American Politics: Indictments Galore

[GuessTheAltAccount]

Huh

Who are you even responding to? Is this vagueposting on a mid-tier Internet forum?

This is just how GTAA operates. Someone, somewhere on the internet maybe said a thing, therefore it's a "mantra" and he'll act like we all believe it.

It's not just the fact that it is often said, but the fact that it is often left unrefuted, that gives me the impression that a lot of people agree with it. An individual leaving it unrefuted? Ok, there could be a lot of good reasons. A crowd of people all choosing to leave it unrefuted? That's when it gets a little more concerning. It's the difference between one person rolling the dice and rolling snake eyes and everyone in the casino rolling the dice all at the same time and all rolling snake eyes.

Even if I did a poll now, how am I to know popular opinion isn't "backpedaling" from that phrase on account of realizing it clashes with how Sweden defines rape?

[Urkennalaid]

One'd think that it is fairly uncontroversial the idea that djt and his followers are motivated by no ideology, only the total destruction of their imagined enemies, and would praise Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin if their cult leader and this goal required it.

Trump's a big fan of the wisdom of Leneen.

Considering how they hate communism so much, they probably wouldn't. I mean, unless they admire them in whatever misunderstood version of communism they made up in their head.

[GuessTheAltAccount]

Trump's a big fan of the wisdom of Leneen.

Considering how they hate communism so much, they probably wouldn't. I mean, unless they admire them in whatever misunderstood version of communism they made up in their head.

They supported Trump, who either accepted help from or at best made excuses for Vladimir Putin, a man waxing nostalgic about the "glory" of the Soviet Union. They no longer have a leg to stand on in claiming to be anti-communist.

[Alkmaaria]

Considering how they hate communism so much, they probably wouldn't. I mean, unless they admire them in whatever misunderstood version of communism they made up in their head.

They supported Trump, who either accepted help from or at best made excuses for Vladimir Putin, a man waxing nostalgic about the "glory" of the Soviet Union. They no longer have a leg to stand on in claiming to be anti-communist.

I think from Putin's view he is more nostalgic for the global influence of the USSR and less about communism. From what I've heard communism as an economic policy is very unpopular in Russia. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[GuessTheAltAccount]

They supported Trump, who either accepted help from or at best made excuses for Vladimir Putin, a man waxing nostalgic about the "glory" of the Soviet Union. They no longer have a leg to stand on in claiming to be anti-communist.

I think from Putin's view he is more nostalgic for the global influence of the USSR and less about communism. From what I've heard communism as an economic policy is very unpopular in Russia. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Doesn't matter. It's still worshipping the same state that Reagan condemned. To see Reagan supporters switch from Reagan to Trump tells us that it's conservatism, not communism, that belongs on the ash heap of history.

[Ifreann]

This is just how GTAA operates. Someone, somewhere on the internet maybe said a thing, therefore it's a "mantra" and he'll act like we all believe it.

It's not just the fact that it is often said, but the fact that it is often left unrefuted, that gives me the impression that a lot of people agree with it. An individual leaving it unrefuted? Ok, there could be a lot of good reasons. A crowd of people all choosing to leave it unrefuted? That's when it gets a little more concerning.

And like I keep telling you, that's an absurd way to think. It makes literally no sense. When you read something on the internet, you don't know who else read it, and you don't know what the people who read it did afterwards. And instead of just accepting that you just don't know about the thoughts and beliefs of these people, whoever they are, you seem to feel like you need to invent some kind of explanation and generalise it to all of humanity.

It's the difference between one person rolling the dice and rolling snake eyes and everyone in the casino rolling the dice all at the same time and all rolling snake eyes.

But you're not talking about everyone in a casino all playing craps, you're talking about you maybe having heard of someone somewhere rolling snake eyes, and then you assume that this happened in a casino, and there were loads of other people also playing craps, and they all rolled snake-eyes at once.

Even if I did a poll now, how am I to know popular opinion isn't "backpedaling" from that phrase on account of realizing it clashes with how Sweden defines rape?

