for leftist causes. The other good veteran...well...I don't need to say it, nor am I allowed to say it here. But yes, I do not like Penny, y'know...for killing an innocent homeless black man.

Nobody is saying that the current situation isn't similar to the situation that befell poor Mr. Till. Only that you're a proper facsimile to the ones cranking little Emmett into the tree.

I will say the situation isn't similar. Penny didn't hunt Neely down in the middle of the night, with premeditated racial violence, on the mind . There was an altercation on a train, that led up to the event. There's no evidence to suggest the crime was racially motivated, Neely wasn't just minding his own business and got attacked out the blue. There's no evidence Penny even intended to kill Neely. This narrative is being inserted to the even by people with vested interest in turning Penny into a scapegoat for their political agendas.

[Urkennalaid]

Veterans signed up to put their lives on the line,
To fight evil.

Weather you believe that or not,
That’s what they think.

Veterans, generally, are good people.

Surely they are definitely all good people. Surely the US military hasn't committed massive war crimes the scale of which are shocking and horrific and continue to be documented to this day.

[American Legionaries]

Nobody is saying that the current situation isn't similar to the situation that befell poor Mr. Till. Only that you're a proper facsimile to the ones cranking little Emmett into the tree.

I will say the situation isn't similar. Penny didn't hunt Neely down in the middle of the night, with premeditated racial violence, on the mind . There was an altercation on a train, that led up to the event. There's no evidence to suggest the crime was racially motivated, Neely wasn't just minding his own business and got attacked out the blue. There's no evidence Penny even intended to kill Neely. This narrative is being inserted to the even by people with vested interest in turning Penny into a scapegoat for their political agendas.

The comparison is not that Penny is similar to the people who lynched Till, but rather that Urkennalaid is. He hears an accusation, and leaps to the conclusion of guilt and a penalty of death because he has pre-existant bigotry towards who Penny is. Just as Till's murderers heard an accusation and lept to the conclusion of guilt and a penalty of death because they had pre-existing bigotry towards who Till was.

[The Black Forrest]

Veterans signed up to put their lives on the line,
To fight evil.

Weather you believe that or not,
That’s what they think.

Veterans, generally, are good people.

Surely they are definitely all good people. Surely the US military hasn't committed massive war crimes the scale of which are shocking and horrific and continue to be documented to this day.

Isn’t that like suggesting black people are criminals because some commit crimes to this day?

The world “generally” was used.

[Urkennalaid]

Nobody is saying that the current situation isn't similar to the situation that befell poor Mr. Till. Only that you're a proper facsimile to the ones cranking little Emmett into the tree.

I will say the situation isn't similar. Penny didn't hunt Neely down in the middle of the night, with premeditated racial violence, on the mind . There was an altercation on a train, that led up to the event. There's no evidence to suggest the crime was racially motivated, Neely wasn't just minding his own business and got attacked out the blue. There's no evidence Penny even intended to kill Neely. This narrative is being inserted to the even by people with vested interest in turning Penny into a scapegoat for their political agendas.

Do you think chokeholding someone for more than a couple of minutes is justified? Like you habe to realize how easy it is to choke someone to death, especially when you knoe the technique on hoe to do it. It wasn't like he did it for 15 seconds. Also, Neely shouting that he was hungry isn't grounds to execute him.

Also, there is a political agenda for this when black men and women keep getting murdered and everyone tries to pull out excuses to justify it. Emmet Till, Rodney Kong, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, hell it took a DAY for republicans to pull up every little thing on Neely's record to justify Penny killing him. Just because you don't wanna acknowledge the political aspect of it doesn't mean it isn't true. It exists. Because America's history is embedded with brutality, racism and everything in-between.

[Urkennalaid]

Surely they are definitely all good people. Surely the US military hasn't committed massive war crimes the scale of which are shocking and horrific and continue to be documented to this day.

Isn’t that like suggesting black people are criminals because some commit crimes to this day?

The world “generally” was used.

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

[El Lazaro]

Isn’t that like suggesting black people are criminals because some commit crimes to this day?

The world “generally” was used.

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

Soldiers aren’t categorically evil people. Marxist-Leninists are.

[Urkennalaid]

I will say the situation isn't similar. Penny didn't hunt Neely down in the middle of the night, with premeditated racial violence, on the mind . There was an altercation on a train, that led up to the event. There's no evidence to suggest the crime was racially motivated, Neely wasn't just minding his own business and got attacked out the blue. There's no evidence Penny even intended to kill Neely. This narrative is being inserted to the even by people with vested interest in turning Penny into a scapegoat for their political agendas.

The comparison is not that Penny is similar to the people who lynched Till, but rather that Urkennalaid is. He hears an accusation, and leaps to the conclusion of guilt and a penalty of death because he has pre-existant bigotry towards who Penny is. Just as Till's murderers heard an accusation and lept to the conclusion of guilt and a penalty of death because they had pre-existing bigotry towards who Till was.

Comparing me to the people who killed Emmet Till, especially since I'm black is fucking disgusting. Wanting justice for Neely's death isn't the same as brutalizing an innconent young black baby simply for being black. That's fucking disgusting and goes beyond just a simple little insult. Completely gross. Fucking shameful.

Like holy fuck, that's just fucking evil man lmao.

[Arval Va]

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

Soldiers aren’t categorically evil people. Marxist-Leninists are.

