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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
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No
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IDK/Other
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:29 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The Vikings were just redistributing wealth.

Given their tendency to settle places the Vikings were redistributing Vikings.


Viking is a profession, not a nationality
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Cannot think of a name
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:43 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Given their tendency to settle places the Vikings were redistributing Vikings.


Viking is a profession, not a nationality

There's one in every crowd...
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Fractalnavel
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Anarchy

Postby Fractalnavel » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:56 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Viking is a profession, not a nationality

There's one in every crowd...

Might be the bidet talking.

?
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:17 pm

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republi ... d=98775075

Republican governor to call special session in Tennessee to discuss gun reform

Gov. Bill Lee proposed keeping guns away from those deemed a risk to others.

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Uiiop
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Uiiop » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-governor-call-special-session-tennessee-discuss-gun/story?id=98775075

Republican governor to call special session in Tennessee to discuss gun reform

Gov. Bill Lee proposed keeping guns away from those deemed a risk to others.

I don't believe until i see the bill and it has no "People claiming Gender Dysphoria are of course crazy" clause.
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Southland
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Postby Southland » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:55 pm

Given the governor had a close friend killed by gun violence two weeks back, it may actually work this time, if only because they're now on the receiving end of their policies.
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Postby Pizza Friday Forever91 » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-governor-call-special-session-tennessee-discuss-gun/story?id=98775075

Republican governor to call special session in Tennessee to discuss gun reform

Gov. Bill Lee proposed keeping guns away from those deemed a risk to others.

Did anyone post the news story about the Republican Tennessee who helped expel the two black democrats who was found guilty of sexual harassment?

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/us/utah-senator-vandalism-transgender

Utah state senator’s home vandalized in possible retaliation for transgender bill, police say

Based.


Tarsonis wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Given their tendency to settle places the Vikings were redistributing Vikings.


Viking is a profession, not a nationality

And like baristas, once your city has one, you'll soon have dozens, then hundreds.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/us/utah-senator-vandalism-transgender

Utah state senator’s home vandalized in possible retaliation for transgender bill, police say

Based.


Tarsonis wrote:
Viking is a profession, not a nationality

And like baristas, once your city has one, you'll soon have dozens, then hundreds.


I don't see how vandalizing someones home is based.

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Deblar
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Deblar » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:32 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Given their tendency to settle places the Vikings were redistributing Vikings.


Viking is a profession, not a nationality

Tell that to Skol nation

San Lumen wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/us/utah-senator-vandalism-transgender

Utah state senator’s home vandalized in possible retaliation for transgender bill, police say

Eh, had that coming

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:37 pm

Deblar wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Viking is a profession, not a nationality

Tell that to Skol nation

San Lumen wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/22/us/utah-senator-vandalism-transgender

Utah state senator’s home vandalized in possible retaliation for transgender bill, police say

Eh, had that coming


No he didn't. I don't agree with the anti trans bill but to vandalize someone's home is a criminal act. If its ok for someone to do that to him is it ok for someone to do it to politician you like?

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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Based.



And like baristas, once your city has one, you'll soon have dozens, then hundreds.


I don't see how vandalizing someones home is based.

It's graffiti on garage doors ....very low stakes as far as vandalism goes...the who and whys is going to matter more to people.
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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Deblar wrote:Tell that to Skol nation


Eh, had that coming


No he didn't. I don't agree with the anti trans bill but to vandalize someone's home is a criminal act. If its ok for someone to do that to him is it ok for someone to do it to politician you like?

If that's all they do i don't really give a shit if someone tried that on me personally even less with someone i like. But it's not like both sides have already gone further so unless you found an magical de-escalation tactic: Who cares?
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Narland
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Founded: Apr 19, 2013
Anarchy

Postby Narland » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Viking is a profession, not a nationality
And like baristas, once your city has one, you'll soon have dozens, then hundreds.

