American Politics: Fiscal Cliffhanger

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-governor-call-special-session-tennessee-discuss-gun/story?id=98775075

Republican governor to call special session in Tennessee to discuss gun reform

Gov. Bill Lee proposed keeping guns away from those deemed a risk to others.

Did anyone post the news story about the Republican Tennessee who helped expel the two black democrats who was found guilty of sexual harassment?

Speaking of Tennessee…their anti-gay Lt. Gov. McNally may or may not have been liking pictures of a twenty year old gay model on instagram. And sending fire emojis.

The only way I see any other Republican presidential candidate having a chance is if Trump ends up going to jail in 2024. The Republican Party at this point is a cult of personality dedicated to Trump.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.

Even then, that wouldn’t stop him *cough cough Eugene V. Debs cough cough*

[The Black Forrest]

Did anyone post the news story about the Republican Tennessee who helped expel the two black democrats who was found guilty of sexual harassment?

Speaking of Tennessee…their anti-gay Lt. Gov. McNally may or may not have been liking pictures of a twenty year old gay model on instagram. And sending fire emojis.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.

Even then, that wouldn’t stop him *cough cough Eugene V. Debs cough cough*

Actually it might. Trump needs the crowds.

[Jellian Federation]

Viking is a profession, not a nationality

Tell that to Skol nation

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/us/utah-senator-vandalism-transgender

Utah state senator’s home vandalized in possible retaliation for transgender bill, police say

Eh, had that coming

The whole point of our civil controlled government, our democracy, is that we make decisions on the ballot and not the battlefield.
Even if the leader is the most despicable.

If it’s so bad what they are doing, use the ballot to make their activity illegal.
Or better yet vote them out.

[San Lumen]

I don't see how vandalizing someones home is based.

*shrugs* He deserved it and he is full of shit with the talk of Utah will fight radicals forcing their view on us. Utah didn’t have any problems sending money and supporting prop 8 in California.

If someone vandalized the home of someone you like would you approve?

[Eahland]

*shrugs* He deserved it and he is full of shit with the talk of Utah will fight radicals forcing their view on us. Utah didn’t have any problems sending money and supporting prop 8 in California.

If someone vandalized the home of someone you like would you approve?

Y'know, it's possible to approve of bad things happening to bad people who do bad things, but not approve of bad things happening to good people who don't do bad things. That's not hypocrisy. It's justice.

[San Lumen]

If someone vandalized the home of someone you like would you approve?

Y'know, it's possible to approve of bad things happening to bad people who do bad things, but not approve of bad things happening to good people who don't do bad things. That's not hypocrisy. It's justice.

Therefore if you were police chief or district attorney you would refuse to prosecute crimes against people you don’t like?

[Eahland]

Y'know, it's possible to approve of bad things happening to bad people who do bad things, but not approve of bad things happening to good people who don't do bad things. That's not hypocrisy. It's justice.

Therefore if you were police chief or district attorney you would refuse to prosecute crimes against people you don’t like?

It's also possible to read a forum post without immediately leaping to setting up ridiculous role-playing scenarios where you throw straw men at people. You should try it sometime.

[Zurkerx]

Ah Texas: the State's Senate just passed a bill requiring public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments.

Just further proof that Republicans don't like Separation of Church and State, nothing new:

Senate Bill 1515, authored by state Sen. Phil King, a Republican, requires the Ten Commandments to be displayed in a “conspicuous place” in each classroom in a “size and typeface that is legible to a person with average vision from anywhere in the classroom.”

King has previously said the bill will help restore religious liberties “that were lost” and it “reminds students all across Texas of the importance of a fundamental foundation” of America.

“This Act applies beginning with the 2023-2024 school year,” the bill reads. “This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house … If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2023.”

Also Thursday, the Senate passed another bill relating to religion, one which would require schools to allow time for students and employees to pray and read the Bible on each school day. Senate Bill 1396 also passed with a 17-12 vote.

[Port Caverton]

Ah Texas: the State's Senate just passed a bill requiring public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments.

