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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:42 am

I have been following this news story for a while I wanted to post, there are a few important issues here: North Carolina Republicans gained a veto-proof supermajority in the state House after a Charlotte-area Democrat announced Wednesday she was switching parties.

State Rep. Tricia Cotham, who won as a Democrat in her blue district last fall by nearly 20 points, said at a news conference in Raleigh that “the modern-day Democratic Party has become unrecognizable to me.”

“I am no longer a Democrat, but I remain a public servant, that is what I am called to do. The party that represents me and my principles and what is best for North Carolina is the Republican Party,” Cotham, wearing a red dress and surrounded by her new Republican colleagues, said outside the state GOP headquarters in Raleigh.

“I am a single mom of two amazing sons, a teacher, a small-business owner, a woman with strong faith, a national championship basketball coach, and a public servant. Today I add Republican to that list,” she said, noting that she had “been welcomed with open arms” by her new colleagues.

Cotham’s switch could have major implications for lawmaking in the Tar Heel State. Republicans already held a supermajority in the North Carolina Senate. Cotham’s flip gives them 72 seats in the state House – and enough votes in both chambers to override any veto from Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper.
Cotham’s plan to switch parties was first reported by Axios. CNN has reached out to Cotham about the party switch.

Cotham served in the state House as a Democrat for nearly a decade before stepping away in 2016. She ran again in 2022, winning a crowded Democratic primary and then the general election for the newly drawn House District 112 in southeastern Mecklenburg County.

At the news conference Wednesday, Cotham said that “the turning point for me was when I was criticized for using the American flag and the praying hands emoji on all my social media platforms and even on the back of different vehicles that I have.”

“I really could not believe that that was the conversations that was happening at that time, and I was deeply offended,” she said, adding that “to say that that is wrong and not to be able to show off a flag because the others hijack it for something else, why are we at this place in politics?”

North Carolina GOP Chairman Michael Whatley said in a statement Wednesday that Cotham’s announcement “continues to reflect that the Democratic Party is too radical for North Carolina.”

“The values of the Republican Party align with voters, and the People of Mecklenburg County should be proud to have her representation in Raleigh,” he said.

Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel also welcomed Cotham to the GOP, saying in a statement Wednesday, “Even in a Biden district in a purple state, Democrats are reading the writing on the wall: liberal policies are too extreme and they’re failing Americans.”

‘Political earthquake’
Democrats reacted to Cotham’s decision with anger and disappointment.

“Rep. Cotham’s votes on women’s reproductive freedom, election laws, LGBTQ rights and strong public schools will determine the direction of the state we love. It’s hard to believe she would abandon these long held principles and she should still vote the way she has always said she would vote when these issues arise, regardless of party affiliation,” Cooper said in the statement to CNN on Tuesday.

The White House also weighed in on Cotham’s switch.

“Bedrock American freedoms are at stake in votes the North Carolina legislature is taking,” spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement. “We sincerely hope that all members of the state house and state senate listen to their conscience – instead of politics – and put North Carolinians’ rights and the safety of their communities first.”

Newly elected North Carolina Democratic Party Chair Anderson Clayton called on Cotham to resign from her seat.

“Rep. Cotham’s decision to switch parties is a deceit of the highest order. It is a betrayal to the people of Mecklenburg County, with repercussions not only for the people of her district, but for the entire state of North Carolina,” Clayton said at a Wednesday news conference in Raleigh outside party headquarters with other Democrats and residents of Cotham’s district. “Reproductive freedoms are on the line. Our public schools are on the line. LGBTQ rights are on the line. Voting rights are on the line. Our future as a state is on the line.”

“This is not about political vendettas. This is about the constituents that trusted Rep. Cotham to champion their values, who are now left with little reassurance that she will do that,” Clayton added. “HD112 is a 60% Democratic district, y’all. And they did not choose to elect a Republican. They chose to elect a Democrat.”

Cameron Pruette, the chair of the LGBTQ+ Democrats of Mecklenburg County, said at the news conference, “I knew there was a problem, when we invited Tricia Cotham to the Human Rights Campaign dinner a few weeks ago, she didn’t show up. Is this a premeditated move? How long has she known? The voters deserve to know.”

US Rep. Jeff Jackson, a former state senator who represents parts of Mecklenburg County, tweeted Wednesday that Cotham’s decision represented a “political earthquake” that “will have major consequences for millions of people.”