The only demographic that is categorically evil is evil people.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I will say the situation isn't similar. Penny didn't hunt Neely down in the middle of the night, with premeditated racial violence, on the mind . There was an altercation on a train, that led up to the event. There's no evidence to suggest the crime was racially motivated, Neely wasn't just minding his own business and got attacked out the blue. There's no evidence Penny even intended to kill Neely. This narrative is being inserted to the even by people with vested interest in turning Penny into a scapegoat for their political agendas.

Do you think chokeholding someone for more than a couple of minutes is justified? Like you habe to realize how easy it is to choke someone to death, especially when you knoe the technique on hoe to do it. It wasn't like he did it for 15 seconds. Also, Neely shouting that he was hungry isn't grounds to execute him.

See, this right here lends more credence to the whole lynch mob thing. If you watch the longest versions of the incident available online the other man helping Penny restrain him says at least once or twice that Penny has let off the grip and is merely restraining or holding Neely and not choking him when a bystander shows concern. This is very likely why it's only second-degree manslaughter instead of any sort of murder, and depending on witness testimony could likely help Penny be deemed not guilty. But you don't care about actual justice or the facts of the case, you just hate Penny and want him to suffer.

[El Lazaro]

Soldiers aren’t categorically evil people. Marxist-Leninists are.

The only demographic that is categorically evil is evil people.

You’re evil for saying this. What about Nazi war criminals? Are they not all evil?

[The Black Forrest]

Isn’t that like suggesting black people are criminals because some commit crimes to this day?

The world “generally” was used.

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

Ohhh. Contrary for the sake of being contrary. You bore me now.

[Deblar]

Veterans signed up to put their lives on the line,
To fight evil.

Weather you believe that or not,
That’s what they think.

Veterans, generally, are good people.

Surely they are definitely all good people. Surely the US military hasn't committed massive war crimes the scale of which are shocking and horrific and continue to be documented to this day.

Yeah, the US military has done a loooot of fucked-up stuff, but that doesn't necessarily mean people who have served in the military are inherently bad people.

[Jellian Federation]

The only demographic that is categorically evil is evil people.

You’re evil for saying this. What about Nazi war criminals? Are they not all evil?

Well they are evil people.
It’s kinda like saying the definition of bread is bread.
It doesn’t move you along at all.

Nazi war criminals are clearly evil people. Therefore they are evil people.

[Urkennalaid]

Do you think chokeholding someone for more than a couple of minutes is justified? Like you habe to realize how easy it is to choke someone to death, especially when you knoe the technique on hoe to do it. It wasn't like he did it for 15 seconds. Also, Neely shouting that he was hungry isn't grounds to execute him.

See, this right here lends more credence to the whole lynch mob thing. If you watch the longest versions of the incident available online the other man helping Penny restrain him says at least once or twice that Penny has let off the grip and is merely restraining or holding Neely and not choking him when a bystander shows concern. This is very likely why it's only second-degree manslaughter instead of any sort of murder, and depending on witness testimony could likely help Penny be deemed not guilty. But you don't care about actual justice or the facts of the case, you just hate Penny and want him to suffer.

Did I personally offend you guys for shitting on Neely? Jesus christ lmao. So, are you saying Neely didn't die from the chokehold but something else?

Also, people have yet to answer whether shouting and screaming that you're hungry is justified for being held in a chokehold at all. Why did Penny feel the need to restrain Neely? What reason was there?

[Jellian Federation]

Isn’t that like suggesting black people are criminals because some commit crimes to this day?

The world “generally” was used.

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

“Insert group here” is bad because some small non representative portion of the group has done bad things!!

I think you are being inflammatory intentionally. That’s the comparison he made.

[Ryemarch]

Not EVERY veteran. But if you heard all the little war crimes the US military has committed in Vietnam, Iraq, etc, all the lives destroyed with no accountability and the areas STILL devistated as a result is horrific. Every single one of them should have been tried at the Hague for the lives and untold destruction the US military has done.

I know of the US military's war crimes and--joke in my signature notwithstanding--I'm one hundred percent in favor of prosecuting war criminals to the harshest extent, no matter what country they come from. I'm not in favor of tarring every parachute rigger, ship's navigator, and medical officer with the same brush for the crime of serving when others were doing evil.

[Arval Va]

The only demographic that is categorically evil is evil people.

You’re evil for saying this. What about Nazi war criminals? Are they not all evil?

They did evil and are therfore evil people.

[Urkennalaid]

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

Ohhh. Contrary for the sake of being contrary. You bore me now.

YOU COMPARED BEING BLACK TO BEING A SOLDIER THATS STUPID? thats not being a contraian it's a stupid comparison. Unless again you believe some people are born as a soldier and have been discriminated off the virtue of being a soldier.

[Urkennalaid]

LMAOOOOO. Do you think people are born soldiers? Do you think that soldiers were a minority slave class that were brutalized for decades? Is being a soldier a skin color that got them discriminated against? Can't believe you UNRIONICALLY compared being black to being a soldier.

“Insert group here” is bad because some small non representative portion of the group has done bad things!!

I think you are being inflammatory intentionally. That’s the comparison he made.

Not really. I just genuinely hate the imperialist military complex the US has thats done incredible harm to innocent people. As a leftist that's just always been a take I've had.

[Umeria]

“Insert group here” is bad because some small non representative portion of the group has done bad things!!

I think you are being inflammatory intentionally. That’s the comparison he made.

Not really. I just genuinely hate the imperialist military complex the US has thats done incredible harm to innocent people. As a leftist that's just always been a take I've had.

Maybe you shouldn't say things you don't believe