It would be a hard drive to work when 100s of Viking baristas wielding battle axe-spresso machines and singing opera are raiding the nearby Starbucks, Caribou, and Dutch Bros.
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Rusozak
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Founded: Jun 14, 2015
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rusozak » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:04 pm

Southland wrote:Given the governor had a close friend killed by gun violence two weeks back, it may actually work this time, if only because they're now on the receiving end of their policies.


You're talking about the party that sacrificed Herman Cain to covid to own the libs.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Based.



And like baristas, once your city has one, you'll soon have dozens, then hundreds.


I don't see how vandalizing someones home is based.

Just imagine that this legislator was very rich and was living in a skyscraper in New York and imagine that the vandalism was a temporary disruption of the functioning of the mass damper. Except instead of just pushing up rents, this legislator is killing children. Now, if you think that pushing up rents is cause for some discomfort but killing children isn't, then I'm afraid your moral compass is seriously damaged and you should log off immediately and repair it.

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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:35 pm

It seems that the Republican hopefuls that aren't DeSantis or Trump are opting for the guy from Godzilla's strategy...'let them fight.'

Candidates-in-waiting have seen little reason to jump in sooner, particularly given Trump’s propensity to attack. Instead, they have been biding their time, visiting early voting states, delivering speeches and wooing donors as they assess the field. Pence, for instance, was in California this past week meeting with potential backers and will host another donor retreat for his nonprofit group in late May.

“If I was in their shoes, I would wait as long as possible,” said former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who was considered an early favorite for the Republican nomination when he ran against Trump in 2016. He remembers realizing, in those early weeks, how dramatically Trump had upended the race, dominating everything.

“There was no way around it then,” he said. “And right now, anybody who thinks they’re somehow going to go in and change that is missing the reality.”


That tracks. So far being an early front runner has been a grinder and they inevitably get blue shelled.
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:02 pm

The only way I see any other Republican presidential candidate having a chance is if Trump ends up going to jail in 2024. The Republican Party at this point is a cult of personality dedicated to Trump.

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Necroghastia
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:04 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:The only way I see any other Republican presidential candidate having a chance is if Trump ends up going to jail in 2024. The Republican Party at this point is a cult of personality dedicated to Trump.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:41 pm

https://wcti12.com/news/local/nc-lt-gov ... t-governor

North Carolina Lt. Gov. Robinson announces bid to be next governor. He has a long history of controversial statements especially about lgbt people and has also made anti semitic comments.

Robinson will likely be the Republican nominee next year.
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Volksprussia
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Postby Volksprussia » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://wcti12.com/news/local/nc-lt-gov-robinson-announced-bid-to-be-next-governor

North Carolina Lt. Gov. Robinson announces bid to be next governor. He has a long history of controversial statements especially about lgbt people and has also made anti semitic comments.

Robinson will likely be the Republican nominee next year.


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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Based.



And like baristas, once your city has one, you'll soon have dozens, then hundreds.


I don't see how vandalizing someones home is based.


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Postby Bombadil » Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:28 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The only way I see any other Republican presidential candidate having a chance is if Trump ends up going to jail in 2024. The Republican Party at this point is a cult of personality dedicated to Trump.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.


Well his sexual assault case starts this week, not that it will move his base one iota.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:48 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The only way I see any other Republican presidential candidate having a chance is if Trump ends up going to jail in 2024. The Republican Party at this point is a cult of personality dedicated to Trump.

And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.

Which isn’t gonna happen
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:And only then, if he is imprisoned for a crime that would actually stop him from running.

Which isn’t gonna happen


Sadly…..that is probably going to be the case. My cynicism has me thinking he will get a “slap on the hand” and sent on his way with a promise and probably a payout of some sort.

I am sure they will have some line of crap about it causing more problems and we need to heal and bridge the divide blah blah blah.

Basically; the American rule of two systems of justice. One for the elite and one for the rest of us.

Like I said before; if I had stole all those files. I would be locked away and you wouldn’t hear about it.
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