“While we don’t know how she will vote on any given bill, dozens of bills that were essentially dead – from elections law changes to reproductive freedom to LGBTQ rights to education policy – may have just sprung back to life,” he said. “And the state budget - which controls education funding - can now be passed entirely on the basis of Republican votes.”

“There are no recall provisions in North Carolina. She will be able to serve her full two-year term, which just began in January. For that period, Republicans will now be in full control,” Jackson said.

Cotham’s campaign website, which still listed her as a Democrat as of Wednesday afternoon, touted priorities such as protecting voting rights, affordable housing, health care and equitable public schools, among other issues. Under a section entitled “Equality for All,” Cotham calls herself a “champion of LGBTQ+ rights” and states, “Right now, LGBTQ+ youth are under attack by Republican state legislatures across the country. I will stand strong against discriminatory legislation and work to pass more protections at the state level.”

Cotham ran for election last year with the endorsement of EMILY’s List, which backs female Democratic supporters of abortion rights.

Last week, North Carolina Republicans overrode Cooper’s veto to enact legislation softening permit requirements for pistol purchases. The absence of three Democrats in the state House, including Cotham, allowed Republicans to push through the override.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:06 am

Also does this love of free speech and hatred of politically motivated charges extend to the recent arrest of the head of the Florida Democratic Party for exercising the right to protest?
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:26 am

Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire: for more than two decades, Thomas has accepted luxury trips virtually every year from Dallas businessman Harlan Crow, a megadonor for the GOP, without disclosing them.

The extent and frequency of Crow’s apparent gifts to Thomas have no known precedent in the modern history of the U.S. Supreme Court.

These trips appeared nowhere on Thomas’ financial disclosures. His failure to report the flights appears to violate a law passed after Watergate that requires justices, judges, members of Congress and federal officials to disclose most gifts, two ethics law experts said. He also should have disclosed his trips on the yacht, these experts said.


There likely won't be any consequences, but it does highlight a problem here.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:32 am

Balmor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Eugene Debbs ran for president from prison in 1920 and got six percent of the vote.


Necroghastia wrote:There are very few charges that actually bar someone from office in the US. If he got got for the insurrection, yes, but on these alone no.


If there is little chance of the charges affecting his campaign or ability to stand for office and he is still the most popular Republican candidate per polling, then it seems silly when people are pushing the narrative that this is election rigging. If anything it seems to have helped fire up and inspire his base further.

*per polling by Twitter user @catturd2


Zurkerx wrote:Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire: for more than two decades, Thomas has accepted luxury trips virtually every year from Dallas businessman Harlan Crow, a megadonor for the GOP, without disclosing them.

The extent and frequency of Crow’s apparent gifts to Thomas have no known precedent in the modern history of the U.S. Supreme Court.

These trips appeared nowhere on Thomas’ financial disclosures. His failure to report the flights appears to violate a law passed after Watergate that requires justices, judges, members of Congress and federal officials to disclose most gifts, two ethics law experts said. He also should have disclosed his trips on the yacht, these experts said.


There likely won't be any consequences, but it does highlight a problem here.

Impeach Clarence Thomas, you say?

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire: for more than two decades, Thomas has accepted luxury trips virtually every year from Dallas businessman Harlan Crow, a megadonor for the GOP, without disclosing them.

The extent and frequency of Crow’s apparent gifts to Thomas have no known precedent in the modern history of the U.S. Supreme Court.

These trips appeared nowhere on Thomas’ financial disclosures. His failure to report the flights appears to violate a law passed after Watergate that requires justices, judges, members of Congress and federal officials to disclose most gifts, two ethics law experts said. He also should have disclosed his trips on the yacht, these experts said.


There likely won't be any consequences, but it does highlight a problem here.

Impeach Clarence Thomas, you say?


In an ideal world, yes. But it would never happen so...
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:59 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Impeach Clarence Thomas, you say?


In an ideal world, yes. But it would never happen so...

in an ideal world Clarence Thomas would never have been issued with a law license so...

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:01 am

Vassenor wrote:Also does this love of free speech and hatred of politically motivated charges extend to the recent arrest of the head of the Florida Democratic Party for exercising the right to protest?

Videos on social media show people chanting “shame” as officers led protestors away in handcuffs. The Tallahassee Police Department issued a statement that said protestors were told they would have to leave after sunset, but 11 people refused to go and were arrested for trespassing.