You say this as if it justifies making up explanations for situations that you made up. Like, you don't know where you read or heard this thing about men being potential rapists. This isn't me asking you to go googling the phrase "all men are potential rapists" to try and find someone saying that, I'm saying that right now you can't identify, even to yourself, a specific instance that is anything like someone making that statement to a crowd and the crowd all choosing not to refute it and you witnessing the whole exchange and thus forming the belief that everyone thinks that all men are potential rapists. That never happened to you. You made it up. And you make it up about everything. All these things you say that we all believe, you act like you have come to a logical conclusion based on the evidence, but the evidence is just a story you're telling yourself.

[Urkennalaid]

Considering how they hate communism so much, they probably wouldn't. I mean, unless they admire them in whatever misunderstood version of communism they made up in their head.

They supported Trump, who either accepted help from or at best made excuses for Vladimir Putin, a man waxing nostalgic about the "glory" of the Soviet Union. They no longer have a leg to stand on in claiming to be anti-communist.

Putin is an oligarch who literally helped alongside Yeltsin make Russia the oligarchy it is today, to act like he's communist is laughable. He's not. He's a Russian nationalist, sure, but definitely not a communist.

[Elwher]

I think from Putin's view he is more nostalgic for the global influence of the USSR and less about communism. From what I've heard communism as an economic policy is very unpopular in Russia. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Doesn't matter. It's still worshipping the same state that Reagan condemned. To see Reagan supporters switch from Reagan to Trump tells us that it's conservatism, not communism, that belongs on the ash heap of history.

So anyone who says nice things about Germany now is worshipping the same state that Rosevelt condemned? A major change in government tends, in my opinion, to be a hard reset.

[Gravlen]

Daniel Penny will face manslaughter charges for killing Jordan Neely on the subway.

Daniel Penny, the 24-year-old Marine veteran who choked and killed a homeless man on the subway last week, will face a charge of second-degree manslaughter and is expected to appear in Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office confirmed in a statement that it planned to charge Mr. Penny in the killing of the man, Jordan Neely.

“Daniel Penny will be arrested on a charge of manslaughter in the second degree,” the statement said. “We cannot provide any additional information until he has been arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court, which we expect to take place tomorrow.”

Penny has surrendered to the authorities at the NYPD’s 5th precinct to be arrested and charged.

[Alkmaaria]

Lol. Warnock evicted a tenant from his property for 28 dollars in overdue rent. Yet preaches about helping the disadvantaged.

No need to spread lies. Seriously; you think Hershel is a pillar of integrity?

Two evictions happened. The tenants died. Standard procedure if you wish to re-let the space.

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2022/1 ... e-tenants/

"Atlanta News First spoke with a representative from Columbia Residential who said the company has not evicted anyone since 2020. Of the 12 notices/filings referenced, only two resulted in full evictions. Those were due to the tenants passing away. Columbia Residential also sent a statement"

I should have clarified that these were filed, but not carried out, evictions.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Daniel Penny will face manslaughter charges for killing Jordan Neely on the subway.

Daniel Penny, the 24-year-old Marine veteran who choked and killed a homeless man on the subway last week, will face a charge of second-degree manslaughter and is expected to appear in Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office confirmed in a statement that it planned to charge Mr. Penny in the killing of the man, Jordan Neely.

“Daniel Penny will be arrested on a charge of manslaughter in the second degree,” the statement said. “We cannot provide any additional information until he has been arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court, which we expect to take place tomorrow.”

Penny has surrendered to the authorities at the NYPD’s 5th precinct to be arrested and charged.

Makes sense. I'm not sure he'll be convicted, but this is about the only charge I could see sticking.

[Gravlen]

Daniel Penny will face manslaughter charges for killing Jordan Neely on the subway.

Daniel Penny, the 24-year-old Marine veteran who choked and killed a homeless man on the subway last week, will face a charge of second-degree manslaughter and is expected to appear in Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office confirmed in a statement that it planned to charge Mr. Penny in the killing of the man, Jordan Neely.

