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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

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Port Caverton
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Founded: Oct 01, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby Port Caverton » Thu May 11, 2023 7:53 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Umeria wrote:They want Trump to win the presidency. It's the only thing that can save their ratings.

Wouldn't put it past them tbh.

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Elwher
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Founded: May 24, 2012
Anarchy

Postby Elwher » Thu May 11, 2023 8:24 am

Ifreann wrote:
Elwher wrote:I am in no way anti-trans, but in almost every state of the Union, a minor cannot get a simple tattoo or piercing on their own. Major surgeries should be at least as challenging to obtain, in my opinion. Treatments that can be stopped, like blockers, are a totally different thing.

Is there any other kind of medical care that has access limited on the basis of age alone? Like, do American doctors refuse to perform appendectomies on anyone under the age of 18?


Except in cases of immediate emmenint harm, they require parental consent to do so. I would have no problem with the same being the case here.
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Elwher
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Founded: May 24, 2012
Anarchy

Postby Elwher » Thu May 11, 2023 8:29 am

Bombadil wrote:Why CNN should not be giving free airtime to Trump..

I’ll tell you why this is different. Those lies persuaded thousands of his supporters to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, violently attacking uniformed police officers and terrorizing members of Congress and their staff. I witnessed this assault firsthand as an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department, who like hundreds of MPD officers, responded to the U.S. Capitol Police Department’s calls for assistance after their officers were overrun by Trump’s mob. As a result of my efforts that day I was severely beaten, struck numerous times with a taser, and suffered a heart attack as well as a traumatic brain injury. One police officer died, and several others took their own lives in the wake of that barbaric day.

It is not just that Trump’s lies and political rhetoric sparked an uprising at our nation’s Capitol. Trump, as U.S. president, lied in an effort to defraud the American people and overturn a free and fair election in an attempt to remain in power. (See the January 6th Select Committee’s Report.) In doing so he betrayed every aspect of his oath to represent us as Americans. We no longer need to imagine what Trump is capable of. He has shown us that he is an authoritarian who will use any means at his disposal, including violence, to remain in power.

Putting him onstage, having him answer questions like a normal candidate who didn’t get people killed in the process of trying to end the democracy he’s attempting to once again run, normalizes what Trump did. It sends a message that attempting a coup is just part of the process; that accepting election results is a choice; and that there are no consequences, in the media or in politics or anywhere else, for rejecting them.


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I see your point, and there is some validity to it, I agree. However, can you have a political debate in the run-up to the election while not including the person who, depending on the poll, is either leading or in second place among the potential candidates?
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Northern Seleucia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu May 11, 2023 8:29 am

Did anyone else watch the Trump-CNN Town Hall?
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The Jamesian Republic
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Founded: Apr 28, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 11, 2023 8:30 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:Did anyone else watch the Trump-CNN Town Hall?


Yes. It was chaotic.

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Northern Seleucia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu May 11, 2023 8:36 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Did anyone else watch the Trump-CNN Town Hall?


Yes. It was chaotic.

Lol
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Founded: Jul 24, 2021
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu May 11, 2023 9:10 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Yes. It was chaotic.

Lol

Yes and President Trump was awesome like he always is.
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Page » Thu May 11, 2023 9:13 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Lol

Yes and President Trump was awesome like he always is.


Well, the man is a go-getter. Full-time con artists aren't usually able to make time between their rapes for holding town halls.
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu May 11, 2023 9:19 am

Page wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Yes and President Trump was awesome like he always is.


Well, the man is a go-getter. Full-time con artists aren't usually able to make time between their rapes for holding town halls.

From a Conservative Republican Perspective: The so called rape, so called happened about 20 years ago, and she cant even remember the year of the so called rape, she did not physically prove, but the leftist democrat jury and a known anti Trump leftist democrat Judge, found Trump guilty of basically harassing her and gave her $ 5 million dollars, ridiculous injustice.

President Trump was awesome at the Townhall like he always is.
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Alkmaaria
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Founded: Sep 09, 2021
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Alkmaaria » Thu May 11, 2023 9:22 am

Trump will make it out of this case. He always does. Unfortunately

And I'm not huffing copium. I want the man to run just about as much as Biden.
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu May 11, 2023 9:24 am

Alkmaaria wrote:Trump will make it out of this. He always does. Unfortunately

And I'm not huffing copium. I want the man to run just about as much as Biden.

and we say fortunately, because this is another one of those anti Trump Political Persecution cases.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Founded: Apr 28, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 11, 2023 9:29 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Page wrote:
Well, the man is a go-getter. Full-time con artists aren't usually able to make time between their rapes for holding town halls.

From a Conservative Republican Perspective: The so called rape, so called happened about 20 years ago, and she cant even remember the year of the so called rape, she did not physically prove, but the leftist democrat jury and a known anti Trump leftist democrat Judge, found Trump guilty of basically harassing her and gave her $ 5 million dollars, ridiculous injustice.