The Protestors were Protesting on the Property, if the Property authorities said leave before sunset and they stayed protesting after sunset, they were breaking the law.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:04 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also does this love of free speech and hatred of politically motivated charges extend to the recent arrest of the head of the Florida Democratic Party for exercising the right to protest?

Videos on social media show people chanting “shame” as officers led protestors away in handcuffs. The Tallahassee Police Department issued a statement that said protestors were told they would have to leave after sunset, but 11 people refused to go and were arrested for trespassing.

The Protestors were Protesting on the Property, if the Property authorities said leave before sunset and they stayed protesting after sunset, they were breaking the law.


Just like Trump was breaking the law when he misappropriated campaign funds for hush money to pay off prostitutes.

Also if you're only allowed to protest against the government when the government says it's OK to protest against the government then you have no free speech.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:14 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Videos on social media show people chanting “shame” as officers led protestors away in handcuffs. The Tallahassee Police Department issued a statement that said protestors were told they would have to leave after sunset, but 11 people refused to go and were arrested for trespassing.

The Protestors were Protesting on the Property, if the Property authorities said leave before sunset and they stayed protesting after sunset, they were breaking the law.


Just like Trump was breaking the law when he misappropriated campaign funds for hush money to pay off prostitutes. According to many lawyers and law professors including Democrats, Trump did not do anything wrong.

Also if you're only allowed to protest against the government when the government says it's OK to protest against the government then you have no free speech

Just like Trump was breaking the law when he misappropriated campaign funds for hush money to pay off prostitutes. According to many lawyers and law professors including Democrats, Trump did not do anything wrong.

Also if you're only allowed to protest against the government when the government says it's OK to protest against the government then you have no free speech. The Protestors had an x amount of time to protest peacefully on the property and they did.

I once went with a group of friends to a state park in the middle of the woods in Chicago and we stayed after hours when the park closed, barbecuing, eating hot dogs, and drinking beer, we were celebrating Jason's birthday on Friday the 13th lol :), which is his birthday, lol :) again, and the Park rangers rounded us up one by one and arrested us for staying after park hours, in our case they let us go after they rounded us up. the Park rangers did their jobs.
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Remember, nothing says Democracy like kicking your political opponents out of the legislature for opposing your agenda.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:22 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Just like Trump was breaking the law when he misappropriated campaign funds for hush money to pay off prostitutes. According to many lawyers and law professors including Democrats, Trump did not do anything wrong.

Also if you're only allowed to protest against the government when the government says it's OK to protest against the government then you have no free speech

Just like Trump was breaking the law when he misappropriated campaign funds for hush money to pay off prostitutes. According to many lawyers and law professors including Democrats, Trump did not do anything wrong.

Also if you're only allowed to protest against the government when the government says it's OK to protest against the government then you have no free speech. The Protestors had an x amount of time to protest peacefully on the property and they did.

I once went with a group of friends to a state park in the middle of the woods in Chicago and we stayed after hours when the park closed, barbecuing, eating hot dogs, and drinking beer, we were celebrating Jason's birthday on Friday the 13th lol :), which is his birthday, lol :) again, and the Park rangers rounded us up one by one and arrested us for staying after park hours, in our case they let us go after they rounded us up. the Park rangers did their jobs.


"Many people say..." Everybody drink.

And how does that make it OK to arrest people for protest in a land that claims to have a right to free speech, which includes the right to protest?
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Postby Elwher » Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:34 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I have been following this news story for a while I wanted to post, there are a few important issues here: North Carolina Republicans gained a veto-proof supermajority in the state House after a Charlotte-area Democrat announced Wednesday she was switching parties.

State Rep. Tricia Cotham, who won as a Democrat in her blue district last fall by nearly 20 points, said at a news conference in Raleigh that “the modern-day Democratic Party has become unrecognizable to me.”

“I am no longer a Democrat, but I remain a public servant, that is what I am called to do. The party that represents me and my principles and what is best for North Carolina is the Republican Party,” Cotham, wearing a red dress and surrounded by her new Republican colleagues, said outside the state GOP headquarters in Raleigh.

“I am a single mom of two amazing sons, a teacher, a small-business owner, a woman with strong faith, a national championship basketball coach, and a public servant. Today I add Republican to that list,” she said, noting that she had “been welcomed with open arms” by her new colleagues.