“Daniel Penny will be arrested on a charge of manslaughter in the second degree,” the statement said. “We cannot provide any additional information until he has been arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court, which we expect to take place tomorrow.”

Penny has surrendered to the authorities at the NYPD’s 5th precinct to be arrested and charged.

Makes sense. I'm not sure he'll be convicted, but this is about the only charge I could see sticking.

It's difficult to predict, especially as the evidence in the public domain doesn't cleary show what led up to the altercation. Whether he held the choke hold for too long, or should not have used that move at all, will probably also be topics they're going to focus on.

[Ifreann]

Daniel Penny will face manslaughter charges for killing Jordan Neely on the subway.

Daniel Penny, the 24-year-old Marine veteran who choked and killed a homeless man on the subway last week, will face a charge of second-degree manslaughter and is expected to appear in Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office confirmed in a statement that it planned to charge Mr. Penny in the killing of the man, Jordan Neely.

“Daniel Penny will be arrested on a charge of manslaughter in the second degree,” the statement said. “We cannot provide any additional information until he has been arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court, which we expect to take place tomorrow.”

Penny has surrendered to the authorities at the NYPD’s 5th precinct to be arrested and charged.

Quick poke of Google tells me that second degree manslaughter in New York is recklessly causing someone's death. As if Penny was doing nothing wrong by attacking Neely and trying to violently restrain him, he just should have been more careful about it.

[Elwher]

Makes sense. I'm not sure he'll be convicted, but this is about the only charge I could see sticking.

It's difficult to predict, especially as the evidence in the public domain doesn't cleary show what led up to the altercation. Whether he held the choke hold for too long, or should not have used that move at all, will probably also be topics they're going to focus on.

That is, after all, the purpose of a trial, to determine the facts of a case and then decide if it was a crime. Unfortunately, all too many people believe the function of a trial is to come to the same conclusion they already have without the benefit of evidence.

[Tarsonis]

Daniel Penny will face manslaughter charges for killing Jordan Neely on the subway.

Daniel Penny, the 24-year-old Marine veteran who choked and killed a homeless man on the subway last week, will face a charge of second-degree manslaughter and is expected to appear in Manhattan Criminal Court on Friday.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office confirmed in a statement that it planned to charge Mr. Penny in the killing of the man, Jordan Neely.

“Daniel Penny will be arrested on a charge of manslaughter in the second degree,” the statement said. “We cannot provide any additional information until he has been arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court, which we expect to take place tomorrow.”

Penny has surrendered to the authorities at the NYPD’s 5th precinct to be arrested and charged.

Makes sense. I'm not sure he'll be convicted, but this is about the only charge I could see sticking.

I expect this to turn into another Rittenhouse case, it practically already has.

[Urkennalaid]

Makes sense. I'm not sure he'll be convicted, but this is about the only charge I could see sticking.

I expect this to turn into another Rittenhouse case, it practically already has.

I mean, Rittenhouse's situation is more disputed by republicans because of how overall chaotic the surrounding scene was, where we have footage of him just choking Neely out. Now republicans are trying to pull up every little small thing Neely has done, as if being arrested 44 times suddenly means you should be executed on a subway for shouting. Also, being homeless is illegal in America anyways so...

[Vassenor]

I expect this to turn into another Rittenhouse case, it practically already has.

I mean, Rittenhouse's situation is more disputed by republicans because of how overall chaotic the surrounding scene was, where we have footage of him just choking Neely out. Now republicans are trying to pull up every little small thing Neely has done, as if being arrested 44 times suddenly means you should be executed on a subway for shouting. Also, being homeless is illegal in America anyways so...

Same thing they do every time something like this happens.

#NoAngel is a thing for a reason.

[Tarsonis]

I expect this to turn into another Rittenhouse case, it practically already has.

I mean, Rittenhouse's situation is more disputed by republicans because of how overall chaotic the surrounding scene was, where we have footage of him just choking Neely out. Now republicans are trying to pull up every little small thing Neely has done, as if being arrested 44 times suddenly means you should be executed on a subway for shouting. Also, being homeless is illegal in America anyways so...