Just further proof that Republicans don't like Separation of Church and State, nothing new:

Senate Bill 1515, authored by state Sen. Phil King, a Republican, requires the Ten Commandments to be displayed in a “conspicuous place” in each classroom in a “size and typeface that is legible to a person with average vision from anywhere in the classroom.”

King has previously said the bill will help restore religious liberties “that were lost” and it “reminds students all across Texas of the importance of a fundamental foundation” of America.

“This Act applies beginning with the 2023-2024 school year,” the bill reads. “This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house … If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2023.”

Also Thursday, the Senate passed another bill relating to religion, one which would require schools to allow time for students and employees to pray and read the Bible on each school day. Senate Bill 1396 also passed with a 17-12 vote.

The GOP is run by reactionary paleocons. Not surprising.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So Texas, about that State run Mosque next to the State legislature building...
And my state run shinto shrine ofc. And the buddhists and hindus will all need temples...

[Dominionist Virginia]

Ah Texas: the State's Senate just passed a bill requiring public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments.

Just further proof that Republicans don't like Separation of Church and State, nothing new:

Senate Bill 1515, authored by state Sen. Phil King, a Republican, requires the Ten Commandments to be displayed in a “conspicuous place” in each classroom in a “size and typeface that is legible to a person with average vision from anywhere in the classroom.”

King has previously said the bill will help restore religious liberties “that were lost” and it “reminds students all across Texas of the importance of a fundamental foundation” of America.

“This Act applies beginning with the 2023-2024 school year,” the bill reads. “This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house … If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2023.”

Also Thursday, the Senate passed another bill relating to religion, one which would require schools to allow time for students and employees to pray and read the Bible on each school day. Senate Bill 1396 also passed with a 17-12 vote.

The GOP is run by reactionary paleocons. Not surprising.

As opposed to reactionary neoconservative types, like Bush and Cheney.

[Dominionist Virginia]

Did anyone post the news story about the Republican Tennessee who helped expel the two black democrats who was found guilty of sexual harassment?

Speaking of Tennessee…their anti-gay Lt. Gov. McNally may or may not have been liking pictures of a twenty year old gay model on instagram. And sending fire emojis.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.

Even then, that wouldn’t stop him *cough cough Eugene V. Debs cough cough*

Debs at least was a man of integrity who was a prisoner of conscience for opposing our entry into World War One. Trump is the racist son of another racist, and a bully and crook just like his old man.

[Valrifall]

Did anyone post the news story about the Republican Tennessee who helped expel the two black democrats who was found guilty of sexual harassment?

Speaking of Tennessee…their anti-gay Lt. Gov. McNally may or may not have been liking pictures of a twenty year old gay model on instagram. And sending fire emojis.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.

Even then, that wouldn’t stop him *cough cough Eugene V. Debs cough cough*

Well, there is a crime he can be charged with that comes with the consequence of being disallowed from holding public office; insurrection.

[Elwher]

If someone vandalized the home of someone you like would you approve?

Y'know, it's possible to approve of bad things happening to bad people who do bad things, but not approve of bad things happening to good people who don't do bad things. That's not hypocrisy. It's justice.

So, it seems you approve of vigilante justice as long as the targets are people you do not approve of.

[Ors Might]

Y'know, it's possible to approve of bad things happening to bad people who do bad things, but not approve of bad things happening to good people who don't do bad things. That's not hypocrisy. It's justice.

So, it seems you approve of vigilante justice as long as the targets are people you do not approve of.

Yes, generally people approve of punishment being inflicted on people they think deserve it as opposed to those that they think don't deserve it.

[Ifreann]

*shrugs* He deserved it and he is full of shit with the talk of Utah will fight radicals forcing their view on us. Utah didn’t have any problems sending money and supporting prop 8 in California.

If someone vandalized the home of someone you like would you approve?

If someone took the mass damper out of a skyscraper that was all affordable housing, would you approve?

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Y'know, it's possible to approve of bad things happening to bad people who do bad things, but not approve of bad things happening to good people who don't do bad things. That's not hypocrisy. It's justice.