Cotham’s switch could have major implications for lawmaking in the Tar Heel State. Republicans already held a supermajority in the North Carolina Senate. Cotham’s flip gives them 72 seats in the state House – and enough votes in both chambers to override any veto from Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper.
Cotham’s plan to switch parties was first reported by Axios. CNN has reached out to Cotham about the party switch.

Cotham served in the state House as a Democrat for nearly a decade before stepping away in 2016. She ran again in 2022, winning a crowded Democratic primary and then the general election for the newly drawn House District 112 in southeastern Mecklenburg County.

At the news conference Wednesday, Cotham said that “the turning point for me was when I was criticized for using the American flag and the praying hands emoji on all my social media platforms and even on the back of different vehicles that I have.”

“I really could not believe that that was the conversations that was happening at that time, and I was deeply offended,” she said, adding that “to say that that is wrong and not to be able to show off a flag because the others hijack it for something else, why are we at this place in politics?”

North Carolina GOP Chairman Michael Whatley said in a statement Wednesday that Cotham’s announcement “continues to reflect that the Democratic Party is too radical for North Carolina.”

“The values of the Republican Party align with voters, and the People of Mecklenburg County should be proud to have her representation in Raleigh,” he said.

Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel also welcomed Cotham to the GOP, saying in a statement Wednesday, “Even in a Biden district in a purple state, Democrats are reading the writing on the wall: liberal policies are too extreme and they’re failing Americans.”

‘Political earthquake’
Democrats reacted to Cotham’s decision with anger and disappointment.

“Rep. Cotham’s votes on women’s reproductive freedom, election laws, LGBTQ rights and strong public schools will determine the direction of the state we love. It’s hard to believe she would abandon these long held principles and she should still vote the way she has always said she would vote when these issues arise, regardless of party affiliation,” Cooper said in the statement to CNN on Tuesday.

The White House also weighed in on Cotham’s switch.

“Bedrock American freedoms are at stake in votes the North Carolina legislature is taking,” spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement. “We sincerely hope that all members of the state house and state senate listen to their conscience – instead of politics – and put North Carolinians’ rights and the safety of their communities first.”

Newly elected North Carolina Democratic Party Chair Anderson Clayton called on Cotham to resign from her seat.

“Rep. Cotham’s decision to switch parties is a deceit of the highest order. It is a betrayal to the people of Mecklenburg County, with repercussions not only for the people of her district, but for the entire state of North Carolina,” Clayton said at a Wednesday news conference in Raleigh outside party headquarters with other Democrats and residents of Cotham’s district. “Reproductive freedoms are on the line. Our public schools are on the line. LGBTQ rights are on the line. Voting rights are on the line. Our future as a state is on the line.”

“This is not about political vendettas. This is about the constituents that trusted Rep. Cotham to champion their values, who are now left with little reassurance that she will do that,” Clayton added. “HD112 is a 60% Democratic district, y’all. And they did not choose to elect a Republican. They chose to elect a Democrat.”

Cameron Pruette, the chair of the LGBTQ+ Democrats of Mecklenburg County, said at the news conference, “I knew there was a problem, when we invited Tricia Cotham to the Human Rights Campaign dinner a few weeks ago, she didn’t show up. Is this a premeditated move? How long has she known? The voters deserve to know.”

US Rep. Jeff Jackson, a former state senator who represents parts of Mecklenburg County, tweeted Wednesday that Cotham’s decision represented a “political earthquake” that “will have major consequences for millions of people.”

“While we don’t know how she will vote on any given bill, dozens of bills that were essentially dead – from elections law changes to reproductive freedom to LGBTQ rights to education policy – may have just sprung back to life,” he said. “And the state budget - which controls education funding - can now be passed entirely on the basis of Republican votes.”

“There are no recall provisions in North Carolina. She will be able to serve her full two-year term, which just began in January. For that period, Republicans will now be in full control,” Jackson said.

Cotham’s campaign website, which still listed her as a Democrat as of Wednesday afternoon, touted priorities such as protecting voting rights, affordable housing, health care and equitable public schools, among other issues. Under a section entitled “Equality for All,” Cotham calls herself a “champion of LGBTQ+ rights” and states, “Right now, LGBTQ+ youth are under attack by Republican state legislatures across the country. I will stand strong against discriminatory legislation and work to pass more protections at the state level.”