You're only proving my point. You've already ascribed political implications the incident. It's not an altercation that resulted in someone's death, no it's the establishment stepping on the neck of the homeless and executing a man in broad daylight. And that's going to be your narrative going forward meanwhile, "hero vet protecting innocent passengers from violent man, shanghaied in a kangaroo court by the liberal intelligencia" will be the narrative coming from the right.


The drumhead beckons.

[Ifreann]

I mean, Rittenhouse's situation is more disputed by republicans because of how overall chaotic the surrounding scene was, where we have footage of him just choking Neely out. Now republicans are trying to pull up every little small thing Neely has done, as if being arrested 44 times suddenly means you should be executed on a subway for shouting. Also, being homeless is illegal in America anyways so...

You're only proving my point. You've already ascribed political implications the incident. It's not an altercation that resulted in someone's death, no it's the establishment stepping on the neck of the homeless and executing a man in broad daylight. And that's going to be your narrative going forward meanwhile, "hero vet protecting innocent passengers from violent man, shanghaied in a kangaroo court by the liberal intelligencia" will be the narrative coming from the right.


The drumhead beckons.

Should we be pretending that there are no political implications?

[American Legionaries]

You're only proving my point. You've already ascribed political implications the incident. It's not an altercation that resulted in someone's death, no it's the establishment stepping on the neck of the homeless and executing a man in broad daylight. And that's going to be your narrative going forward meanwhile, "hero vet protecting innocent passengers from violent man, shanghaied in a kangaroo court by the liberal intelligencia" will be the narrative coming from the right.


The drumhead beckons.

Should we be pretending that there are no political implications?

Only fabricated ones.

[Tarsonis]

You're only proving my point. You've already ascribed political implications the incident. It's not an altercation that resulted in someone's death, no it's the establishment stepping on the neck of the homeless and executing a man in broad daylight. And that's going to be your narrative going forward meanwhile, "hero vet protecting innocent passengers from violent man, shanghaied in a kangaroo court by the liberal intelligencia" will be the narrative coming from the right.


The drumhead beckons.

Should we be pretending that there are no political implications?

You've been hysterically banging the drumhead from the beginning, it's fairly obvious you will only be satisfied by Penny being disemboweled in time square.

[Ifreann]

Should we be pretending that there are no political implications?

You've been hysterically banging the drumhead from the beginning, it's fairly obvious you will only be satisfied by Penny being disemboweled in time square.

So because you're annoyed by my posts, we should pretend that this is just a thing that happened and says nothing about politics whatsoever. Cool. Good way to approach current events.

[American Legionaries]

You've been hysterically banging the drumhead from the beginning, it's fairly obvious you will only be satisfied by Penny being disemboweled in time square.

So because you're annoyed by my posts, we should pretend that this is just a thing that happened and says nothing about politics whatsoever. Cool. Good way to approach current events.

We don't pretend real things are real, that's not pretending.

[Tarsonis]

You've been hysterically banging the drumhead from the beginning, it's fairly obvious you will only be satisfied by Penny being disemboweled in time square.

So because you're annoyed by my posts, we should pretend that this is just a thing that happened and says nothing about politics whatsoever. Cool. Good way to approach current events.

That would be better than would be your desire which is to publicly lynch Penny as a scapegoat for your own political motivations. Admiral Satie was villain in that episode, not the hero

Ironically, the police are the only one handling the situation correctly.

[Ifreann]

So because you're annoyed by my posts, we should pretend that this is just a thing that happened and says nothing about politics whatsoever. Cool. Good way to approach current events.

That would be better than would be your desire which is to publicly lynch Penny as a scapegoat for your own political motivations. Admiral Satie was villain in that episode, not the hero

Ironically, the police are the only one handling the situation correctly.

Expressing an opinion about the conduct of the police? Uh oh, that sounds awfully close to a political implication.