So, it seems you approve of vigilante justice as long as the targets are people you do not approve of.

Seems like you approve of killing children as long as the government says that it's legal first.

[San Lumen]

If someone vandalized the home of someone you like would you approve?

If someone took the mass damper out of a skyscraper that was all affordable housing, would you approve?

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So, it seems you approve of vigilante justice as long as the targets are people you do not approve of.

Seems like you approve of killing children as long as the government says that it's legal first.

Thats not relevant here.

No one said that. Violence against elected officials almost never ok. That's what we have elections for.

[Ifreann]

If someone took the mass damper out of a skyscraper that was all affordable housing, would you approve?

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Seems like you approve of killing children as long as the government says that it's legal first.

Thats not relevant here.

Yes it is. You routinely go on at some length about how you're so mad about rich people and their expensive apartments that you wish their building was sabotaged in a way that would make living there uncomfortable for them. So, would you approve if that happened to people in affordable housing? Or do you just approve of bad things happening to people you don't like?

No one said that.

Seems like

Seems like

Seems like

Violence against elected officials almost never ok. That's what we have elections for.

Spray painting "FASH" on someone's garage isn't violent.

[Necroghastia]

Ah Texas: the State's Senate just passed a bill requiring public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments.

Just further proof that Republicans don't like Separation of Church and State, nothing new:

Senate Bill 1515, authored by state Sen. Phil King, a Republican, requires the Ten Commandments to be displayed in a “conspicuous place” in each classroom in a “size and typeface that is legible to a person with average vision from anywhere in the classroom.”

King has previously said the bill will help restore religious liberties “that were lost” and it “reminds students all across Texas of the importance of a fundamental foundation” of America.

“This Act applies beginning with the 2023-2024 school year,” the bill reads. “This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house … If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2023.”

Also Thursday, the Senate passed another bill relating to religion, one which would require schools to allow time for students and employees to pray and read the Bible on each school day. Senate Bill 1396 also passed with a 17-12 vote.

Roy Moore hasn't been this excited since he could go to the Gadsden Mall.

[Elwher]

Thats not relevant here.

Yes it is. You routinely go on at some length about how you're so mad about rich people and their expensive apartments that you wish their building was sabotaged in a way that would make living there uncomfortable for them. So, would you approve if that happened to people in affordable housing? Or do you just approve of bad things happening to people you don't like?

No one said that.

Seems like

Seems like

Seems like

Violence against elected officials almost never ok. That's what we have elections for.

Spray painting "FASH" on someone's garage isn't violent.

But spray painting a swastika on someone's garage is a hate crime.

[Necroghastia]

Yes it is. You routinely go on at some length about how you're so mad about rich people and their expensive apartments that you wish their building was sabotaged in a way that would make living there uncomfortable for them. So, would you approve if that happened to people in affordable housing? Or do you just approve of bad things happening to people you don't like?






Spray painting "FASH" on someone's garage isn't violent.

But spray painting a swastika on someone's garage is a hate crime.

Is it the spray painting that makes it a hate crime, or the symbols and the context where they are used?

[Ifreann]

Yes it is. You routinely go on at some length about how you're so mad about rich people and their expensive apartments that you wish their building was sabotaged in a way that would make living there uncomfortable for them. So, would you approve if that happened to people in affordable housing? Or do you just approve of bad things happening to people you don't like?






Spray painting "FASH" on someone's garage isn't violent.

But spray painting a swastika on someone's garage is a hate crime.

Yes, that's correct.

[Dominionist Virginia]

Spray paint ain't a hate crime at all, dude. It's spray paint. It is vandalism, however.

[Cannot think of a name]

Spray paint ain't a hate crime at all, dude. It's spray paint. It is vandalism, however.

This isn't as clever as you want it to be.

[Elwher]

But spray painting a swastika on someone's garage is a hate crime.

Yes, that's correct.

Why is spraypainting one garage door with a symbol expressing one's dislike of the owner acceptable but doing so to another is not?