Cotham ran for election last year with the endorsement of EMILY’s List, which backs female Democratic supporters of abortion rights.

Last week, North Carolina Republicans overrode Cooper’s veto to enact legislation softening permit requirements for pistol purchases. The absence of three Democrats in the state House, including Cotham, allowed Republicans to push through the override.

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This raises the question of whether we vote for the person or for the party. She is still the same person as she was before switching, she simply sits in a different chair and has a different letter after her name.
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Republicans in Montana are changing election rules JUST for the Senate race in hopes it benefits them (even if I agree with the system they want...but in all races, not just the one they're afraid to lose)
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:08 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Impeach Clarence Thomas, you say?


In an ideal world, yes. But it would never happen so...

That's quitter talk.

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Postby Rusozak » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:09 am

Arresting political opponents, barring opposition from votes, changing election laws to consolidate power... At what point will the GOP drop the cloak of pretending to care about democracy and let their true colors show? Some of their constituents already have...
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:14 am

Rusozak wrote:Arresting political opponents, barring opposition from votes, changing election laws to consolidate power... At what point will the GOP drop the cloak of pretending to care about democracy and let their true colors show? Some of their constituents already have...

Never. They still have to appeal to moderates.
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Postby Fractalnavel » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:22 am

Rusozak wrote:Arresting political opponents, barring opposition from votes, changing election laws to consolidate power... At what point will the GOP drop the cloak of pretending to care about democracy and let their true colors show? Some of their constituents already have...

That's some 'third world' bullshit right there.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:27 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Rusozak wrote:Arresting political opponents, barring opposition from votes, changing election laws to consolidate power... At what point will the GOP drop the cloak of pretending to care about democracy and let their true colors show? Some of their constituents already have...

Never. They still have to appeal to moderates.

Which moderates?

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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:30 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Never. They still have to appeal to moderates.

Which moderates?

Those voters that can never decide whether vote (R) or (D)
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Postby Elwher » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:56 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Which moderates?

Those voters that can never decide whether vote (R) or (D)


You mean people who find the character and policies of the individual candidates to be the deciding factor in their votes, rather than the letter after their names?
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Postby Corrian » Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:05 am

That NC Dem turned Republican is hot garbage. Basically just carpetbagged as a progressive to win. Hope she has a miserable existence.
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Postby Valrifall » Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:45 am

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Port Caverton wrote:Those voters that can never decide whether vote (R) or (D)


You mean people who find the character and policies of the individual candidates to be the deciding factor in their votes, rather than the letter after their names?


Party affiliation is useful shorthand, which is almost the reason why parties exist in the first place.

Anything refusing to acknowledge that party platforms exist for a reason is just grandstanding.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:45 am

Corrian wrote:That NC Dem turned Republican is hot garbage. Basically just carpetbagged as a progressive to win. Hope she has a miserable existence.


I mean, it's a bit harsh to go that extent (I would had worded it differently), but she is in a heavily democratic district if I recall: she'll lose there easily if that's the case.
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Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I have been following this news story for a while I wanted to post, there are a few important issues here: North Carolina Republicans gained a veto-proof supermajority in the state House after a Charlotte-area Democrat announced Wednesday she was switching parties.

State Rep. Tricia Cotham, who won as a Democrat in her blue district last fall by nearly 20 points, said at a news conference in Raleigh that “the modern-day Democratic Party has become unrecognizable to me.”

“I am no longer a Democrat, but I remain a public servant, that is what I am called to do. The party that represents me and my principles and what is best for North Carolina is the Republican Party,” Cotham, wearing a red dress and surrounded by her new Republican colleagues, said outside the state GOP headquarters in Raleigh.

“I am a single mom of two amazing sons, a teacher, a small-business owner, a woman with strong faith, a national championship basketball coach, and a public servant. Today I add Republican to that list,” she said, noting that she had “been welcomed with open arms” by her new colleagues.

Cotham’s switch could have major implications for lawmaking in the Tar Heel State. Republicans already held a supermajority in the North Carolina Senate. Cotham’s flip gives them 72 seats in the state House – and enough votes in both chambers to override any veto from Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper.
Cotham’s plan to switch parties was first reported by Axios. CNN has reached out to Cotham about the party switch.

Cotham served in the state House as a Democrat for nearly a decade before stepping away in 2016. She ran again in 2022, winning a crowded Democratic primary and then the general election for the newly drawn House District 112 in southeastern Mecklenburg County.