President Trump was awesome at the Townhall like he always is.


He is still living in denial about 2020.

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Ryemarch
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Founded: Apr 19, 2023
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Ryemarch » Thu May 11, 2023 9:30 am

Zurkerx wrote:1. Him refusing to state whether he would sign a national abortion ban. It's clear he sees it as an issue that can kill his campaign.

2. Refused to say whether he wanted Ukraine or Russia to win.

I'll never understand the widespread habit of letting interviewees simply not answer questions. Rather defeats the entire purpose. Assuming, of course, that you're after the truth, which is getting harder to find all around.
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Incelastan
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Founded: Nov 02, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Incelastan » Thu May 11, 2023 9:31 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:From a Conservative Republican Perspective: The so called rape, so called happened about 20 years ago, and she cant even remember the year of the so called rape, she did not physically prove, but the leftist democrat jury and a known anti Trump leftist democrat Judge, found Trump guilty of basically harassing her and gave her $ 5 million dollars, ridiculous injustice.

President Trump was awesome at the Townhall like he always is.


He is still living in denial about 2020.


Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 11, 2023 9:32 am

Incelastan wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
He is still living in denial about 2020.


Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.


I prefer people who aren’t living in a dream world, or currently repeating Carter’s administration.

So far those seem to be the main options.

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Shrillland
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Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Thu May 11, 2023 9:32 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:From a Conservative Republican Perspective: The so called rape, so called happened about 20 years ago, and she cant even remember the year of the so called rape, she did not physically prove, but the leftist democrat jury and a known anti Trump leftist democrat Judge, found Trump guilty of basically harassing her and gave her $ 5 million dollars, ridiculous injustice.

President Trump was awesome at the Townhall like he always is.


He is still living in denial about 2020.


Moreover, everyone who was there cheered. I saw a piece of Vox that basically discusses why that is far more important. Effectively, we, the people against Trump, the media establishment, all those election officials who certified Biden's win, we are the new November Criminals.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 11, 2023 9:33 am

Shrillland wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
He is still living in denial about 2020.


Moreover, everyone who was there cheered. I saw a piece of Vox that basically discusses why that is far more important. Effectively, we, the people against Trump, the media establishment, all those election officials who certified Biden's win, we are the new November Criminals.


November Criminals?

TIL voting against Trump is a criminal act in some circles.

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Founded: Nov 02, 2018
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Postby Incelastan » Thu May 11, 2023 9:34 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.


I prefer people who aren’t living in a dream world, or currently repeating Carter’s administration.

So far those seem to be the main options.


Both parties are dancing on the brink of catastrophe. What new calamity awaits us, only time will tell. The chasm is widening and will swallow this country and all of humanity, I fear.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 11, 2023 9:35 am

Incelastan wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I prefer people who aren’t living in a dream world, or currently repeating Carter’s administration.

So far those seem to be the main options.


Both parties are dancing on the brink of catastrophe. What new calamity awaits us, only time will tell. The chasm is widening and will swallow this country and all of humanity, I fear.


Unfortunately.

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Postby Shrillland » Thu May 11, 2023 9:35 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Moreover, everyone who was there cheered. I saw a piece of Vox that basically discusses why that is far more important. Effectively, we, the people against Trump, the media establishment, all those election officials who certified Biden's win, we are the new November Criminals.


November Criminals?

TIL voting against Trump is a criminal act in some circles.


It's the name the Nazis used to describe those who "stabbed Germany in the back" via the Armistice in 1918.
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Postby Incelastan » Thu May 11, 2023 9:36 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
Both parties are dancing on the brink of catastrophe. What new calamity awaits us, only time will tell. The chasm is widening and will swallow this country and all of humanity, I fear.


Unfortunately.


As a grandfather of two, I fear for posterity.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu May 11, 2023 9:36 am

Shrillland wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
November Criminals?

TIL voting against Trump is a criminal act in some circles.


It's the name the Nazis used to describe those who "stabbed Germany in the back" via the Armistice in 1918.


Oh God…

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Founded: Apr 07, 2023
Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Thu May 11, 2023 9:38 am

Fort Benning has been renamed to Fort Moore https://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/ro ... c7d2a.html

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Postby Shrillland » Thu May 11, 2023 9:41 am

Another state and another measure joins the Plaza, and this time it's pretty major.

Ohio: Ohio will be voting on August 8 on an amendment that would raise the threshold for approving constitutional amendments from a simple majority to a 60% majority.
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Hispida
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Founded: Jun 21, 2021
Anarchy

Postby Hispida » Thu May 11, 2023 9:44 am

Incelastan wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I prefer people who aren’t living in a dream world, or currently repeating Carter’s administration.

So far those seem to be the main options.


Both parties are dancing on the brink of catastrophe. What new calamity awaits us, only time will tell. The chasm is widening and will swallow this country and all of humanity, I fear.

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