At the news conference Wednesday, Cotham said that “the turning point for me was when I was criticized for using the American flag and the praying hands emoji on all my social media platforms and even on the back of different vehicles that I have.”

“I really could not believe that that was the conversations that was happening at that time, and I was deeply offended,” she said, adding that “to say that that is wrong and not to be able to show off a flag because the others hijack it for something else, why are we at this place in politics?”

North Carolina GOP Chairman Michael Whatley said in a statement Wednesday that Cotham’s announcement “continues to reflect that the Democratic Party is too radical for North Carolina.”

“The values of the Republican Party align with voters, and the People of Mecklenburg County should be proud to have her representation in Raleigh,” he said.

Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel also welcomed Cotham to the GOP, saying in a statement Wednesday, “Even in a Biden district in a purple state, Democrats are reading the writing on the wall: liberal policies are too extreme and they’re failing Americans.”

‘Political earthquake’
Democrats reacted to Cotham’s decision with anger and disappointment.

“Rep. Cotham’s votes on women’s reproductive freedom, election laws, LGBTQ rights and strong public schools will determine the direction of the state we love. It’s hard to believe she would abandon these long held principles and she should still vote the way she has always said she would vote when these issues arise, regardless of party affiliation,” Cooper said in the statement to CNN on Tuesday.

The White House also weighed in on Cotham’s switch.

“Bedrock American freedoms are at stake in votes the North Carolina legislature is taking,” spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement. “We sincerely hope that all members of the state house and state senate listen to their conscience – instead of politics – and put North Carolinians’ rights and the safety of their communities first.”

Newly elected North Carolina Democratic Party Chair Anderson Clayton called on Cotham to resign from her seat.

“Rep. Cotham’s decision to switch parties is a deceit of the highest order. It is a betrayal to the people of Mecklenburg County, with repercussions not only for the people of her district, but for the entire state of North Carolina,” Clayton said at a Wednesday news conference in Raleigh outside party headquarters with other Democrats and residents of Cotham’s district. “Reproductive freedoms are on the line. Our public schools are on the line. LGBTQ rights are on the line. Voting rights are on the line. Our future as a state is on the line.”

“This is not about political vendettas. This is about the constituents that trusted Rep. Cotham to champion their values, who are now left with little reassurance that she will do that,” Clayton added. “HD112 is a 60% Democratic district, y’all. And they did not choose to elect a Republican. They chose to elect a Democrat.”

Cameron Pruette, the chair of the LGBTQ+ Democrats of Mecklenburg County, said at the news conference, “I knew there was a problem, when we invited Tricia Cotham to the Human Rights Campaign dinner a few weeks ago, she didn’t show up. Is this a premeditated move? How long has she known? The voters deserve to know.”

US Rep. Jeff Jackson, a former state senator who represents parts of Mecklenburg County, tweeted Wednesday that Cotham’s decision represented a “political earthquake” that “will have major consequences for millions of people.”

“While we don’t know how she will vote on any given bill, dozens of bills that were essentially dead – from elections law changes to reproductive freedom to LGBTQ rights to education policy – may have just sprung back to life,” he said. “And the state budget - which controls education funding - can now be passed entirely on the basis of Republican votes.”

“There are no recall provisions in North Carolina. She will be able to serve her full two-year term, which just began in January. For that period, Republicans will now be in full control,” Jackson said.

Cotham’s campaign website, which still listed her as a Democrat as of Wednesday afternoon, touted priorities such as protecting voting rights, affordable housing, health care and equitable public schools, among other issues. Under a section entitled “Equality for All,” Cotham calls herself a “champion of LGBTQ+ rights” and states, “Right now, LGBTQ+ youth are under attack by Republican state legislatures across the country. I will stand strong against discriminatory legislation and work to pass more protections at the state level.”

Cotham ran for election last year with the endorsement of EMILY’s List, which backs female Democratic supporters of abortion rights.

Last week, North Carolina Republicans overrode Cooper’s veto to enact legislation softening permit requirements for pistol purchases. The absence of three Democrats in the state House, including Cotham, allowed Republicans to push through the override.

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/05/politics ... index.html


This raises the question of whether we vote for the person or for the party. She is still the same person as she was before switching, she simply sits in a different chair and has a different letter after her name.

She's hardly the same person-- she went from being a progressive in a Dem district to suddenly being a conservative Republican.
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